Predator 5

[Andrew NDB]

The full trailer:



lol... maybe this really will show the origin of the Predator 2 gun? Looks like it just might (look around 1:55).

Also, it WILL have a Commanche language track: https://www.darkhorizons.com/prey-to...anguage-track/

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

My biggest concern is that this movie won't offer anything particularly new with the Predators. That it'll just be one and a half hours of a 5'5" skinny girl out-Arnolding a single Predator in the woods.

It's definitely gonna be that. I'm not sold on the lead, either. But, that being said, it looks decent enough. Which is to say, more of the same, I guess. I'm down with the setting for sure though. I've always wanted to see more of this kinda thing, rather than just militants. You know, period pieces, different cultures, etc.

[Andrew NDB]

The lead is super pretty, though I wish they'd have sent her to a few weeks at Zack Snyder's muscle ranch.

Wild prediction time, now that we have the full trailer: she and the Predator do their cat and mouse thing for a while and maybe she even outsmarts him... but then the white men with guns come and ravage her village and people in the midst of all of this*. When the Predator notes that the white men with guns have no honor but the lady and her people do, he helps her out and takes out all the pesky white men. Then maybe she gets to go off into space with the Predator like Machiko Noguchi in the original AVP comic. Now, a sequel to THAT might be interesting. Like, Native American chick and Predator going to other worlds to hunt.

*: OR somehow the Predator gets captured by the white men in the midst of their cat and mouse, and then the Native American lady frees him when she sees them torturing him, and THEN the Predator and her team up to wipe them out.

I was thinking this was just going to be a simple isolated incident cat and mouse in the forests with Native Americans vs. Predator but if they've got white men with guns in the trailer, too, you can see exactly where this is going.

[Wildcat]

So he’s gonna become PC Predator? That made me laugh.

I still haven’t seen the last one but this looks cool. Too bad it’s streaming only again.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

So he’s gonna become PC Predator? That made me laugh.

It's entirely possible I'm off my rocker. But we'll see.

Too bad it’s streaming only again.

What do you mean "again"?

[Wildcat]

I just meant it’s another streaming exclusive like Beavis and Butthead.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

I just meant it’s another streaming exclusive like Beavis and Butthead.

Oh. Right. But probably this was the only way we were getting an R rated Predator movie from Disney. Which, again, was borne, produced and filmed after they acquired Fox. So also super surprising.

But it does check a lot of ESG boxes. Especially if it turns out even 75% of my prediction is true.

[Wildcat]

There will probably be some reference to real life since the main characters are protecting themselves and their land but a lot of movies have moments like that. Unless you really think they intended it to be that much of a metaphor about history and stuff.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

There will probably be some reference to real life since the main characters are protecting themselves and their land but a lot of movies have moments like that. Unless you really think they intended it to be that much of a metaphor about history and stuff.

I'm not sure I'm following you, or maybe vice versa.

[Wildcat]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I'm not sure I'm following you, or maybe vice versa.

You’re saying they might portray things in a politically correct way and that it checks ESG boxes.

I’m sure there will be a scene or something, probably before it focuses on the Predator, that makes some kind of statement but I don’t think it’ll be as much as your predictions.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

You’re saying they might portray things in a politically correct way and that it checks ESG boxes.

I’m sure there will be a scene or something, probably before it focuses on the Predator, that makes some kind of statement but I don’t think it’ll be as much as your predictions.

Oh, I see. Well, sort of yes and sort of no. I don't expect it will be preachy (at least I hope not) but we'll get, I suspect, in a single Predator movie:

* Small woman going against all odds and defying toxic masculinity to be "the hero"(ine) against a Predator/"women can do everything a man can do." Prevailing.

* Colonialism bad.

* White men bad.

* White men with guns... even worse.

I know it's just a snippet we get in the trailer, but does anything about that give you the remote impression that does white men are going to be portrayed as remotely sympathetic or as three dimensional, or will that be a thing just reserved for the commanche characters?

But yeah, I'm not prematurely damning the movie. It might be really good. I'm hoping it is. Nothing would make me more pleased than to cleanse my palate of "The Predator" and how that was botched (I still don't place much of the blame on Black). I'm not sure a distant prequel is quite what the doctor ordered, but I know that it can't possibly hurt. Predator is a property that is almost as radioactive as the Terminator franchise. Not quite. I mean, Predator has only 2 failed trilogy starters and Terminator has 3, but Terminator has all the time paradox/semi-reboot stuff going on that makes it really, really hard to touch with a 10 foot pole now.

It just seems clear now how this movie was pitched and how it was greenlit.

[Wildcat]

I can see the guys with guns having a conflict with them because it goes with the setting. Not to be PC but in general. I could see one trying to assist her depending how big of a role they have.

It seems like they’re going for intelligence vs technology though. Her beating it without high tech weapons.

[Andrew NDB]

Confirmation that this is supposed to be the Predators' first hunt on Earth.

https://comicbookmovie.com/sci-fi/pr...gs.2c40.73o8hh

Which at first it might seem as though that means the flashbacks to Predators helping construct the pyramids in AVP would be out the window... but those weren't hunts.

[Allio]

Well… looks like another Predator movie. As I said earlier in this thread, these movies are just so tiring. The Predator is such a unique creature as opposed to most horror movie creatures, but they do the same tired schlock.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

It's entirely possible I'm off my rocker. But we'll see.

I mean, you are. But that is unrelated to this.

[Andrew NDB]

Saw it. It was fine. Exactly what it appears to be and exactly what it was advertised as. Not a lot of surprises but a startling amount of arm and leg severing.

And yes, we do get the story of the pistol from Predator 2 finally, as predicted. On that note, it's pretty cool how you can now watch Prey => Predator 1 => Predator 2 and all 3 movies now form a pretty symmetrical, closed trilogy. At least, they can.

Also, props to TPTB for not kowtowing to any pressure to add "Prey: A Predator Story" or "Predator: Prey" or something stupid like that to the title. This is nice and neat.

Lastly...

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I don't expect it will be preachy (at least I hope not) but we'll get, I suspect, in a single Predator movie:

* Small woman going against all odds and defying toxic masculinity to be "the hero"(ine) against a Predator/"women can do everything a man can do." Prevailing.

* Colonialism bad.

* White men bad.

* White men with guns... even worse.

I know it's just a snippet we get in the trailer, but does anything about that give you the remote impression that does white men are going to be portrayed as remotely sympathetic or as three dimensional, or will that be a thing just reserved for the commanche characters?

All of these things were in the movie. All of her fellow commanche kinfolk make fun of her and tell her she's not good enough, etc. Then the white men were just there to be 2D and evil and poke sticks at the main character and act as cannon fodder, as expected.

[Andrew NDB]

Another thought...

Spoiler:

Does the lady getting and keeping the pistol from Predator 2 actually reveal the Predators come back and kill her and take it as a trophy?

[AquaParade]

I agree with the sentiment that this was the best since the original. Probably because they kept it simple and executed on it well.

Which 80’s franchise finally gets a quality sequel next? I’ve been saying Terminator needs to do this, for a while now. Or don’t, the franchise feels pretty played out. But if you do, make it a low-budget sci-fi horror.
Get Logan Paul to be the new Terminator.

Jk. But who do you get as the new Terminator? Probably an “unknown”, I guess, since Javier Bardem probably won’t do it, despite my wishes.

But to be fair, I want Bardem to play everything. I won’t mind if those Mr Sinister rumors are true.

[IMJ]

Saw this last night. Awesome, awesome movie.

Also, as far as period pieces go, I thought it was terrific. It somehow truly managed to capture a land without technology around. The foley was terrific in it - the vastness of sound in what was a quiet, natural world. Like when they are in the tee-pee talking and not only is the wind blowing but you can hear the flame dashing in the wind - that forgotten silence of just nature and people was captured really well in every scene. The echo of the trees in a forest before mass civilization. It was really well done.

The main character and her brother where incredibly likeable and the Predator itself was awesome. Also the costuming was terrific, even down to the French fur-trader's outfits being mostly skins and furs.

It was also filmed beautifully. Great color pallets throughout, great, vast camera angles. So well shot that I can disregard the "uncanny valley" CG animals almost entirely.

I thought it was great.

[Sumac]

If it is a good movie, as people say, I am pleasantly surprised. After "Predator looking for Autism" from 2018, I thought this franchise had fallen on the level of Terminator, but it seems, there is still some hope.

And, no, please no more Terminator movies for at least next few years. Give it time to recuperate and find some new people who can bring it back to at least semblance of something good.

[Andrew NDB]

There really isn't any redeeming Terminator. And after two failed attempts, Arnold is now too old to even be of any use to a new installment. Though they should have moved past him a long time ago.

And what would you even do? Continue from Genisys? Continue from Dark Fate? Pretend 3-6 never happened again? Remake the original? These are all bad options.