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Old 05-29-2022, 09:01 AM   #241
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Oh, I also wanted to add one more thing.

The thing about 'better mental help' being a solution is that...there's sociopaths and psychopaths out there. No amount of therapy can 'fix' them. Thus they'd either remain locked up, or there'd need to be...other ways to keep them away from the public. Would society really advocate for that? Would you trust the government/medical community to be able to sort the psychos from the rest of us? I mean, Dr. JerkAss could totally write you up as a 'irredeemable, violent sociopath' and throw you in a pen forever because you looked at him the wrong way. Just wanted to point this out.
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Old 05-29-2022, 09:28 AM   #242
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Yeah, but again, as the people quoted in the article who've studied the mass shooting incidents going back almost 60 years have determined, in 90+% of cases, it's not a "real" psychopath/sociopath who does these things but a mentally disturbed person who secretly wants someone to stop them and are "acting out" because they feel hopeless and angry. As they've pointed out, what these incidents REALLY are, are suicides... suicides which have the unfortunate side effect of the person taking a lot of people with them so that their names will live in infamy, and "everyone will be sorry".

That's not consistent with actual sociopathy/psychopathy. A sociopath or psychopath would be acting in self-interest and trying to hurt people and get away with it so they can keep hurting more people because they find it amusing/entertaining. They would not be trying to force a "suicide by cop" situation, that isn't how psychopaths/sociopaths work.

The data overwhelmingly suggests - and always has - that sociopaths and psychopaths become serial killers, NOT mass shooters. Mass shooters are overwhelmingly people who've had a psychotic break after years of abuse and increasing isolation from their peers and the world around them. They needed help, nobody helped them, and they snapped. Which suggests it could have been avoided. Again, most of these people call some kind of outreach hotline, or tell someone online "I'm thinking of doing something bad", right before they go and do it, or within 24 hours of the incident. That's a cry for help. That's not "I actually want to hurt people."

Likewise, I didn't actually want the cops to shoot me. I just felt completely hopeless In That Moment and was acting out. In that moment, I could've potentially and theoretically done anything, up to and including hurting myself or someone else... but it wouldn't have been what I actually wanted. I was just really, really not in a good place.

Thankfully, they strapped me down and sent me to the hospital for my own good. But it could've gone a whole other way entirely. I cannot say with certainty that the house wouldn't have been a bloodbath had my wife NOT called 911 when I started talking about killing myself.

So no, you'll never eliminate sociopaths and psychotics. But less than 10% of those people are the ones doing the mass shootings, according to the data. Some people are born without empathy, and all you can do is lock those people up, unfortunately.

Other people can be helped, though.
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Old 05-29-2022, 10:02 AM   #243
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I bet saying that I prefer Leo to Raph has someone's panties in a bunch somewhere here.
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Old 05-29-2022, 10:07 AM   #244
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My wife has said she thinks Raph (not FW Raph, just Raph in general like Mirage/1990/4Kids) comes off like a date rapist.
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Old 05-29-2022, 10:14 AM   #245
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My wife has said she thinks Raph (not FW Raph, just Raph in general like Mirage/1990/4Kids) comes off like a date rapist.
Ewww wtf. Like how??? Why???
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Old 05-29-2022, 10:32 AM   #246
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I kinda see it. I can see 4Kids Raph slipping someone the ol' Roofie Colada.
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Old 05-29-2022, 10:38 AM   #247
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What, noooo.

I don't even dislike Raph, by the way, he's my second favorite usually.
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Old 05-29-2022, 10:48 AM   #248
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Mine too. I think her opinion may have something to do with 4Kids Raph's sinister laugh and general demeanor. I don't know, we haven't really talked about it.

She's got it bad for Leo, though. Or maybe not "bad", but that's definitely her "pick" of the four. I once asked her if all four were equal in her eyes since they all look pretty much the same and she was like "Raph feels like a date rapist."

It feels like Leo's the one chicks would want if they want to have a reasonably nice (if unspectacular) time and get breakfast in bed the next day. Raph is the one they'd go towards if they wanted to be drilled through the floor but then kinda regret it the next morning.
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Old 05-29-2022, 10:56 AM   #249
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It feels like Leo's the one chicks would want if they want to have a reasonably nice (if unspectacular) time and get breakfast in bed the next day. Raph is the one they'd go towards if they wanted to be drilled through the floor but then kinda regret it the next morning.
Hmmm.

To be honest, I feel like Leo would be pretty distant. He just isn't very emotional, and while he'd probably be protective, and show care, I don't think he'd be super romantic either. It would probably take a long time to bed him too. He'd be a tough nut to crack, so to speak. Donnie's probably the same way, unless it's the 2012 version (even then, April's the exception, so I doubt he'd do that stuff for other girls).

Mikey is the one who'd shower and pamper his lover(...s), if you ask me.
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Hmmm.

To be honest, I feel like Leo would be pretty distant. He just isn't very emotional, and while he'd probably be protective, and show care, I don't think he'd be super romantic either. It would probably take a long time to bed him too. He'd be a tough nut to crack, so to speak. Donnie's probably the same way, unless it's the 2012 version (even then, April's the exception, so I doubt he'd do that stuff for other girls).

Mikey is the one who'd shower and pamper his lover(...s), if you ask me.
Apparently comics version of 2012 Donnie has a thing for redheads, given he was also all over Batgirl, completely ignoring April.
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Apparently comics version of 2012 Donnie has a thing for redheads, given he was also all over Batgirl, completely ignoring April.
Pfft. Oh, you know what, that's right.

I guess ginger girls have Don in the bag then!
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Too bad they don't have souls.
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Old 05-29-2022, 11:11 AM   #253
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Mirage April is a drawing so she doesn't have a soul, right?
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Old 05-29-2022, 02:14 PM   #255
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and anotha one!

another mass shooting, 6 wounded, 2 life threatening. wonder why this one made it to cnn? things like this happen all the time in Chicago.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/05/29/u...ing/index.html
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Old 05-30-2022, 12:48 AM   #256
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Why does the left keep trotting out this Marjorie Taylor Green as if she's someone remotely relevant to people on the right? I don't even know who that is and haven't heard from anyone else who does either.
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Old 05-30-2022, 10:29 AM   #257
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Why does the left keep trotting out this Marjorie Taylor Green as if she's someone remotely relevant to people on the right? I don't even know who that is and haven't heard from anyone else who does either.
I've heard of MTG but only when the Lunatic Left throws a fit over something she said...

As for shootings in Gun Free Zones, ain't that why democrats thought that one up? They seem to like dead bodies of all ages from unborn to grandma.

Gun owners do not want more dead anyone, except maybe for criminals looking to harm anyone. I want everyone to have the right to protect themselves how they see fit. Be it pepper spray, knives or guns. You are your own first line of defense when bad people come bringing trouble. Gun free zones are easy pickings. Get rid of those & it will reduce the number of shootings or at the very least, the number of victims of some lunatics rampage. School shootings have only increased since 1990 when the gun free zone act was implemented. Created by the owner of Kohls, a democrat and signed into law by Bush, I believe. Remove that & allow schools to choose how they defend their students & make anyone who chooses to stay a gun free zone responsible for any & all attacks on students/employees/customers. We've tried it the Lefts way for 3 decades now. It doesn't work.
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Old 05-31-2022, 06:50 AM   #258
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Created by the owner of Kohls, a democrat and signed into law by Bush, I believe.
How interesting that a Democrat and a Republican signed that into law. How interesting. Almost as if both sides are playing their audience like fiddles while they profit off it. Been doing it for a long time, and continue to do it.

Anyway, in other news:

Canada introduces law to freeze handgun sales, ban look-alike toys

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Canada's government introduced legislation Monday to implement a "national freeze" on the sale and purchase of handguns as part of a gun control package that would also limit magazine capacities and ban some toys that look like guns.

The new legislation, which resurrects some measures that were shelved last year amid a national election, comes just a week after a gunman killed 19 children and two teachers in their classroom in Uvalde, Texas.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau told reporters the new measures were needed as gun violence was increasing.

"We need only look south of the border to know that if we do not take action firmly and rapidly it gets worse and worse and gets more difficult to counter," he said.

The handgun freeze would contain exceptions, including for elite sport shooters, Olympic athletes and security guards. Canadians who already own handguns would be allowed to keep them.

Authorities do not expect a run on handguns in anticipation of the freeze, in part because they are so heavily regulated already, an official said in a briefing.

Canada has stronger gun legislation than the United States but while its gun homicide rate is less than one-fifth the U.S. rate it is higher than that of other rich countries and has been rising. In 2020 it was five times Australia's rate.

The rate in each of 2020 and 2017 was the country's highest since at least 1997, according to Statistics Canada.

Canada banned the sale and use of some 1,500 models of assault weapons, like the AR-15 rifle, two years ago in the wake of a mass shooting in Portapique, Nova Scotia - a move some firearms owners say they are contesting in court. Speaking alongside Trudeau, Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino confirmed the "imminent launch of the initial phase" of a program to buy back and compensate owners of such weapons.

While the Liberals have a minority of seats in Parliament, the legislation could pass with the support of the left-leaning New Democratic Party.

The planned legislation would prevent anyone subject to a protection order or who has engaged in domestic violence or stalking from obtaining or keeping a firearms license.

It will also require long-gun magazines to be permanently altered so they can never hold more than five rounds and will ban the sale and transfer of large-capacity magazines.

The new laws would also ban some toys that look like real guns, such as airsoft rifles. Last week Toronto police shot and killed a man carrying a pellet gun.

"Because they look the same as real firearms, police need to treat them as if they are real. This has led to tragic consequences," Justice Minister David Lametti told reporters.

Tom Stamatakis, president of the Canadian Police Association, welcomed some of the moves, such as the "red flag" provisions in the case of domestic violence, and said he would like more information on enforcement and resources for measures such as the handgun freeze.

He completely supported a crackdown on fake guns, which he said were a "big challenge."

"You cannot distinguish between what's a replica firearm and what's a real firearm, particularly when these incidences involving replica firearms occur often in very dynamic, quickly evolving circumstances."

Rod Giltaca, the head of the Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights, said the handgun freeze was "absurd."

He said authorities were not using the tools they already had to tackle gun violence, such as calling people listed as references on gun license applications.
A power grab if I ever saw one. Expect more of this in other countries too.

Again, the governments (in US and around the world) are using the pandemic as a jump off point to initiate agendas like this. If anyone doesn't think politicians would try this, think again. Crack open a history book. Throughout history, people have tried to gain as much power over their citizenry as possible. Just because it's 2022 doesn't mean corruption has been eradicated, and before anyone thinks the populace won't allow this...yeah.
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How interesting that a Democrat and a Republican signed that into law. How interesting. Almost as if both sides are playing their audience like fiddles while they profit off it. Been doing it for a long time, and continue to do it.

Anyway, in other news:

Canada introduces law to freeze handgun sales, ban look-alike toys

https://news.yahoo.com/canadas-trude...DteT16XtKtMTpv



A power grab if I ever saw one. Expect more of this in other countries too.

Again, the governments (in US and around the world) are using the pandemic as a jump off point to initiate agendas like this. If anyone doesn't think politicians would try this, think again. Crack open a history book. Throughout history, people have tried to gain as much power over their citizenry as possible. Just because it's 2022 doesn't mean corruption has been eradicated, and before anyone thinks the populace won't allow this...yeah.
All politicians are corrupt. You don't get to the higher up spots without being bought & paid for... Look at that one eyed a$$clown in Texas. Ran as a conservative, former military & comes out as pro-red flag law (red flag laws violate the cotus). We need to go back to tar & feathers tyrants. As for Canada, they've been fvcked for years. None of these commie gun grabbers are going to give up their guns and armed security.
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All politicians are corrupt.
Wow. I'm surprised that you agreed with me on that. I thought you'd spaz out, and accuse me of being a Skittle haired SJW land whale that's banging Biden as I type this comment out. But, uh, cool.

Yes, I'm not surprised by what's going on with Canada, but isn't the timing of this ban funny? Hm. I'm going to guess there will be more bans incoming worldwide. It's like putting an uncovered tank of mice in front of a hungry cat, the cat representing the politicians and the confused, scrambling mice being us. The world is in a very delicate place right now with war, massive inflation, mandates (yes, places have removed them but the precedent's been set...so when the next 'tragedy' happens...), and you get the picture. The instability is going to lead to politicians making more bold moves that will result in more power and wealth for them, and less rights for us. They'll claim it's for our safety and betterment, of course.
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