Star Trek: Discovery

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IMJ

You are giving those people too much credit man. They never liked the I.P.

Some do, most don't. The IP is just the Trojan Horse for them en masse.

[Leo656]

A million plastroncafes.

"I never cared about Star Wars (or Ghostbusters). But I LOVE that this new one makes all the right people mad, so it's my New Favorite Thing. Cry harder, misogynist fanboys!"

Truly awful human beings. The worst.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Leo656

A million plastroncafes.

"I never cared about Star Wars (or Ghostbusters). But I LOVE that this new one makes all the right people mad, so it's my New Favorite Thing. Cry harder, misogynist fanboys!"

Truly awful human beings. The worst.

I've known Plastroncafe IRL and she's not a bad lady, but the most telling post she made was after she saw The Last Jedi. You can find it in the Last Jedi thread. You could tell she wanted to badmouth it but she had to lead with, "I need to wait and see what others are saying" (or something to that effect). As in, let's see what the narrative or line from my leftist friends/media need me to tow before I can comment on this objectively bad movie. And sure enough, once armed with that there she was with the same groupthink automatic responses you've seen from leftists about Last Jedi like a good soldier.

[Leo656]

I remember you telling me you did in fact "know" her rather well.

I just can't really talk with anyone THAT far left, and/or, as you alluded to, insists on doing the whole "groupthink" thing. Popular or not, my opinions are my own, and I can't respect people who need to be in lockstep with their "tribe" before they can speak out loud.

Because that WAS an objectively bad movie for a ton of reasons that had NOTHING to do with "misogyny." So was the Ghostbusters reboot. These were not bad movies because they centered around women, they were bad movies that HAPPENED to center around women and if a person can't be honest enough to recognize that then they've got their head up their ass. And if they HAVE to like something just because it focuses on "One Of Them", even though it's objectively awful, then they're simply a narcissist.

I had my fill of plas many years ago when she saw fit to repeatedly scold me via PM over something I'd said in a thread, even though I made it perfectly and sincerely clear that my mind was not going to be changed and that everything she was saying only made me more certain that my own view was correct. Rather than leave it alone, she kept going, and that annoyed the crap out of me, especially as my Inbox is constantly at 997 out of 1000 and so I can't handle people needlessly filling it up with nonsense. I told her to drop it, she kept trying to "educate" me, and in my head I was like, "Yeah, this is not a person I am a fan of."

After that I probably went out of my way to be more hostile to her than I maybe should have been, but I still feel like she deserved it. That was the first time we'd ever "really" interacted and it was not a good first impression.

[superstaff]

Originally Posted by Sumac

This is incredibly disturbing, if it is indeed the case.

Western world has been saved from religions and from commies, only to fall into grasp of quasi-religious quasi-communists, which are basically a combination of the worst traits from both ideologies.

There's a lot I have to say on this subject, but...eh. To be completely honest, I've grown tired of discussing it because people just don't believe it when I tell this, most of the time. They just either tell me I am wrong or "who cares". The world's been on a steep decline for a while now, and it feels like it's not going to recover. A lot of is due to manipulation, and instigation.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Leo656

A million plastroncafes.

"I never cared about Star Wars (or Ghostbusters). But I LOVE that this new one makes all the right people mad, so it's my New Favorite Thing. Cry harder, misogynist fanboys!"

Truly awful human beings. The worst.

Only worse are people who were lifelong fans of the franchise, but the NEW and PROGRESSIVE thing is what made them to become SUPER FANS!
Eugh.

[Andrew NDB]

Cancelled at season 5. Thank god.

https://www.startrek.com/news/star-t...lpWWT2zhoqfdWA

[CyberCubed]

So this is dead, and Picard is ending with Season 3.

That leaves Strange New Worlds as the only live action show still going, and the cartoons like Lower Decks and Prodigy. Strange New Worlds should last at least 5 seasons barring some budget cuts.

[Andrew NDB]

They'll most likely immediately replace STD and STP with 2 new shows. One will be some kind of 25th century follow-up to STP most likely and the other won't be any good (Section 31 or Academy or something).

[IMJ]

My understanding is that they are going to push a Worf/Raffi show.....

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Cancelled at season 5. Thank god.

https://www.startrek.com/news/star-t...lpWWT2zhoqfdWA

Oh no, and I've grown so attached to all the characters like... Uh... Seriously, how many characters can anyone remember the names of without looking it up? Obviously characters from other shows and movies don't count.

Spoiler:

Michael, Book, Saru, Stamets and Culber are as far as I got. That's not necessarily because I liked them the most, it's really more because it's the main character, the main character's boy-toy, the one character with something of a consistent arc and the guys with the most stale attempt to write romance I have ever seen in my entire life.

[member_removed]

Originally Posted by IMJ

My understanding is that they are going to push a Worf/Raffi show.....

I would watch that, I can't really stand Raffi, but more Worf is always welcome.

[member_removed]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Oh no, and I've grown so attached to all the characters like... Uh... Seriously, how many characters can anyone remember the names of without looking it up? Obviously characters from other shows and movies don't count.

Spoiler:

Michael, Book, Saru, Stamets and Culber are as far as I got. That's not necessarily because I liked them the most, it's really more because it's the main character, the main character's boy-toy, the one character with something of a consistent arc and the guys with the most stale attempt to write romance I have ever seen in my entire life.

Spoiler:

Tilly!
I think the Klingon dude was called Ash Tyler.
I think the Asian bridge officer is called Bryce.

That's all I got

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Oh no, and I've grown so attached to all the characters like... Uh... Seriously, how many characters can anyone remember the names of without looking it up? Obviously characters from other shows and movies don't count.

Spoiler:

Michael, Book, Saru, Stamets and Culber are as far as I got. That's not necessarily because I liked them the most, it's really more because it's the main character, the main character's boy-toy, the one character with something of a consistent arc and the guys with the most stale attempt to write romance I have ever seen in my entire life.

Maybe the season finale will reveal that the entire series was all in the head of Burnham who was actually on a mushroom trip the entire time as an experiment for Starfleet medical.

[ZariusTwo]

Section 31 spin-off confirmed, but it will be a Paramount+ movie

https://comicbook.com/startrek/news/...aramount-plus/

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Section 31 spin-off confirmed, but it will be a Paramount+ movie

https://comicbook.com/startrek/news/...aramount-plus/

Hot garbage. And Kurtzman still doesn't understand what Section 31 actually is.

[Andrew NDB]

So. No surprise. The end of the cancelled STD will end as an un-Star Trek like action bonanza. And it came from "above."

https://www.darkhorizons.com/star-tr...ps-the-action/

[ZariusTwo]

I did chuckle at Frakes calling the last season "emo"