Michigan high school massacre

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

You live in a dangerous area or something?

You know, you don't until you do.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

I have *checks pockets* two firearms on my person right this moment and a shotgun sitting next to my chair.

That seems a little.... awkward interior home setup, bro.

I have a fully tactical, professional Remington gripped in Magpul and fitted with a breaching barrel, but it isn't just sitting next to me in the office, you know?

[IndigoErth]

*shrug* I could also go around wearing a life vest all the time because it might flood, even if the likelihood of it is just as small because I live up hill, but you never know, an asteroid the size of Ohio could hit the ocean, cause an unimaginable tsunami and inundate most of the continent with ocean water.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

*shrug* I could also go around wearing a life vest all the time because it might flood, even if the likelihood of it is just as small because I live up hill

As long as you had the right to get a life vest the whole time and chose not to, I would respect that decision.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

The problem is that they don't want to label anyone with mental illness... they're just special and unique and their truth is different than your truth.

Like paranoia that leads to 24/7 life vest wearing? Or... other things that sound like likewise overdoing it.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Like paranoia that leads to 24/7 life vest wearing?

That's not really the point.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

You live in a dangerous area or something?

A democrat controlled city in a democrat controlled state is dangerous enough.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by IMJ

That seems a little.... awkward interior home setup, bro.

I have a fully tactical, professional Remington gripped in Magpul and fitted with a breaching barrel, but it isn't just sitting next to me in the office, you know?

Be prepared, motto of the Boy Scouts... *shrug*.

If they're all in my room, down the hallway, they won't do me any good if someone were to kick the door down, right?

My bulletproof vest is setting on the other side of my end table too. Case I have to go into the hood.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

A democrat controlled city in a democrat controlled state is dangerous enough.

I know. You can't go five steps without getting cancelled for accidentally misgendering someone.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

As long as you had the right to get a life vest the whole time and chose not to, I would respect that decision.

No no. You wouldn't respect it, but you would live and let live.

[joe-eyeball]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Like paranoia that leads to 24/7 life vest wearing? Or... other things that sound like likewise overdoing it.

I’m glad you brought up paranoia. I assume you believe anyone that carries a firearm on their person must be paranoid that worst is going to happen at anytime or anywhere? It’s certainly possible even if unlikely. So what’s the harm in a person that has not done anything wrong from carrying a gun? How about the “paranoia” of the people who claim you’ll never need a gun to get yourself out of trouble but couldn’t I say to them that they would be equally unlikely to ever be harmed by a gun? Who’s paranoia wins out in the end? I’d say we are better off sticking with the side that has the Constitution on their side.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I know. You can't go five steps without getting cancelled for accidentally misgendering someone.

Not quite that bad here yet... but we have a city council member who basically had people threaten to kill her opponents family unless they dropped out of the running, that other person tried to fight it and was called all the -isms in the book and ended up dropping out.... And the terrorists is still holding that Office. So, sooner or later that burning down the Wendy's over a dead criminal is coming...

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

An article I saw the other day pointed out that he'd been active on YouTube as a young kid, mostly posting videos of him playing Call of Duty. They had a video linked (and later was no longer available when I looked at the article again) and though I did not watch it, the thumb nail image on it... he looked like he must have been maybe around age 8, give or take, far too young for that sort of game. The games aren't to blame, the adults who allow kids to play things far too old for them are. And allowing games with a theme based on killing when kid's brains are still developing in fundamental ways...? Yeah, not good. Again, I don't blame the games, but the exposure to it too young could certainly have potential to be one factor if it got him addicted to those topics and imagery from a young age.

The funny thing is: There was a time in the 1970's, 80's and early 90's when young children could play the most violent war video games. The graphics were less realistic, and the characters looked like in comics and cartoons. Spending the evening fighting a war in the living room provided a lot of fun.



I believe there are more serious problems to blame for violence than media. Like alcoholism, drug abuse, child abuse, dysfunctional families, divorces or politicial and religious extremism. But it is easier for a politician to just blame it on the video games.

[IndigoErth]

Even so, still a massive gap between war themed games of that era and stupid adults allowing children to play modern games that try to offer realistic simulations... >.<

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

Be prepared, motto of the Boy Scouts... *shrug*.

If they're all in my room, down the hallway, they won't do me any good if someone were to kick the door down, right?

My bulletproof vest is setting on the other side of my end table too. Case I have to go into the hood.

That is NOT what the Boy Scout motto means! It's about preparedness for life situations and skills like wilderness survival or building or fixing things, not thinking like you're in an action movie 24-7. So which MacManus brother are you, Connor or Murphy?

[Bahamut810]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

That is NOT what the Boy Scout motto means! It's about preparedness for life situations and skills like wilderness survival or building or fixing things, not thinking like you're in an action movie 24-7. So which MacManus brother are you, Connor or Murphy?

I have never been a boy scout, but do they really not consider preparing to defend yourself under the umbrella of being prepared?

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

That is NOT what the Boy Scout motto means! It's about preparedness for life situations and skills like wilderness survival or building or fixing things, not thinking like you're in an action movie 24-7. So which MacManus brother are you, Connor or Murphy?

Be prepared means for any life event. Big or small. "Reasonable" to you or otherwise. Plus they used to teach some some defense. I don't much expect anything useful out of the group these days though.

They used to teach firearm safety, first with bb guns & then with .22s. Not a d@mn thing wrong with always carrying a firearm. I also always carry a pocket knife. I also always carry a credit card for emergency use only. And my wallet & keys. Sometimes I don't carry a cell phone. I don't need to be tracked by the feds. I used to carry strike anywhere matches or a lighter too but I needed room for the pocket 380. Some people always carry mace for self protection. If you leave that stuff home & something does happen, what use it is? The day 4 young tall criminals approached me & tried to smash & grab my car, I was certainly glad to be packing. I wouldn't have been able to outrun them or fight 4 on 1 otherwise.

If you don't want to carry, I fully support you in that. Not my problem. Just don't come back crying & wanting sympathy if/when something bad happens to you that you could have prevented potentially had you had some training & been packing heat.

[The Deadman]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

The fact every time some school shooter with an obvious mental illness is taken out, the woke leftist mob crawls out of the woodwork to dogpile you if you mention the person has a mental illness with 'how dare you, don't shame people with actual mental illnesses bro'.

They refuse to paint the mentally ill in a negative light despite the fact these shooter guys definitely have a few screws loose.

No, if the shooter happens to be white, it's domestic terrorism and mental illness is no longer considered.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

If you don't want to carry, I fully support you in that. Not my problem. Just don't come back crying & wanting sympathy if/when something bad happens to you that you could have prevented potentially had you had some training & been packing heat.

Probably more relevantly stated to say "if you don't want to carry, I fully support you in that. Just don't come back and trample on my rights to carry ever."

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

Be prepared means for any life event. Big or small. "Reasonable" to you or otherwise. Plus they used to teach some some defense. I don't much expect anything useful out of the group these days though.

They used to teach firearm safety, first with bb guns & then with .22s. Not a d@mn thing wrong with always carrying a firearm. I also always carry a pocket knife. I also always carry a credit card for emergency use only. And my wallet & keys. Sometimes I don't carry a cell phone. I don't need to be tracked by the feds. I used to carry strike anywhere matches or a lighter too but I needed room for the pocket 380. Some people always carry mace for self protection. If you leave that stuff home & something does happen, what use it is? The day 4 young tall criminals approached me & tried to smash & grab my car, I was certainly glad to be packing. I wouldn't have been able to outrun them or fight 4 on 1 otherwise.

If you don't want to carry, I fully support you in that. Not my problem. Just don't come back crying & wanting sympathy if/when something bad happens to you that you could have prevented potentially had you had some training & been packing heat.

You know d@mned well what I meant. Basic firearm safety, sure, but not the kind of paranoid overreacting "packing heat" 24-7 that YOU described yourself as doing. You seem to have confused the two. So which one are you? You never answered the question. Or maybe you're Rocco? Yeah, that sounds about right.

I mean, if you want to treat life like some kind of gangland action movie where everybody is out to get you, that's your business, but it's a sad, stressful, unhealthy way to "live". I carry ONE knife and a metal bar on me in my backpack to and from work, I have a pair of sais in the bedroom, and that's pretty much it. I'd rather enjoy living than worry constantly if something bad is going to happen on the way to work or coming home- and I WALK all over town. No car to get jacked, nothing valuable enough to worry about getting robbed for, and honestly, don't care that much if someone wants to make the futile effort to try. They'd get bupkiss for their trouble. And why should I cry over anyone trying to attack me or rob my home? If they came after me, I already know what my response would be, because I've already BEEN through that- lived through an abusive step-parent with a violent temper, in fact, and you know what? I'm still here, and he's had his nuts cracked MORE than once! I can take care of myself, gun or no gun. Same with the idiot who tried to raid the register while I was working overnight at a gas station convenience store years ago. He got clobbered with a shovel handle for his efforts.