Sports: women doing long jumping and pole-vaulting

[Andrew NDB]

Again, no frills, no gimmicks. Just that (in the title).

[IndigoErth]

They felt they had reason to taken down the whole thread before -- Jester: "but the other mod and I thought, despite the text to the contrary, it was a sly attempt to post videos that skirted the rules" -- so you put it back up?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

They felt they had reason to taken down the whole thread before -- Jester: "but the other mod and I thought, despite the text to the contrary, it was a sly attempt to post videos that skirted the rules" -- so you put it back up?

It was taken down because someone posted pornography and got banned.

[Leo656]

I mean, they're wearing enough clothing for network TV and public viewing. What's specifically the problem?

Are fit girls in tight shorts illegal now? If so, check me off this rock, please.

[IndigoErth]

Some might consider keeping in mind that there are also many athletes in these kinds of competitions who are underage...

Maybe the rest are legal aged women (those whose names are on the videos) at the time of those videos, I hope, but seems that Clara Fernandez Ortiz only just turned 18 this past October. Can't find anything suggesting a date or year of that competition, but there is a high chance she was still a minor at the time of the footage that the YouTube commenters are openly ogling. Ick.

Noticing young, soon to be adults are attractive people is one thing, but using their hard work as athletes as vaguely porn-ish material... wtf.

[Coola Yagami]

WTF? Why are underage people even allowed to participate in the Olympics? Maybe at some high school or college contest or whatever, but in the actual Olympics?

Also doesn't it depend what state or country or whatever Clara is from because for some weird-ass ****ed up reason the world just can't pick a number and stick to it.

[Leo656]

Indigo, That is a point.

But on some level, that's just how people are.

Case in point: Women's gymnastics is one of the most popular Olympic-level sports in the entire world. It gets huge ratings during the Olympics, and still does rather well in non-Olympic years, which most Olympic sports can't brag about at all. Most of the competitors you'd see on TV are about 15-19 because in that sport by the time you're 18 your body is shot.

Now, if you think that sport garners huge ratings because millions upon millions of people have a fond but unspoken appreciation for a perfectly-executed Twisting Yurchenko or Triple Layout Dismount... that's just a tiny bit naive. It's because the girls have huge butts and wear outfits that are essentially thinner than body paint. As far as how old they are, it's a total "Don't Ask/Don't Tell" on the part of the viewer; nobody really wants to know.

Having a few friends who compete in that sport - including a couple who competed and won medals at the Olympics - I can attest that they're well aware as to just Why their sport is so popular on TV, and that they lean into it. On some level they create their own routines, and all of those wide splits and "Stick your ass in the air" poses are completely on purpose. It gets a reaction.

Is that a bit "icky" since some of them on TV are like 15-16? Yeah, but if they don't care and feel like playing into it, I can't be bothered to feel THAT bad about it. I mean for one thing, I think the fact that so many of them get molested by their trainers is a lot more problematic than the fact that they bump-and-grind all over the place and that some people really like to watch them do it even though they're that young.

On some level, All Womens' Sports Are Softcore Porn. Except golf, where they wear a lot of clothes and are all rather ugly anyway (and also, they're almost all lesbians which kills the illusion). Nobody watches womens' sports for the athleticism of it all; it's eye candy. Even most of the female audience for most womens' sports are lesbians; what does that tell you? It tells me that they watch for the same reason the men do: Big butts and sculpted abs with minimal clothing.

The only solution I can see is just not put womens' sports on TV until all of the competitors are 18+, and that simply isn't realistic. But what else can ya do? 99% of the people watching it aren't going, "Oh, that girl's only 16, I can't look at her ass." They're not even thinking about it. If they find out, and they feel bad, well, that's another story. But I don't think most people are thinking or looking about it that deeply.

Anyway, I actually didn't click any of those links Andrew posted so I don't know who any of those women are, or how old they are, or any of that. I just see nice butts in the thumbnail.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

WTF? Why are underage people even allowed to participate in the Olympics? Maybe at some high school or college contest or whatever, but in the actual Olympics?

Also doesn't it depend what state or country or whatever Clara is from because for some weird-ass ****ed up reason the world just can't pick a number and stick to it.

As mentioned, in some sports it's a matter of the fact that your athletic peak is around 15-16 years old. In gymnastics, you start training at age two; by 18, you're generally no longer fit to compete at an Olympic level because your body is absolutely destroyed. Some of them stick with it into their early 20s but they're a very small minority, and of those they're mostly only doing exhibitions by then and not aspiring to the Olympics any more.

My one friend actually holds the record for the youngest gymnast ever to win an Olympic gold medal, which she did when she was 14. The next year they changed the rules so that nobody under 15 could compete, so she'll forever hold that record. She had a leave of absence due to some traumatic personal issues but tried to make a comeback at 18-19, but by then her shoulder and knee were just too shot. It's kind of a crazy sport; any sport where you're peaked at 15 and washed up by 19 is kind of nuts, but that's the specifics of that sport and the lifestyle. To be a gymnast, you basically need bones and joints made of Jell-O, and that's only feasible when you're very, very young.

But in any case, if the Olympics had a rule about not putting kids on TV in tight spandex then they'd have to sh*tcan gymnastics altogether. It's one of their highest-rated sports, so they're never going to do that, no matter how "problematic" some people find it. I think that as an institution they ought to pay more attention to the predators working behind the scenes - some of my friends were molested by that Nassar scumbag - than what some people watching it on TV might be thinking. But that's me.

[Coola Yagami]

Ohhhhh I guess that explains why that McKayla Maroney girl stopped doing that kinda stuff after a year or so. She's gotta be mid-20's by now so I assume she's no longer able to perform.

[Leo656]

Not friends with her, can't speak for her, from what I understand she didn't deal well at all with the whole molestation thing and had something of a meltdown; her Instagram for a few years post-retirement was all "Thirst Trap" posts of her barely dressed and shaking her ass in tiny panties, and then all of a sudden she cleaned up her act and stopped posting stuff like that, took most of the stuff down, etc.

It would *appear* that in her case she was doing what some women do post-sexual trauma and try to "reclaim the power" and "take control of their own sexuality" as a way of coping to what was done to them. But then I'm no psychologist, that's just me calling what I see while being aware that's a way some women apparently cope.

She seems to be doing much better now, at any rate. But in her case I am pretty sure that her mental issues after being repeatedly molested for years upon years did more to push her out of the sport than her body breaking down. By all accounts she's still in pretty good health, but mentally she was shot.

I don't really follow the sport anymore, I pretty much stopped when the girls I was friends with stopped doing it, and that was like 20 years ago. No personal investment anymore. I catch it sometimes but McKayla is like the only one I could even name of the more recent crop, and that's just because she's SO f*cking hot.

[The Deadman]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

WTF? Why are underage people even allowed to participate in the Olympics? Maybe at some high school or college contest or whatever, but in the actual Olympics?

Also doesn't it depend what state or country or whatever Clara is from because for some weird-ass ****ed up reason the world just can't pick a number and stick to it.

Not sure what the actual age limit is in the Olympics, but im sure it's close to 15-16.

[IndigoErth]

From what I'd read once back when this most recent one was happening (because on the reverse I was impressed by some of the "older" ones who were winning this time!), I think some sports individually have a limit, but overall the Olympics itself doesn't set one.

Out of curiosity, just looked up the youngest gold metal winners in history and all of them are 13-year-old girls. Most were decades ago, though the most recent was a 13-year-old from Japan who took gold for skateboarding in 2020. Sure, that probably isn't a "sexy" sport to most, in regard to the thread topic, but goes to show that in some cases there are kids that young competing.

As far as those sorts of sports go, according to this link it looks like a 14-year-old took gold for diving in 2020, another at 15 (4th place) for swimming. Youngest kid at those games was a 12-year-old table tennis player.

According to this one the most common age limit for various sports is 15. Skeleton allows as young as 13. Some sports have no set limit, so a kid just has to be just that damn good to qualify so early in life.


edit: Also, these don't look to be Olympic videos, but probably the competitions of hopefuls. So even if a sport has an age limit for the Olympics itself, most of these people are already competing in them far younger than that prior to getting good enough or old enough to earn qualification to go. Even if most of the women in those videos are legal age, they've likely been competing in it since they were minors.

I'm not saying to somehow magically fail to notice the peak form bodies of athletes, lord knows a lot of men competing in certain summer games are hard to avoid noticing as well, but gets a little weird when people start ogling the under 18s and forget or ignore that some of them aren't there yet. *cringe*

[Andrew NDB]

So I Googled "Kirk slapping women" and found this video. I had no idea this was a thing for women's sports.

[Prowler]

I've never been a big fan of the Olympics. Most sports don't interest me at all, and my favourite sport(football) doesn't take the Olympics too seriously. Squads don't send their best players. The World Cup, the Euro and other continental Cups are the important trophies in International football.

Anyway, I did watch some Olympics when I was a kid because my mother liked to watch them and it's not like I had any choice in the matter. So I ended up watching a lot of those sports they don't interest me. Including Pole Vaulting and Long Jumping. I was like 10 at the time, so it's not like I was old enough to notice good looking female athletes yet. I honestly had no idea female pole vaulters were generally attractive. I haven't thought about this sport in nearly 20 years. So pardon me for not realising it until now.

But, it seems some of the athletes in those videos might not be eighteen yet. So, can't say I'm interested.

Leo, want to know one got golfer? Paige Spinarac. You're welcome.

Anyway, I feel like female athletes in general are always a 50/50 when it comes to looks. They're usually either super fine or just very masculine and ugly looking.

[Andrew NDB]

[Andrew NDB]

[Prowler]

I see you're a huge fan of women's athletics, Andrew.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Prowler

I see you're a huge fan of women's athletics, Andrew.

He truly has an eye for the beauty of the sport.

[IndigoErth]

I see there are more entries for Andrew's "Hardcore porn for Amish people" thread. (Well, if it wasn't for the whole technology thing.)

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

I see there are more entries for Andrew's "Hardcore porn for Amish people" thread. (Well, if it wasn't for the whole technology thing.)

There's NO WAY that's a real thread