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That is pretty accurate. "Shards of a shadow," yeah. A dissipating shadow.
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I really think the healthiest move, right now, is to just move forward with a sequel to every success they've had in the last few years. Build those separate worlds, which are proven bets, and let them come together in some type of "crisis-event" later on. With all this multiverse stuff, you can sort of "have your cake and eat it too."
I'm just thinking from a business perspective in this instance. The Batman 2, Joker 2, Man of Steel 2 (without Snyder, because I think that's what general audiences want). Then hope Black Adam, Shazam 2, Aquaman 2, Batgirl, and WW3 can maintain themselves. As they go, they can find ways to build off the momentum and take advantage of the multiverse - Black Adam vs Superman, Justice League Unlimited...What else? I'm sure there are some clever ideas on this forum. And it'd even be cool to see Snyder come back, and bring anyone from the multiverse, who is game, into a "Crisis" film. Just my two cents, if I were Zaslav, taking over. |
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What they should do is use The Batman as a springboard for a new reboot of their DC movies, and just do loosely connected movies for a good, long while. Maybe revamp stuff like Black Adam and Shazam 2 that didn't have a huge connection to the DCEU (it's tougher with Shazam due to the newspaper clippings and Superman "cameo", unfortunately). What they will do is continue the DCEU limbo, with half-assed "world building", and fanservice to attempt to lure fans in. Knowing the gullibility of fanboys, I bet it will work. At least enough to make some profit for a while. |
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Yes Fans have been begging pleading and demanding DC/Warners to do Man of Steel 2 with Cavill back as superman. But in true DC/Warner's fashion they ignore what the fans want
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The problem is that The Batman isn't a good springboard for anything but more of The Batman. With only villains like Hush, Penguin, Hugo Strange probably.
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Honestly had zero interest in this movie. Even with Keaton, the most I'd do is watch clips of his scenes a week or so after the movie came out on YouTube.
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Reeves has also said he's not interested in that, which is another roadblock. Doesn't make it impossible, but it's certainly not ideal. |
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Really, the most "clean" route to go is bringing back Cavill and doing a soft reboot just called "Superman." MoS happened but isn't really referenced because it doesn't matter in this story. Nice. Simple. Done. Eh. Maybe recast Lois? Batman? Again, we can leave Reeves doing sequels to The Batman over there in the corner for as long as he wants but meanwhile there needs to be a Batman for the "bigger" DCEU. If that doesn't mean bringing back Affleck if he even would anyway, then that means recasting him and soft-rebooting things. Sure, the events of "Justice League" and BvS happened... but maybe Bruce was a little younger there than originally portrayed in it and also didn't murder anybody. And so on. Less like an MCU sequel and more like a pre-Casino Royale Bond sequel, if that makes sense.
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Its funny, how basically everything forces WB to go Marvel route, by making standalone movies first and crossovers later.
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And for the people denouncing The Batman as a potential start to a new universe, well, okaaaaay. Lots of guys say that, and that they want to just keep the DCEU. Sure, go for it. Have fun with more of the same crap. They could have been more creative, it's just that their 'talent' along with their executives are short sighted, and greedy, so they are going to go through the Marvel route...and rush through it. To 'catch up'. Again, more of the same crap. |
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I don’t understand why one would use The Batman as a spring board for the DCEU.
It’s not like it grossed a billion. It’s very well received, but not the type of movie that shouts “springboard” for an entire DC universe. 1. It’s hyper-realistic. You can veer from that, but then what’s the point of using it as a starting point? Characters like Superman are going to drastically alter the dna of the world Reeve’s is creating. There is a way to make it work, but I’m not sure it’s worth it. 2. The creator of this potential new starting point, doesn’t like the idea. So what do you do? Take the recipe away from the cook, without having the secret ingredients? “Thanks for this universe, Matt, we will take it from here.” Didn’t work so well for the Snyder to Whedon transition, that’s for sure. And there goes the Batman sequel bc you pissed off the director whom was told he wouldn’t have to incorporate his universe into the shared multiverse. I’m not seeing any reason outside of “Hey, that was a good movie. Build off that.” But maybe I can be convinced. |
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What? No, he hasn't. And how can he be "done" with Superman when nobody has even offered him any Superman?
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I doubt they'll ever bring him back. Certain leaks (/rumors) for Flashpoint also state that the movie will...have new faces for the future of the DCEU if it proceeds. |
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No maybe, that's what it is. He's repeatedly indicated he's down to come back and "hasn't thrown away his suit yet" or whatever it was a little bit back.
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I really don't think they'll ever do a Man of Steel 2. At best, they'll do the black Superman reboot concept they've been not-so-subtly hinting at for the last few years. |
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Almost anything can happen at WBD/DC right now.
Discovery just bought WB from AT&T and there is a new head honcho. So while we can still look at the evidence we have in front of us, we also have to realize there is a new man in charge, making sweeping changes, so there is a lot up in the air right now. Regarding Cavill, I'm pretty sure he is just holding out for more money. He hasn't been very clear with his intentions, but my read is that it's just negotiating/waiting for the right Superman script to come along. Whether he gets that is another question. |
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That might have been the case with the Shazam cameo (as in they lowballed him), but there has been 0 evidence that anyone has written any MoS 2 scripts for Cavill. Ever. No one ever even started to.
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Zod is in The Flash? He's probably the version of Zod that became Superman instead of Kal-El
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