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Old 04-08-2022, 04:47 PM   #561
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I used to think Affleck was the sh1t as Batman, but the honeymoon ended. All he really did was play a stoic bag of meat. His most charismatic moment was when he complimented a pair of high-heel shoes.

Snyder did all the heavy lifting. He gave him the suit, he came up with the action scenes, and he also gave him little to do in terms of character. I mean, I get it, he’s bitter, he’s vengeful, he’s defending the planet from destruction at any cost….until he realizes he’s become the very monster he hates. It’s all well and good, but Ben never made me feel anything. Again, it was stoic and frustrated. But not much else. I’m not sure the story allowed him to.

I don’t want to get carried away into script, because my point is, you’d have to convince me that someone else can’t easily fill the role of Affleck’s Batman in BvS or Justice League. So far, he’s been replaceable.

Which leaves me with two last thoughts:

1. I’m still excited to see the character in The Flash. I never said he didn’t have potential, I just haven’t seen Affleck bring anything to the role yet. Not saying he’s not capable. Maybe under a different director then.

2. I think we will see his version of Batman again, beyond The Flash. One way or another, be it HBO Max or a multiverse crossover film. He’ll be back.

Oh, and I’m not trying to piss on the guy or piss on Snyder. I like those movies enough to have watched them several times over. Just my opinion.
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Old 04-08-2022, 04:49 PM   #562
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I used to think Affleck was the sh1t as Batman, but the honeymoon ended. All he really did was play a stoic bag of meat. His most charismatic moment was when he complimented a pair of high-heel shoes.
Of course. Because he never actually got to be in a Batman movie. If they never released any Nightmare on Elm Street movies and just because everything with "Freddy vs. Jason," would you feel that you got a proper Freddy movie?

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That seems to be the revisionist case. And this was even BEFORE Discovery reared its head into things.
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Old 04-08-2022, 05:12 PM   #563
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Of course. Because he never actually got to be in a Batman movie. If they never released any Nightmare on Elm Street movies and just because everything with "Freddy vs. Jason," would you feel that you got a proper Freddy movie?



That seems to be the revisionist case. And this was even BEFORE Discovery reared its head into things.
I know you only quoted part of my post, but you did read it all, right? I thought I addressed the story aspect and how that gave Ben little to do… no?


What do you mean by revisionist case, in regards to Ben returning? I’ve been saying that, on this forum, for a while now. Maybe I’m misunderstanding.
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Old 04-08-2022, 05:35 PM   #564
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I know you only quoted part of my post, but you did read it all, right? I thought I addressed the story aspect and how that gave Ben little to do… no?
Right. But this still circles right back to him guest-starring in a movie and not getting a movie about him. But I get what you're saying... a lot of mannerisms and generic broody stuff from Affleck, etc., not enough to heap praise on. I agree. But it's still like the Leto Joker. Is Affleck a great Batman? Better than ____ Batman? I have no idea. Show me an Affleck Batman movie and we'll see. He could be.

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What do you mean by revisionist case, in regards to Ben returning? I’ve been saying that, on this forum, for a while now. Maybe I’m misunderstanding.
Oh, I just meant in regard to the Flash movie where all the sources that were spoilering that the Ben Affleck Batman was filmed as dying but then they reshot it to where he does not die.
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Old 04-14-2022, 06:25 PM   #565
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First look at Keaton actually in the batsuit

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Old 04-14-2022, 06:30 PM   #566
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First look at Keaton actually in the batsuit

For comparison purposes, here's the Batman Returns suit:



So... a believable evolution of it. I guess. I kind of think the yellow belt was pretty iconic to him, though. Do you notice the jaw/chin area is actually a good amount smaller than in Batman 89/Batman Returns? So you actually see less of his face?
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Old 04-14-2022, 06:40 PM   #567
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So... a believable evolution of it. I guess. I kind of think the yellow belt was pretty iconic to him, though. Do you notice the jaw/chin area is actually a good amount smaller than in Batman 89/Batman Returns? So you actually see less of his face?
I also wish they kept the ionic yellow belt and yes the jawline looks a bit smaller on the new suit.
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Old 04-15-2022, 04:50 AM   #568
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Besides lack of a yellow belt, I like it. Probably even more so than original design.
It looks more sleek and less clumsy. Especially gloves and boots part.

And you hear this praise extremely rare from me, when it comes to modern movies.
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Old 04-15-2022, 06:13 AM   #569
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It’s awesome because it’s iconic and it is sleek as hell.

But looking back, as good as the yellow oval looks, it’s a dumb concept. It’s sort of a dumb suit but I love it.
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Ezra arrested again for assault

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Miller was arrested early Tuesday morning after an incident at a private residence in P?hoa. Patrol officers responded to a report of an assault that occurred at a get-together in the Leilani Estates subdivision in lower Puna. According to the Hawaii Police Department, Miller allegedly became irate after being asked to leave and threw a chair, striking a 26-year-old woman on the forehead and resulting in an approximate half-inch cut. The woman refused treatment for the injury.

Police arrested Miller at 1:30 a.m. after the actor was located on the roadway during a traffic stop at the intersection of Highway 130 and Kukula Street in Kea‘au. Miller was released at 4:05 a.m. after conferring with the County Prosecutor’s Office, pending further investigation. The investigation remains active.

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Jesus, man... this guy. wtf...

They're going to be quietly dumping the movie to HBO Max at this rate.
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Old 04-19-2022, 06:32 PM   #572
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I just read about that too. Guy needs to lay off the f*cking blow.

I've read that it's very common in the gay community for guys to go on extreme drug-and-sex benders and more and more it seems like that's this guy's bag. The stuff about him having "meltdowns" and bouts of confusion on the set is very reminiscent of when the same thing was happening with Singer on the "Superman Returns" set. Come to find out years later, according to lots of the crew Singer was going out every night getting high on blow and meth and cruising clubs for hookups. Thus his "erratic" behavior during filming and post-production (post-production supposedly being where he REALLY became a mess).

This all seems like the same sh*t. Guy needs to get sober.
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Old 04-19-2022, 06:41 PM   #573
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All this stuff that Ezra is doing, causing all these problems for filming for the WB and whatnot sure make the MCU losing their **** about Shuri and the Wasp being against the vaccine look like pussy ****. Those idiots making problems out of thin air probably wish those two were doing Ezra **** instead of speaking against the vaccine.
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Why this cretin is still outside of asylum?
Are they waiting for him to kill someone, because, this is where its going.
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Old 04-19-2022, 10:24 PM   #575
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Honestly if it weren't for Michael Keaton making his return they probably would have just dumped this movie directly to HBO at this point and skip theaters. And then bury this version of the Flash.

Literally the hype of seeing Michael Keaton as Batman again is the only thing keeping this movie afloat.
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The Discovery people are not going to be amused by this one bit.
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Old 04-20-2022, 09:25 AM   #577
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Honestly if it weren't for Michael Keaton making his return they probably would have just dumped this movie directly to HBO at this point and skip theaters. And then bury this version of the Flash.

Literally the hype of seeing Michael Keaton as Batman again is the only thing keeping this movie afloat.
They are in a tight position: it is a Flash movie, so until they literally replace every single scene of his with a new actor, they have no choice, but to release it "as is". You can't just recut movie about Flash into a movie about Flash, but without Flash.

On the other hand Ezra is the liability and a source of constant disturbance and hair away from getting himself a nice prison sentence or a time in a rehab. It is unlikely his partnership with DC will continue either way. After all, they've already dropped most of OG Justice League cast, so what's one more?

All in all, DCCU is as usual in a pile of trash.
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All in all, DCCU is as usual in a pile of trash.
They need to just end the DCEU with this movie, and wash their hands of it. Sorry, Snyderverse/DCEU fans.

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All this stuff that Ezra is doing, causing all these problems for filming for the WB and whatnot sure make the MCU losing their **** about Shuri and the Wasp being against the vaccine look like pussy ****. Those idiots making problems out of thin air probably wish those two were doing Ezra **** instead of speaking against the vaccine.
Maybe it's just me, but I felt the fandom and studios made more of a bigger deal out of Wright and Lilly's vaccine hesitancy instead of Miller's assaults. Some people are outright defending Miller on social media, whereas barely anyone stepped up for those actresses.
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Old 04-20-2022, 09:53 AM   #579
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Honestly if it weren't for Michael Keaton making his return they probably would have just dumped this movie directly to HBO at this point and skip theaters. And then bury this version of the Flash.

Literally the hype of seeing Michael Keaton as Batman again is the only thing keeping this movie afloat.
This is exactly how I feel too. I was originally excited about the Flashpoint flick, but after all of the things I've heard about the woke $#!( direction of the movie, now my only remaining interest in it is seeing Keaton as Batman.

More and more I doubt this flick will be something I pay to see.
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They need to just end the DCEU with this movie, and wash their hands of it. Sorry, Snyderverse/DCEU fans.
I agree with that: DCCU was derailed from the start and now it is not even worthy to be called a shadow of MCU, but shards of a shadow.

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Maybe it's just me, but I felt the fandom and studios made more of a bigger deal out of Wright and Lilly's vaccine hesitancy instead of Miller's assaults. Some people are outright defending Miller on social media, whereas barely anyone stepped up for those actresses.
It should not have been an issue at all.
They made out of personal issues a political fueled drama, because, somehow vaccination had ended up being a major political issue, which it should not had been in the first place.
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