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*Coola Yagami* · 11-16-2021, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Murray was crying when they put on the suits:

https://uproxx.com/movies/bill-murra...rlife-emotion/

I wonder if it's crying for nostalgia or crying for being forced to wear it for a third movie.

I don't know it was true or not, but back in the day the rumor was Murray was the hold out cause he hated doing sequels and he was only talked into GB2 cause he wanted it to end there or have them die or something final so he wouldn't have to come back.

And yeah I know there was Garfield 2, but that was years after the fact where he might have changed his stance on sequels or it could be that voice acting doesn't count for him the same way an actual live action movie would.

*IMJ* · 11-16-2021, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Murray was crying when they put on the suits:

https://uproxx.com/movies/bill-murra...rlife-emotion/

Love those guys.

Dan Akroyd has come to the Hollywood Palms in Naperville, IL a few times and to this day they air the PSA he filmed there for him before they play a movie.

I've met Ernie several times at conventions. That guy just works hard going to the public, selling autographs. He's just an easy going guy to talk to. Lot of fun to be around.

And I love the stories how Murray does crazy stuff like just shows up to his fan's birthday parties for a drink and whatnot.

Just great guys. Really wish Ramis was with them.

*Andrew NDB* · 11-16-2021, 01:06 PM

I've met Hudson briefly. Aykroyd, when I bought his horrible vodka.

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I wonder if it's crying for nostalgia or crying for being forced to wear it for a third movie.

I don't think that's what "forced" means. And also... "Zombieland."

*IMJ* · 11-16-2021, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I've met Hudson briefly. Aykroyd, when I bought his horrible vodka.

I don't think that's what "forced" means. And also... "Zombieland."

You didn't like Crystal Skull? I thought it was solid - no fumes, well distilled.

*Andrew NDB* · 11-16-2021, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by IMJ

You didn't like Crystal Skull? I thought it was solid - no fumes, well distilled.

Oh god no. It's skipping the happy buzz and going straight to the headache/hangover with that gutrot. Truly vile stuff. And on the back of the box it said Aykroyd just filters this vodka through... crystals? I don't think that would actually filter anything out, which explains a lot.

I kept the (signed) bottle until somebody stole it, keeping it full of Skyy or whatever. And that's what you're really paying the $80 for -- the bottle.

*IMJ* · 11-16-2021, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Oh god no. It's skipping the happy buzz and going straight to the headache/hangover with that gutrot. Truly vile stuff. And on the back of the box it said Aykroyd just filters this vodka through... crystals? I don't think that would actually filter anything out, which explains a lot.

I kept the (signed) bottle until somebody stole it, keeping it full of Skyy or whatever. And that's what you're really paying the $80 for -- the bottle.

Yeah I've got two empty bottles of it here.... they just chill looking... skully.

*Powder* · 11-16-2021, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Oh god no. It's skipping the happy buzz and going straight to the headache/hangover with that gutrot. Truly vile stuff. And on the back of the box it said Aykroyd just filters this vodka through... crystals? I don't think that would actually filter anything out, which explains a lot.

I kept the (signed) bottle until somebody stole it, keeping it full of Skyy or whatever. And that's what you're really paying the $80 for -- the bottle.

I liked it a lot, personally. I was doing kung fu, freestyle raps, & ate ice cream cake with my hands. No hangover.

*IMJ* · 11-16-2021, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

I liked it a lot, personally. I was doing kung fu, freestyle raps, & ate ice cream cake with my hands. No hangover.

It's a good mixer and it's smooth. Andrew's right, you are paying that premium literally for the shape of the bottle, but the booze itself lacks in fumes and right there is the first step into decent stuff.

*Andrew NDB* · 11-16-2021, 10:42 PM

Maybe he's improved it over the past 10 years or so since I bought it. That was some really wretched stuff, though. Everybody I shared it with agreed.

*IMJ* · 11-17-2021, 08:36 AM

It would be sort of charming if there was a nod to Crystal Skull in the new flick too....

*ZariusTwo* · 11-17-2021, 12:12 PM

(Leo will appreciate the last joke)

~~Leo656~~ · 11-17-2021, 07:45 PM

I'll watch it later, I have a dog lying on me.

I only read one review so far, and it was tepid, 2 out of 4. They said it aims for "sentimental and heartfelt" but then completely over-does it. And that most of the movie is just recycling jokes and music from the original movie. They said it "takes all the worst lessons from The Rise of Skywalker", whatever that means.

BUT, keep in mind the person who reviewed it said that Ghostbusters II was awful and that Chickbusters was great. SO YA KNOW... throw that review right in the trash. Just saying, that's the only review I've read so far.
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EDIT: Watched the video. Ouch. That... does sound like it will be crowd-pleasing on a first viewing but fall apart a little bit on re-watches. I get what the other critic meant with the "all the worst lessons from 'Rise of Skywalker'" crack now. It does sound like half the movie (or more) is about reminding you that you could just be watching the far-superior original movie and not this one, and the rest is schmaltz.

Doesn't sound BAD but this guy in the video, in my limited experience, is a pretty easy "lay" and it sounds like he has some serious issues with it, and they do all sound valid.

Leaning heavy into nostalgia and sentiment and "Remember when this franchise was awesome before we almost f*cking ruined it a few years ago?" was definitely the right approach after the Chickbusters disaster, but it also sounds like they pulled a "Force Awakens" and hit that Remix Shuffle button a little too hard at times.

Also, I'm not surprised that of the "New Generation" Ghostbusters, only McKenna Grace gets anything to do. She's the only one the pre-release hype even talks about in the fluff articles in the media. Everyone gushes about her, but otherwise, it's just "The 'Stranger Things' kid is in it" and "One of them is named 'Podcast' because he has a podcast, and yeah, this movie isn't very deep," and otherwise... nothing. Like the movie is seemingly Egon's granddaughter and Ant-Man trying to save the world/bring the OG Ghostbusters out of retirement, and the other kids are just THERE for most of it. Not exactly how you want to "pass the torch", but eh.

Sounds Good, but not Great, honestly. I expect to like it fine simply because it works so hard to honor the original. But it sounds like "The Force Awakens" in that it spends so much time being reverent of its superior forefather movies that it loses its own identity and in turn sort of fumbles what it was meant to do - move the story forward and hand the reigns over to a new generation of characters. TFA was well-intentioned - and I maintain that it isn't anywhere near as bad as most people say, and that it was TLJ that ruined everything - but it WAS full of holes and had its own problems.

Ah well. As long as it isn't terrible I can live with it.

*Andrew NDB* · 11-18-2021, 02:39 AM

I'm not so OK with recycling jokes but why shouldn't music be reused? Especially when bringing in Star Wars as a comparison for some reason. It'd be stranger if a lot of the music cues and pieces weren't reused. That's how these series work.

And yes. 100%, anybody singing the praises of GB 2016 while either unable to quantify why (you know, beyond just stuff like "because GB 2016 is IMPORTANT for little girls! it doesn't matter if it's terrible!") or just choosing to not, and then sh**ting on this movie in reviews has already nullified their stance, as far as I'm concerned. GB 2016 is objectively terrible and everyone has known that for a long time now. It will only be vengeful hit pieces from these people.

And yes, the accepted narrative seems to be "it's too nostalgic for the first movie!" and "oh, of course the original Ghostbusters show up! Suited up! How predictable, like a fan wank!" As if either of these things is a bad thing in a movie returning to a franchise after 30 years that seeks to find a footing. These same people would be praising it if the GB 2016 movie had been set in the same universe as GB1 and 2 and the OG Ghostbusters similarly popped in at the end for an assist.

It's just disgusting overall. Maybe if it never happened at all it wouldn't be so now, but GB 2016 was politicized then and it's politicized even more now. For these same creeps sucking from the same SJW media teet it is literally "right side of history or... wrongthink/man baby stuff? Which one?!" in regard to even being able to like this movie (and I mean this even for people being able to like it as yet sight unseen). It used to be sad but now it is infuriating. Imagine dreaming about some sort of Ghostbusters continuation back when we were in the 90s or early 2000s... and thinking one day it would be decried by people because of trendy social politics a couple decades later?

Screw these people. Ignore them as the troubled weirdos that they are.

D Piddy 1982 · 11-18-2021, 07:29 AM

Being burned by the last GB film I "think" I'll probably go see this. With some trepidation. BUT...from what I can gather in the trailers, the kids are doing the Bustin....

For me, growing up late 80's, Ghostbusting was a profession. A job. "I want to be a Ghostbuster when I grow up".

So the thing that kinda puts me off this new one is they are taking that element away. Now ANYONE can or could be a GB, as long as you have the equipment.

But would you let a 7 year come into your house and do your electrics because they have a bagful of the relevant tools?...

I do wonder about script writers in Hollywood when most of us on here can come up with much better premises for films like TMNT and GB in like 10mins...

*ZariusTwo* · 11-18-2021, 11:09 AM

I'm watching some of the fancam leaks on Youtube and I'm really impressed actually.

*Autbot_Benz* · 11-18-2021, 11:28 AM

Colliders review of the movie made me laugh because the guy who reviewed it hated Afterlife but loved the all women movie
‘Ghostbusters: Afterlife’ Has the Spirit of Modern Franchises, Not the Original Movie | Review
BY MATT GOLDBERG
PUBLISHED 21 MINUTES AGO
This is what happens when you make a movie "for the fans."

https://collider.com/ghostbusters-afterlife-review/

*Andrew NDB* · 11-18-2021, 01:36 PM

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Colliders review of the movie made me laugh because the guy who reviewed it hated Afterlife but loved the all women movie

Like I said...

~~Leo656~~ · 11-18-2021, 06:05 PM

JESUS, take a shot every time the author of that review says some variant of "This movie sucks because 'Ghostbusters' is supposed to be a COMEDY and only dummies don't understand that!" You'll be out cold in two minutes.

Can some people TRULY not see the subtle distinction between a "comedy movie" and "an action movie with jokes in it"? Because seriously, I just watched the original the day before Halloween and aside from the characters being quirky EVERYTHING in the movie is played straight.

It is funny. The original Ghostbusters is a funny movie. But I do NOT think it is "a comedy". It is an action/super-hero movie that happens to have a lot of ad-libbed jokes in it by nature of its cast. Which is NOT THE SAME THING AT ALL.

People getting hung up on "It's supposed to be a comedy, a goof, a lark, and this movie isn't funny and people who take Ghostbusters too seriously are morons" need to just not review this kind of movie. They entirely miss the point.
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I honestly do think the movie has some legit problems, though. It sure SOUNDS like it does, like only one of the Next-Gen Ghostbusters actually having any reason to be there despite the fact that these four characters are supposedly going to carry the torch going forward. And I keep seeing the appearance of Ray, Peter and Winston being described as "a cameo", which... does not bode well. It really does sound more and more like they're teased in and out and then just magically show up at the very end of the movie when all seems lost to help the kids beat Gozer. I don't think their appearance is going to be as satisfying as most people hope for, and since this is probably the last time we'll see them together in action, that's a shame.

So I definitely think there's some things people will be upset or annoyed by. But the whole "It's TOO reverent, and it's not funny enough because 'Ghostbusters' is a comedy" stuff... those people have NO f*cking idea what they're talking about.

**Jester** · 11-18-2021, 06:13 PM

Not the only person to say, "But isn't the original Ghostbusters a comedy?"
MovieBlob has the same sentiment:

~~Leo656~~ · 11-18-2021, 06:17 PM

Both "Young Guns" movies have a ton of knee-slappers in them. Y'know, in between guys getting graphically shot in the face and whatnot.

Are they in turn "comedies"? Or are they historical Western action/dramas that happen to have some quirky characters being quirky?

Jesus Christ, this entire generation has NO f*cking idea what "nuance" means. Everything gets one label, that's it. "Get in your box!" "It doesn't fit in this box!" "Well cram it in there anyway!" So stupid.

11-16-2021, 10:42 PM	#729
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11-17-2021, 08:36 AM	#730
IMJ Emperor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Midwest, U.S.A. Posts: 8,895	It would be sort of charming if there was a nod to Crystal Skull in the new flick too.... __________________ Wave 1 Collectibles Online Market Watch Blog Collection Photography

11-17-2021, 12:12 PM	#731
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11-17-2021, 07:45 PM	#732
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I'll watch it later, I have a dog lying on me. I only read one review so far, and it was tepid, 2 out of 4. They said it aims for "sentimental and heartfelt" but then completely over-does it. And that most of the movie is just recycling jokes and music from the original movie. They said it "takes all the worst lessons from The Rise of Skywalker", whatever that means. BUT, keep in mind the person who reviewed it said that Ghostbusters II was awful and that Chickbusters was great. SO YA KNOW... throw that review right in the trash. Just saying, that's the only review I've read so far. ------------------- EDIT: Watched the video. Ouch. That... does sound like it will be crowd-pleasing on a first viewing but fall apart a little bit on re-watches. I get what the other critic meant with the "all the worst lessons from 'Rise of Skywalker'" crack now. It does sound like half the movie (or more) is about reminding you that you could just be watching the far-superior original movie and not this one, and the rest is schmaltz. Doesn't sound BAD but this guy in the video, in my limited experience, is a pretty easy "lay" and it sounds like he has some serious issues with it, and they do all sound valid. Leaning heavy into nostalgia and sentiment and "Remember when this franchise was awesome before we almost fcking ruined it a few years ago?" was definitely the right approach after the Chickbusters disaster, but it also sounds like they pulled a "Force Awakens" and hit that Remix Shuffle button a little too hard at times. Also, I'm not surprised that of the "New Generation" Ghostbusters, only McKenna Grace gets anything to do. She's the only one the pre-release hype even talks about in the fluff articles in the media. Everyone gushes about her, but otherwise, it's just "The 'Stranger Things' kid is in it" and "One of them is named 'Podcast' because he has a podcast, and yeah, this movie isn't very deep," and otherwise... nothing. Like the movie is seemingly Egon's granddaughter and Ant-Man trying to save the world/bring the OG Ghostbusters out of retirement, and the other kids are just THERE for most of it. Not exactly how you want to "pass the torch", but eh. Sounds Good, but not Great, honestly. I expect to like it fine simply because it works so hard to honor the original. But it sounds like "The Force Awakens" in that it spends so much time being reverent of its superior forefather movies that it loses its own identity and in turn sort of fumbles what it was meant to do - move the story forward and hand the reigns over to a new generation of characters. TFA was well-intentioned - and I maintain that it isn't anywhere near as bad as most people say, and that it was TLJ that ruined everything - but it WAS full of holes and had its own problems. Ah well. As long as it isn't terrible I can live with it. Last edited by Leo656; 11-17-2021 at 10:44 PM.*

11-18-2021, 02:39 AM	#733
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,573	I'm not so OK with recycling jokes but why shouldn't music be reused? Especially when bringing in Star Wars as a comparison for some reason. It'd be stranger if a lot of the music cues and pieces weren't reused. That's how these series work. And yes. 100%, anybody singing the praises of GB 2016 while either unable to quantify why (you know, beyond just stuff like "because GB 2016 is IMPORTANT for little girls! it doesn't matter if it's terrible!") or just choosing to not, and then sh*ting on this movie in reviews has already nullified their stance, as far as I'm concerned. GB 2016 is objectively terrible and everyone has known that for a long time now. It will only be vengeful hit pieces from these people. And yes, the accepted narrative seems to be "it's too nostalgic for the first movie!" and "oh, of course the original Ghostbusters show up! Suited up! How predictable, like a fan wank!" As if either of these things is a bad thing in a movie returning to a franchise after 30 years that seeks to find a footing. These same people would be praising it if the GB 2016 movie had been set in the same universe as GB1 and 2 and the OG Ghostbusters similarly popped in at the end for an assist. It's just disgusting overall. Maybe if it never happened at all it wouldn't be so now, but GB 2016 was politicized then and it's politicized even more now. For these same creeps sucking from the same SJW media teet it is literally "right side of history or... wrongthink/man baby stuff? Which one?!" in regard to even being able to like this movie (and I mean this even for people being able to like it as yet sight unseen). It used to be sad but now it is infuriating. Imagine dreaming about some sort of Ghostbusters continuation back when we were in the 90s or early 2000s... and thinking one day it would be decried by people because of trendy social politics a couple decades later? Screw these people. Ignore them as the troubled weirdos that they are. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ] Last edited by Andrew NDB; 11-18-2021 at 03:18 AM.*

11-18-2021, 07:29 AM	#734
D Piddy 1982 Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 712	Being burned by the last GB film I "think" I'll probably go see this. With some trepidation. BUT...from what I can gather in the trailers, the kids are doing the Bustin.... For me, growing up late 80's, Ghostbusting was a profession. A job. "I want to be a Ghostbuster when I grow up". So the thing that kinda puts me off this new one is they are taking that element away. Now ANYONE can or could be a GB, as long as you have the equipment. But would you let a 7 year come into your house and do your electrics because they have a bagful of the relevant tools?... I do wonder about script writers in Hollywood when most of us on here can come up with much better premises for films like TMNT and GB in like 10mins... __________________ Twitter handle: @D_Piddy1982 " 'Hero Turtle' craze leads to duck deaths" BBC News 2001

11-18-2021, 11:09 AM	#735
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,501	I'm watching some of the fancam leaks on Youtube and I'm really impressed actually. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

11-18-2021, 11:28 AM	#736
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 9,193	Colliders review of the movie made me laugh because the guy who reviewed it hated Afterlife but loved the all women movie ‘Ghostbusters: Afterlife’ Has the Spirit of Modern Franchises, Not the Original Movie \| Review BY MATT GOLDBERG PUBLISHED 21 MINUTES AGO This is what happens when you make a movie "for the fans." https://collider.com/ghostbusters-afterlife-review/ __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

11-18-2021, 06:05 PM	#738
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	JESUS, take a shot every time the author of that review says some variant of "This movie sucks because 'Ghostbusters' is supposed to be a COMEDY and only dummies don't understand that!" You'll be out cold in two minutes. Can some people TRULY not see the subtle distinction between a "comedy movie" and "an action movie with jokes in it"? Because seriously, I just watched the original the day before Halloween and aside from the characters being quirky EVERYTHING in the movie is played straight. It is funny. The original Ghostbusters is a funny movie. But I do NOT think it is "a comedy". It is an action/super-hero movie that happens to have a lot of ad-libbed jokes in it by nature of its cast. Which is NOT THE SAME THING AT ALL. People getting hung up on "It's supposed to be a comedy, a goof, a lark, and this movie isn't funny and people who take Ghostbusters too seriously are morons" need to just not review this kind of movie. They entirely miss the point. ------------------ I honestly do think the movie has some legit problems, though. It sure SOUNDS like it does, like only one of the Next-Gen Ghostbusters actually having any reason to be there despite the fact that these four characters are supposedly going to carry the torch going forward. And I keep seeing the appearance of Ray, Peter and Winston being described as "a cameo", which... does not bode well. It really does sound more and more like they're teased in and out and then just magically show up at the very end of the movie when all seems lost to help the kids beat Gozer. I don't think their appearance is going to be as satisfying as most people hope for, and since this is probably the last time we'll see them together in action, that's a shame. So I definitely think there's some things people will be upset or annoyed by. But the whole "It's TOO reverent, and it's not funny enough because 'Ghostbusters' is a comedy" stuff... those people have NO f*cking idea what they're talking about.

11-18-2021, 06:13 PM	#739
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11-18-2021, 06:17 PM	#740
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Both "Young Guns" movies have a ton of knee-slappers in them. Y'know, in between guys getting graphically shot in the face and whatnot. Are they in turn "comedies"? Or are they historical Western action/dramas that happen to have some quirky characters being quirky? Jesus Christ, this entire generation has NO f*cking idea what "nuance" means. Everything gets one label, that's it. "Get in your box!" "It doesn't fit in this box!" "Well cram it in there anyway!" So stupid.