Riot Season 2021

[Leo656]

Obviously edited. If you click around you can find the real one, but obviously it's not as funny as this one.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Obviously edited. If you click around you can find the real one, but obviously it's not as funny as this one.

It was so good though, LMAO Oh god.

Also, I'm not saying I agree/disagree or believe/don't believe, but if Obama really was born in Kenya, like.... were there no other black charismatic and cool lookin' guys available for the Democratic to push? They had to choose the one that everyone could easily point the finger to and say 'hey wait a minute, dude's not even an American'.

[Leo656]

Politicians aren't exactly known for having their finger on the pulse of what's going on. The Democrats' main concern in that moment was in finding a black guy in a tailored suit, and they started to panic when someone told them Sammy Davis Jr. was dead so they took what they could get.

F*ck y'all, if Carlin made that joke you'd be pissin' down your leg.

[Coola Yagami]

It's just so weird. As far as I could remember I always taught that Democrats-good and Republicans-bad. That Democrats cared for the poor while Republicans only cared for the rich. I think the only Republican character I knew was Alex Keaton from Family Ties and his ideas were always challenged or portrayed as contrarian. He also seemed to the only one bringing up political discussion on the show.

[superstaff]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

It's just so weird. As far as I could remember I always taught that Democrats-good and Republicans-bad. That Democrats cared for the poor while Republicans only cared for the rich. I think the only Republican character I knew was Alex Keaton from Family Ties and his ideas were always challenged or portrayed as contrarian. He also seemed to the only one bringing up political discussion on the show.

The entire premise of Family Ties was that they were (former) hippies with liberal values trying to raise three kids of whom were more right leaning, with Alex being the ambitious 'politician' of the three. I don't think Mallory or Jennifer really displayed much political opinion, but that's okay because they still clashed with their parents in other ways. I dunno, I think Alex was pretty sympathetic and likable, for the most part.

As far as 'Democrats cared for the poor while Republicans only cared for the rich'? Lol, it's more like Democrats and Republicans only ever care for the rich, and the politicians on both sides are master manipulators at conning their supporters, and pitting them against each other while they laugh at the stupidity of the 'useless eaters' while they sip their wines from their ivory towers.

[Leo656]

Yep. On some level, everything is just an act with these people.

One of the things that exposed it once and for all for me, was two specific revelations. Number One, finding out that all of these politicians were friends when the cameras were off. I can't remember who specifically or how long ago it was, but it blew my mind a little bit to find out that so many of these people will go on TV, give these passionate speeches about how their political rivals are the devil incarnate, going to ruin your family, ruin your state, ruin your country, whip voters into a frenzy and get them repeating the same bullet points on their social media and at the family dinner table... but when the red light is off, they all go hang out at the same million-dollar dinners, laughing like old chums. It's all a work. They don't actually hate each other, it's like pro wrestling. It is EXACTLY like pro wrestling.

And secondly, as an extension of the first thing, was finding out that a lot of the paid speech writers have no political affiliation of any kind, and write speeches for both Republicans AND Democrats at the same time. Again, now we're into pro wrestling/Reality TV territory. The words coming out of their mouths are not only all scripted, but coming LITERALLY from the same people. It's all an act, a pose, a performance. The Democrats play "Good Guy Characters", the Republicans play "Bad Guy Characters", and at the end of the day, it's all just for TV.

Which means that it is stupid - and tragic - that common people take it all SO seriously that they'll break up their families and friendships over whatever their talking head of choice on TV said they should think/feel.
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Here's a real eye-opener from a guy who knows the game. If you have 15 minutes or so, take the time to watch this video in its entirety as former WCW President and noted TV producer Eric Bischoff gives a TED Talk on how the news media and politicians borrow heavily from professional wrestling on using scripted entertainment to manipulate peoples' emotions and make you think/feel EXACTLY what they want you to think and feel... even though none of it is Actually Real.

Check it out. It's worth the 15 or so minutes and you'll never watch Fox News or MSNBC the same way again.

[superstaff]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Check it out. It's worth the 15 or so minutes and you'll never watch Fox News or MSNBC the same way again.

I'll watch the video, but aside from it being on in restaurants at random, I have never watched Fox News or CNN or any of those news channels. Like, ever in my life. I try to stay informed, just not through one source or one 'side'.

Politics are a lot like a performance art, thus why I say that a lot on here. It is. I mean, Donald Trump had dinners with the Clintons before and after his presidency. Come on. None of these people give a crap about helping us out. They care about the money and labor the citizens can give them. That's it. Beyond that, we are all just a bunch of stupid sheep to them.

Like you said, people are ruining their relationships with loved ones over politicians who would probably shove them into an incoming train for no reason other than their own sick amusement. I know some people reading this are thinking, "Eff you, Superstaff, that's not true! My guys would never do that! They've got my back! They're going to fix the country!" Sure, go ahead. Come back to this thread in about five years, and tell me the politicians on your side have actually done something to improve your life in some way. I'll wait.

[Leo656]

Isn't it amazing how fast everyone just plain forgot that Trump was good pals with the Clintons in "real life"? Like we're just supposed to ignore it all. Just like we were supposed to forget that Bill was a violent rapist, or that his cousin was a high-ranking member of the KKK. Or how Obama spent his whole life going to a church that openly and loudly demonized white people. Like I'm SURE the fact that Slick Willy used to break bread with KKK members in his own family is incidental, he can't possibly have any racist feelings himself (despite, y'know... "Arkansas"). Likewise, Obama CAN'T possibly hate white people, he's half of one! He'd NEVER do anything to try and "get even" with them societally after sitting in a church for 20 years listening to a preacher - who was also a Close Personal Friend - give fiery sermons about how Whitey Is The Devil. No, these things don't affect a person's philosophy or politics at all, surely.

NONE of these people are who they say they are, which is why I don't - and will never - vote. Why? It's all fake. "You don't vote for people, you vote for ideals, what they profess to stand for!" That's what I've been told (mostly by liberals; conservatives don't care if you vote but liberals HATE you if you don't vote). But what good does THAT do if the people in power don't uphold those abstract "ideals"?

You hear it all the time in the rhetoric. "If you vote for Republicans, you're voting to take away a woman's right to an abortion!" OKAY, except Obama had the issue wide-open and did NOTHING with it, so who's fault was that? He lied. "If you vote for Republicans, you're okay with school shootings!" No, nobody is okay with school shootings, stop it. Nobody on either side of the aisle ever has or ever will do anything MEANINGFUL to put a dent in that problem. If they haven't by now, they simply won't. They'll just pass more "Laws" that people will go ahead and ignore, same as always.

So... what good does "voting for an ideal" even DO, exactly? What does it MEAN? You wear a Blue "I Voted" sticker, and you think that makes you a good person? "This is me Taking A Stand, letting you know I believe in vaccines and mask mandates and All The Other Good Things"? Spare me.

Voting is not "activism". It's exposing that you're a willing puppet of the 1%. And that's ALL it is. It does NOTHING. Marlboro and Big Pharma run this country. The figureheads they shuffle around every few years like paperclips? Theater. Simple theater.

[superstaff]

Originally Posted by Leo656

(mostly by liberals; conservatives don't care if you vote but liberals HATE you if you don't vote)

Eh.

In 2020, I hung around in a lot of Right/Conservative places online. When I said that I refused to vote, they all lynched me for it. They called me a c*nt, a traitor, that I wanted to suck Biden off, yadda yadda. They were pretty ferocious about it. The mods in those places, who were also basically Trump supporters/Republicans, let it slide. In one place I went to, they banned me after I reported the harassment, and the ringleader mod (who hated me in general for not 100% towing the line) sent me a PM saying "We don't allow SJW sk*nks like you infiltrate our group. Go kill yourself already." I felt pretty numb, and unsurprised, but also upset that it went down that way.

For the record, yes, I've had the left get mad at me for refusing to vote too. Neither side seems immune to this stuff. They're all hysterical banshees at this point.

[Leo656]

In my experience, The Internet is not Real Life.

The internet seems to turn everyone into an extremist, and not just about politics but about everything. The way people talk about stuff like movies or video games online? They don't talk like that in Real Life, at least not actual well-adjusted adults.

I have a working theory that most people who spend all of their time online are somewhere on the spectrum, because it seems to be their only window into or outlet to deal with the world at large. I have never, ever in all my years run into anyone in Real Life who talks or acts like people on the internet do, and I spent a decade around hundreds of people a day, interacting with them personally/intimately and overhearing their conversations. Real People don't act like Internet People.

Therefore I never put much stock into what Internet People say, on any topic. Kinda like this place. People here give me sh*t; I laugh. They don't matter. In Real Life people love me, they line up to buy my T-shirts and get my autograph, why do I care what Some Rando who has Mommy making their Hot Pocket say to me? I'd be ashamed of myself if I cared.

Likewise, if you or anyone actually DOES know people in Real Life who behave the way Internet People behave... that requires a change of environment and social circle at the earliest possible opportunity. Easier said than done, I know but... it's vital.

I can say I've definitely gotten The Speech from a lot of Liberals in Real Life. "If you don't vote, you're letting The Bad Guys win!" At which point I tell them it's cute they think there are Good Guys as well as Bad Guys. But I, personally, have never had that conversation from anyone but REALLY Church-y conservatives, and they don't matter anyway, they never miss a chance to tell someone why they're a bad person so politics is just One More Thing. Moderate conservatives? They don't really care if you personally vote. They're generally confident that things will swing back around en masse once people see how wacky and full of sh*t the liberals are. Therefore they don't feel any need to "recruit" anyone on an individual level. "People will wake up, and they'll be sorry" is about as strong as it gets in Real Life, from MOST Conservatives.

Basically, if I'm getting shouted or preached at by a Conservative, they're only of the type who'd just be preaching at me about something else anyway. The rest don't generally care. They care about politics insofar as protecting their own 401K, they don't care what You or I do. Generally.

Only Liberals and Christian Conservatives treat the whole thing like an Actual War.

[superstaff]

Originally Posted by Leo656

In my experience, The Internet is not Real Life.

Well, I did lose my one IRL friend due to politics recently, remember? He wasn't really a Crazy Conservative Christian either. Probably more a nerdy 'f*ck SJWs' type. But, uh, yeah.

I feel like a lot of this stuff is spilling right into the 'real world', especially post-2020/Covid. Things are getting bad, if you ask me.

[Leo656]

Some people are letting the internet and people on TV influence their Real World behavior, yes, and it's unfortunate.

As harsh as it is - and I've said this to Coola about losing "real life friends" over this kind of thing as well - if they'd cut ties over something like that, they actually weren't your friend in the first place and any relationship you ever had was entirely one-sided. You might have been "all-in" but they obviously weren't.

I'm all too familiar with how THAT goes, myself. As hard as it can be, you just have to shrug those people off. On some level, I believe the universe brings people in and out of your life for a reason. If they're not in it anymore, they're simply not meant to be and you're better off without them.

But that goes both ways. Sometimes you run into someone and have no idea you'll connect, but you do. I think that's for a reason as well.

I mean, me and Coola are buddies outside this forum, as are me and Zar, and I know FOR A FACT that I have told either of them to suck a bag of barbecued baby dicks at some point or other over something we disagreed upon, way back. Andrew, also. Yet somehow we became close friends even after that. Why or how, who can say? It wasn't altogether expected but it was a welcome development regardless in either case. Perhaps they were meant to be there. In any case I'm glad they didn't let me treating them like sh*t at some point or other keep them from reaching out to me after that.

[1987]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

The only idiot I seen (so far) openly and proudly call himself LatinX is the one dude who played Luigi in the Mario movie.

whaa? John Leguizamo identifies as Latinx? wow, really liked him as “benny blanco from the bronx”, had no idea he was queer, unless it’s just satire. guess maybe the backwards hat in Mario movie was a hint.

Originally Posted by Leo656

hilarious and true. although some people refer to michelle obama as michael, or “big mike”

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Leo656

As harsh as it is - and I've said this to Coola about losing "real life friends" over this kind of thing as well - if they'd cut ties over something like that, they actually weren't your friend in the first place and any relationship you ever had was entirely one-sided. You might have been "all-in" but they obviously weren't.

Yeah, though I'm mostly over it, it still stings how easily disposable I felt. Like dude, they waited an extra week to watch End Game cause I was out of town watching it with my bro, because they just HAD to see it with me. They once invited me to one of those classic Star Wars films at the time during the pandemic when theaters were showing old movies, but they texted me when I was down for a nap. I woke up to all these texts and missed calls and it turns out they didn't even go. I was like 'i mean... You coulda gone without me ya know' but they were like 'its not the same'.

But now over a stupid argument she just ended it and marked it final. Like even the third party thought 'eh give her a few days to calm down and she'll come back'. Nope.

Like you know if this was a TV show or whatever, we would have talked it out and let cooler heads prevail. Maybe hang out less or whatever cause I got the big bad bugs, somehow, magically, eternally, just cause I didn't get the jabs, but not end the entire friendship forever. I still feel even she does try to come back I shouldn't take the apology cause if she cut it off so easily over the jabs, she might do it again over the boosters, or BLM, or abortion rights, or siding with the wrong person on the Depp/Heard nonsense, or any other leftist hot button issue.

But life isn't a tv show. Sometimes people are just stupid and there is no resolution

And to my knowledge, she and my other bud stopped hanging out since then too. Like I was the glue that held 'the three amigos' together. But I'm apparently the Grim Reaper of CoVid, bringing death to anyone that dates stand within 2 feet of me.

[Leo656]

You know what they say: It's "a woman's prerogative" to be a f*cking c*nt.

Which honestly sounds like the main issue, to me, in that whole situation.

Same thing with spitting up families and disinviting your Dad or Uncle or Aunt to Thanksgiving or Christmas. "I don't want people Like That in my life, especially not at holidays." Over a difference of opinion.

There's valid reasons to disinvite a family member to a holiday function. Like, when you were a kid, did they hit you, or molest you? Those are reasons. Dropping N-bombs or homophobic slurs at the dinner table in front of the kids last year? Okay, that's fair, although maybe you could still resolve that with a conversation and a request to "please don't do that".

But "My Dad voted for Trump, so he's not invited to Thanksgiving and I'm not gonna go see him on Christmas", that's... well, in and of itself, that's f*cking pathetic. If it's "just politics", people are supposed to be able to put those things aside, especially friends/family.

But Fox and MSNBC has everybody all worked up to the point where "If you voted Republican, you may as well have shot those kids in Texas yourself!" and it really, REALLY cannot be like that.

[mrmaczaps]

I've only ever lost democrat friends over politics & opinions but honestly, no big loss.... I always invite them to things I do or my comic cons or Mall shows... if they come, cool. If not, their loss. And I'm always armed. I stood next to someone who was complaining about "right wingers" murdering people simply because they/we own firearms. And how they would never go anywhere guns were allowed. Lol. I've never laughed so much in my life. I think their politics make them a$$holes but they're entitled to be that if they want.... I still dig their artwork. Lol.Except the 3 guys who said they would physically attack someone at a con if they saw them carrying, even if its legal. Those types can fvck off.

[superstaff]

Originally Posted by Leo656

You know what they say: It's "a woman's prerogative" to be a f*cking c*nt.

Right... Men are never unreasonable, irrational, discriminatory, outright jerks, etc. Nope. Never. It's all us womens' fault.

I get you're probably sort of joking, maybe, but honestly, I get tired of being judged and labeled solely for being a woman. I've had many men make assumptions about my ideals and morals as a 'crazy leftist' solely because I am a woman (I think a lot of conservatives see someone like me as a potential enemy or infiltrator, which is ridiculous, but alas). I also love it when dudes think the only reason I'm into comics/anime/whatever is because of my husband.

"Wow, Superstaff's Husband, it must've been tough to educate her on comics! "

............Okie dokie. Funny thing is, I was the one who 'educated' him on all that stuff since he had zero interest or knowledge of comics outside maybe an episode or two of BTAS that he saw as a kid. Same with my ex-boyfriend from high school. But, nah, they never believe that. A girl would never willingly touch a comic, much less invest real interest in them unless she wanted some big D. (Funny given that I had to go through actual hell to try to buy and collect comics as a kid/teen since I wasn't allowed to read them.)

Being a woman is what's lost me friendships too. I've had many guys snap at me that "All you women are a bunch of c*nts", and lump all their frustrations with women on me. I get that women can be monsters. I should know, I've been abused mainly by my mother, and bullied by many girls/women throughout my life. But I get annoyed that all women are generalized as being 'the same'.

I found it funny when my IRL friend accused me of having it easy because I supposedly had a p*ssy pass. Dude, no. My life has been hell since basically the beginning of it. Being a woman probably made it a lot harder because I never fit into any groups (girls were particularly cruel to me for being nerdy when I was in middle and high school back in the 2000s, and boys thought I was a 'fake nerd' and 'fugly'), people think I'm a weirdo because I'm 'not like the other women', I'm not very attractive, I've always sucked at things like cooking and cleaning, nobody ever cared or believed me when I did get abused/harassed, etc. I think people believe that being a woman automatically means you get everything you want, but that's not how it works, not for women like me who aren't sexy, hot, rich, charming, yeah.

Oh, man, I remember working at CVS when I was about eighteen years old, and this businessman walked in. A tall, blonde, white man with a nice, expensive looking suit, and a fancy briefcase. I was new, so I didn't know my way around the cash register area well, particularly the cigarettes. He threw his weight around immediately, and barked at me that he wanted Marlboro Menthol. I had no idea what that was, so it took me a while to look for it. He told me in a mocking tone, "Andale, andale!" Like, he was making fun of me being hispanic. The people in line laughed with him, and mind you, most of them were hispanic like me. I was in tears when I rang him up, and he snidely said that I should go back to whatever sh*thole I came from. I didn't bother to hand him his pack of cigs or anything, I just tried to keep it together, and failed. When the next customer came up, a lady (obviously hispanic, mind you), she wore this smug look like she agreed with everything he said. I was just filth to these people, I realized. I've never treated anyone this way, but they felt it was perfectly fine to take a dump on me. Being a woman didn't somehow save me from any of that, nor did being hispanic or anything. It's kind of funny because the 'villain' in my story was the same type of man the SJW sect describe all white men as being like, yet I somehow never generalized all white men as being that way (then again, people of all creeds have treated me like dirt, so).

Funny thing is, I can see how men have it hard too, how society generalizes and dismisses men's hardships. Life isn't fair, and people go through horrible circumstances. However, most don't extend that same courtesy to me, man. In fact, they tell me to shut up because I'm a woman, and "have it easy".

[FredWolfLeonardo]

That's horrible, you didn't deserve to get treated that way superstaff.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by superstaff

Right... Men are never unreasonable, irrational, discriminatory, outright jerks, etc. Nope. Never. It's all us womens' fault.

See? This one gets it.

Just kidding Superstaff. Remember these kinds of statements fall under the 'not all' category.

You know you're cool with us.

Speaking of women and comics, my ex and I had our areas, I knew more about the Turtles and modern Batman (at the item), she knew more about Teen Titans and stuff. Whenever we left the comic shop she'd usually be carrying twice the books I would.

Edit- reading your full post, that really sucks. Surprised fellow Hispanics were also siding with him. Like one of em shoulda been like 'no le pongas caso as ese pinche gringo' or something. WTF.

[superstaff]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

See? This one gets it.

Just kidding Superstaff. Remember these kinds of statements fall under the 'not all' category.

You know you're cool with us.

Speaking of women and comics, my ex and I had our areas, I knew more about the Turtles and modern Batman (at the item), she knew more about Teen Titans and stuff. Whenever we left the comic shop she'd usually be carrying twice the books I would.

Edit- reading your full post, that really sucks. Surprised fellow Hispanics were also siding with him. Like one of em shoulda been like 'no le pongas caso as ese pinche gringo' or something. WTF.

Thanks, my dude.

And nah, nobody said anything. They chuckled and laughed for whatever reason. I guess they found it amusing or whatever. Nobody seemed sympathetic. My co-worker (hispanic as well) coldly told me to wash my face because I was crying. What did happen, oddly, was that when I went to eat lunch at the Quizno's next door, I was on the phone with my then boyfriend (now husband), telling him what happened when some lady interrupted, and told me that what happened to me sucked, and to call her if I wanted another job, then gave me her card. I thought it was a nice gesture at first, though the number I called was for something that seemed to be a telemarketing scam so I noped out of it.

I've worked in other retail jobs, and most people don't really...do anything about a-hole customers. When I worked at Target, some lady got all impatient with how slow I was, so she screamed at me, and pushed a plastic bin right into me all aggressively. I flicked the light on for the managers to come assist me, except they never did. The lady behind her in line told me "man, this job is rough!" in a joking way, but it didn't really do much to comfort me. Target was...worse than CVS in terms of getting really catty, mean ladies like that on a daily basis. CVS just had that one big incident, though it was probably worse than anything that happened at Target.

And thanks, FredWolfLeonardo.