Scream 6

*Andrew NDB* · 02-03-2022, 04:22 PM

Wow. This didn't take long at all to get greenlit:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/scream-...s-this-summer/

Starts shooting this summer.

*Warhorse* · 02-06-2022, 08:28 PM

What's the point? They killed off the good characters.

*Andrew NDB* · 02-06-2022, 09:06 PM

Well, they still haven't made one of the OGs the killer yet. That remains a card unplayed.

~~Leo656~~ · 02-06-2022, 09:33 PM

Probably because no matter how people keep pushing for it it is objectively the dumbest thing ever and would irreparably jump the shark from being "lightly self-satirical" into full-blown self-parody. There's no way to present it without it seeming false with who the characters are and how they've always been portrayed as people. It would blatantly be some "We are officially out of ideas." Like how in that one Critters sequel the guy who spent the whole series trying to wipe them out was now allied with them because "Eh, that's the only thing we didn't do yet." Made no sense and was dumb.

"Gail decides to go on a killing spree so she can write another book off of it"? Dumb. Plausible in a sense, but dumb.

"Sidney randomly snaps and starts killing people because It's All Just To Much"? Dumb. That is not at all how or why people become serial killers. Her killing herself due to all her trauma instead is 1000% more likely and is a thing people who've been traumatized in such fashion actually do. They don't become copycat serial killers, that has literally never happened.

Plus, in the latter, it sounds very much like Neve would not sign up for that movie anyway. She talks a lot about how Sidney has become the "ultimate survivor" and a role model for women who are recovering from trauma, and she has said out loud that she doesn't think she would sign on for a movie where Sidney was killed because it would undermine what the character has come to mean to so many people. If she wouldn't want to do a movie where Sidney gets killed, I highly doubt she would agree to one where she becomes the murderer, either, for exactly the same reasons. She'd probably rather agree to have her killed off if it came down to one or the other.

If the only way you can milk one more movie is to do a plotline which assassinates the characters people still care about for the sake of a "shocking" twist (which would not even be shocking because, as noted, "It's the only thing they HAVEN'T done yet"), then you may as well just call it a day and quit while you're ahead.

*Andrew NDB* · 02-06-2022, 11:48 PM

Who KNOWS what would happen to the mind of someone who has narrowly survived 5 of these mass serial killer sprees.

*Wildcat* · 03-10-2022, 04:33 AM

Saw part 5 and enjoyed it but I’ve only seen 4 once and the original 3 growing up so I don’t remember much. I mostly remember the first. I don’t know how I’d compare them.

I agree making the good guys the killer would be totally out of character. Hope it does not happen.

I think I mentioned my idea to make the killer an actual ghost. Maybe too supernatural for this franchise but could be cool. I mean part of the point is self-commentary. It could move into horror tropes.

Spoiler:

On a side note the title bothers me. Just number it or use a subtitle. I get the trend of using the “clean name” but 2 movies in the same continuity have the same name now (Halloween too with its retcons).

I know most will still call it Scream 5 but for the sake of the movies themselves it’s a disservice imo.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-10-2022, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat

On a side note the title bothers me. Just number it or use a subtitle. I get the trend of using the “clean name” but 2 movies in the same continuity have the same name now (Halloween too with its retcons).

At first it bothered me. But they literally explained why it's just "Scream" in the movie and it is clever enough.

*Wildcat* · 03-11-2022, 02:05 AM

I looked it up and it’s because it’s supposed to be like a new start. The requel/pass the torch thing.

Sam

Spoiler:

qualifies as this trope but Sidney, Dewey and Gale have been in all of them so it does not feel like they were “legacy characters” the way the movie portrays them imo.

I guess it works as a self reference but a subtitle still would have been better. Pass the torch movies usually use one.

Halloween must be the worst. Ignoring all the previous stuff it’s now Halloween, Halloween...Kills and Ends. This sequence is just ridiculous.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-11-2022, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildcat

I looked it up and it’s because it’s supposed to be like a new start. The requel/pass the torch thing.

Well... sort of. But mainly it's a rub on exactly what all the other horror movies are doing now ("Halloween" "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," and so on). But in-movie and it's in on the joke.

*Wildcat* · 03-11-2022, 02:59 AM

I know. I get that. When the girl in the living room scene lists all those examples. I just wish it would have gone with a different trope for the title like using a common term (Rise, Resurrection etc...not these of course). That way it’s self referencing AND it gives proper separation.

This is better...

Spoiler:

*The Deadman* · 03-17-2022, 02:54 PM

Courteney Cox Confirms She Will Return in ‘Scream 6’!
https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/...n-in-scream-6/

*Andrew NDB* · 03-17-2022, 04:25 PM

How much you want to bet Dewey left behind some video file or something with a message that can be played during Scream 6, so Arquette can still "return"?

*neatoman* · 03-17-2022, 05:29 PM

*Andrew NDB* · 03-17-2022, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Deadman

Courteney Cox Confirms She Will Return in ‘Scream 6’!
https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/...n-in-scream-6/

*Coola Yagami* · 03-17-2022, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

https://i.ibb.co/RPBLXjt/Screenshot-...126-Chrome.jpg

Imagine waking up to that every morning.

*Wildcat* · 03-18-2022, 12:12 AM

Well if Dewey is not a spoiler anymore I will say I thought his death was stupid. I understand having one of the originals die. I mean how it happened.

He walks back to the killer alone and within their reach when he has a gun. Plus he could have shot them in the head before. It was just dumb. If he was caught off guard it would have worked.

I’m sure there’s other dumb deaths in the series that I’m not remembering but being an original hero character it should have been more creative.

I was never into Courtney Cox but I know she said she regrets plastic surgery. That pic is probably a bad example though. Even so nobody should ever get anything done to their face...ever.

I even hate when celebrities wear a ton of makeup. It’s so obvious they’re covered in it from the neck up. It’s very off putting and gross. I’m not talking about movies. I mean in public/tv appearances.

Some people look absolutely ridiculous it’s embarrassing they went on camera. That they actually think they look good all “glamorized”.

The less makeup you use the better. I love seeing celebrities that I like without makeup. Plenty of them them look so good and normal without it.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-18-2022, 12:20 AM

If one of the OGs had to die he was my last preference, but it was handled well enough. I think they could've milked a little more emotion out of Courtney Cox's character when she found out... there was a few moments there, but then it was onto the next thing. Meanwhile I'm like a big baby with tears beginning to come (not because he died but because what it must mean to her) and then... poof, rug yanked out.

*Wildcat* · 03-18-2022, 01:28 AM

Ya he was a very likable character.

Don’t know what they have planned but if it’s still going with self trope theme they could do a shared universe/crossover. What could crossover with Scream?

*Andrew NDB* · 03-18-2022, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat

Ya he was a very likable character.

Don’t know what they have planned but if it’s still going with self trope theme they could do a shared universe/crossover. What could crossover with Scream?

Well, they already did one with the View Askewniverse. As in, apparently Scream exists with all of the Jay and Silent Bob movies. Because Jay and Silent Bob appeared in Scream 3.

But honestly none. I don't see the point. It isn't like the Halloween movies or something where, "what if Jason?" or so on. If anything at all, maybe Saw? But it seems pretty late in the game for that.

~~Leo656~~ · 03-18-2022, 03:15 AM

Couldn't "I Know What You Did Last Summer" exist in the Scream universe?

I mean, that would be ghastly but I don't know if you "couldn't" for whatever reason.

02-03-2022, 04:22 PM	#1
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,557	Scream 6 Wow. This didn't take long at all to get greenlit: https://www.darkhorizons.com/scream-...s-this-summer/ Starts shooting this summer. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

02-06-2022, 09:06 PM	#3
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,557	Well, they still haven't made one of the OGs the killer yet. That remains a card unplayed. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

02-06-2022, 11:48 PM	#5
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,557	Who KNOWS what would happen to the mind of someone who has narrowly survived 5 of these mass serial killer sprees. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

03-10-2022, 04:33 AM	#6
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,516	Saw part 5 and enjoyed it but I’ve only seen 4 once and the original 3 growing up so I don’t remember much. I mostly remember the first. I don’t know how I’d compare them. I agree making the good guys the killer would be totally out of character. Hope it does not happen. I think I mentioned my idea to make the killer an actual ghost. Maybe too supernatural for this franchise but could be cool. I mean part of the point is self-commentary. It could move into horror tropes. Spoiler: I thought it was interesting how the spirit of Billy Loomis kind of helped. Did he gain remorse in the afterlife or just wanted to help his daughter? On a side note the title bothers me. Just number it or use a subtitle. I get the trend of using the “clean name” but 2 movies in the same continuity have the same name now (Halloween too with its retcons). I know most will still call it Scream 5 but for the sake of the movies themselves it’s a disservice imo. __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything.

03-11-2022, 02:05 AM	#8
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,516	I looked it up and it’s because it’s supposed to be like a new start. The requel/pass the torch thing. Sam Spoiler: being related to Billy and her boyfriend being the killer qualifies as this trope but Sidney, Dewey and Gale have been in all of them so it does not feel like they were “legacy characters” the way the movie portrays them imo. I guess it works as a self reference but a subtitle still would have been better. Pass the torch movies usually use one. Halloween must be the worst. Ignoring all the previous stuff it’s now Halloween, Halloween...Kills and Ends. This sequence is just ridiculous. __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything.

02-06-2022, 08:28 PM	#2
Warhorse Emperor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 5,544	What's the point? They killed off the good characters.

02-06-2022, 09:33 PM	#4
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Probably because no matter how people keep pushing for it it is objectively the dumbest thing ever and would irreparably jump the shark from being "lightly self-satirical" into full-blown self-parody. There's no way to present it without it seeming false with who the characters are and how they've always been portrayed as people. It would blatantly be some "We are officially out of ideas." Like how in that one Critters sequel the guy who spent the whole series trying to wipe them out was now allied with them because "Eh, that's the only thing we didn't do yet." Made no sense and was dumb. "Gail decides to go on a killing spree so she can write another book off of it"? Dumb. Plausible in a sense, but dumb. "Sidney randomly snaps and starts killing people because It's All Just To Much"? Dumb. That is not at all how or why people become serial killers. Her killing herself due to all her trauma instead is 1000% more likely and is a thing people who've been traumatized in such fashion actually do. They don't become copycat serial killers, that has literally never happened. Plus, in the latter, it sounds very much like Neve would not sign up for that movie anyway. She talks a lot about how Sidney has become the "ultimate survivor" and a role model for women who are recovering from trauma, and she has said out loud that she doesn't think she would sign on for a movie where Sidney was killed because it would undermine what the character has come to mean to so many people. If she wouldn't want to do a movie where Sidney gets killed, I highly doubt she would agree to one where she becomes the murderer, either, for exactly the same reasons. She'd probably rather agree to have her killed off if it came down to one or the other. If the only way you can milk one more movie is to do a plotline which assassinates the characters people still care about for the sake of a "shocking" twist (which would not even be shocking because, as noted, "It's the only thing they HAVEN'T done yet"), then you may as well just call it a day and quit while you're ahead.

03-11-2022, 02:59 AM	#10
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,516	I know. I get that. When the girl in the living room scene lists all those examples. I just wish it would have gone with a different trope for the title like using a common term (Rise, Resurrection etc...not these of course). That way it’s self referencing AND it gives proper separation. This is better... Spoiler: Scream: Bloodline would have been perfect. It’s a cliche term and it fits the Sam character. It’s also the Subtitle of Tremors 5 which introduced Jamie Kennedy into the series who of course was Randy Meeks in this. Double reference. __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything.

03-17-2022, 02:54 PM	#11
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03-17-2022, 04:25 PM	#12
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,557	How much you want to bet Dewey left behind some video file or something with a message that can be played during Scream 6, so Arquette can still "return"? __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

03-18-2022, 12:12 AM	#16
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,516	Well if Dewey is not a spoiler anymore I will say I thought his death was stupid. I understand having one of the originals die. I mean how it happened. He walks back to the killer alone and within their reach when he has a gun. Plus he could have shot them in the head before. It was just dumb. If he was caught off guard it would have worked. I’m sure there’s other dumb deaths in the series that I’m not remembering but being an original hero character it should have been more creative. I was never into Courtney Cox but I know she said she regrets plastic surgery. That pic is probably a bad example though. Even so nobody should ever get anything done to their face...ever. I even hate when celebrities wear a ton of makeup. It’s so obvious they’re covered in it from the neck up. It’s very off putting and gross. I’m not talking about movies. I mean in public/tv appearances. Some people look absolutely ridiculous it’s embarrassing they went on camera. That they actually think they look good all “glamorized”. The less makeup you use the better. I love seeing celebrities that I like without makeup. Plenty of them them look so good and normal without it. __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything. Last edited by Wildcat; 03-18-2022 at 12:17 AM.

03-18-2022, 12:20 AM	#17
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,557	If one of the OGs had to die he was my last preference, but it was handled well enough. I think they could've milked a little more emotion out of Courtney Cox's character when she found out... there was a few moments there, but then it was onto the next thing. Meanwhile I'm like a big baby with tears beginning to come (not because he died but because what it must mean to her) and then... poof, rug yanked out. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

03-18-2022, 01:28 AM	#18
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,516	Ya he was a very likable character. Don’t know what they have planned but if it’s still going with self trope theme they could do a shared universe/crossover. What could crossover with Scream? __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything.

03-18-2022, 03:15 AM	#20
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Couldn't "I Know What You Did Last Summer" exist in the Scream universe? I mean, that would be ghastly but I don't know if you "couldn't" for whatever reason.