Gay pride

[superstaff]

I think everyone's misconstruing what I mean, and assuming I'm saying we should toss kids to drag shows, and strip joints. I sense a bit of a
"look at Stupidstaff, that f*cking deviant weirdo pervert thinks we should force our kids to become drag queens" vibe which I'm not surprised by either. It's a given. I'm not exactly well liked around these parts.

Anyway, I don't like the pride parades either because I get some snarky comment like "lol Stupidstaff thinks we should put dildo helmets on kids at the pride parades". No, I don't, and I don't like those either since they're just obnoxious virtue signal fests used as an excuse for partying, drinking, and sex. Oh, wait. I'm bisexual, so I'm automatically supposed to support them...like the deviant that I am. My bad. Forgot that I'm supposed to believe everything my supposed 'team' believes in without questioning it.

[Leo656]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-see...160806573.html

Comments Section: "Gas is $6 a gallon, inflation is at a five-decade high, the economy is in shambles... But THIS, Biden has all the time and money in the world to focus on. And Democrats wonder why nobody takes them seriously and why Biden's approval ratings are in the toilet."

They're right.

Especially the part where it says already-collected taxpayer money is going towards these new "protections". If you asked MOST taxpayers where they'd want their money going to Right Now, I can promise you, It Ain't This Stuff.

It's not that gay people don't face discrimination. They obviously do. It's just that objectively, as far as the most important problems facing Americans right now, the LGBTQ+ struggle doesn't even crack the Top 5. Possibly not even Top 10. It's super important to THEM. But they're like 10% at most of the American population.

There's bigger sh*t we need to be focusing on.

[Andrew NDB]

And "conversion therapy" is even lumping in having the basic conversation on a psychiatric level, "are you SURE you're gay/trans/___? Let's talk about it." Why is that so evil?

[CyberCubed]

A lot of gay men act like normal guys though it's just the flamboyant ones get all the media attention. There was a guy at my job who worked there for 3 years, he's kinda fat, but he's around 25ish and has a beard and is a nice guy around the office. Just by going by his mannerisms, voice, etc...you would never assume he was gay and nobody had any idea.

One day in conversation he was talking about movies and said, "I watched this movie with my husband," in casual conversation. Had he never said that, nobody would ever assume he was gay because he didn't have the usual "gay-isms" that gay people usually have. He just seemed like a normal guy, and the "gay-dar" did not detect anything.

Like I honestly had no idea. And everyone still treats him like normal because whatever he does in his private life doesn't change anything about him in the office. So yeah, they're not all the usual stereotypes.

[superstaff]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

A lot of gay men act like normal guys though it's just the flamboyant ones get all the media attention. There was a guy at my job who worked there for 3 years, he's kinda fat, but he's around 25ish and has a beard and is a nice guy around the office. Just by going by his mannerisms, voice, etc...you would never assume he was gay and nobody had any idea.

One day in conversation he was talking about movies and said, "I watched this movie with my husband," in casual conversation. Had he never said that, nobody would ever assume he was gay because he didn't have the usual "gay-isms" that gay people usually have. He just seemed like a normal guy, and the "gay-dar" did not detect anything.

Like I honestly had no idea. And everyone still treats him like normal because whatever he does in his private life doesn't change anything about him in the office. So yeah, they're not all the usual stereotypes.

Nah. All the LGBTs are filthy sexual deviants that wave their rainbow flags all the time, dream about fellating Joe Biden, and try to corrupt the youth. And eat only Skittles to taste that rainbow. There are no exceptions. Open your eyes, Cyber! Open your eyes!

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by superstaff

Nah. All the LGBTs are filthy sexual deviants that wave their rainbow flags all the time, dream about fellating Joe Biden, and try to corrupt the youth. And eat only Skittles to taste that rainbow. There are no exceptions. Open your eyes, Cyber! Open your eyes!

More like "Open yo' mouf."

[superstaff]

Originally Posted by Leo656

More like "Open yo' mouf."

https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l...qf3o8_500.gifv

No.

I prefer M&Ms.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by Leo656

It's not that gay people don't face discrimination. They obviously do.

Do they REALLY these days tho? You can just look at someone wrong & its like kicking a bee hive... that seems like they're extra normally protected class of people to me?

I had a dude hit on me once, a long while back. I told him I was not interested & I'm into ladies, not dudes. He got offended & reported to my boss that I harassed him. They believed him & tried to fire me. When I told them HE asked me out & I simply said no, I like women, they calmed down a bit but I still had to prove it (thankfully a coworker had heard him, one I was kind of friends with at the time... and this was all [wow] 2 decades ago. I haven't seen anyone be discriminated against for simply being lgbtxyz+-×÷, but I have seen people be tired of hearing about their private lives and then railroaded out the door because they asked them to stop talking about sucking d*ck at work...

If its your private life, keep it private. Gay or straight. Thats how its supposed to work. The slope has been slipped.... now they parade nearly naked down the main street and FORCE kids to watch it....

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by superstaff

No.

I prefer M&Ms.

Every sane person does. But that's an awesome gif anyways. I was looking for a different one but that one works even better. There were others from the same fake commercial but they were a little more risque' and I didn't wanna take the chance.

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

Do they REALLY these days tho? You can just look at someone wrong & its like kicking a bee hive... that seems like they're extra normally protected class of people to me?

I don't read or follow the news obsessively, but I do like to do a quick scroll a couple of times a day just to see what's going on. And at least once a week I see an article about some gay or trans person being cursed out and called slurs on the street in broad daylight, and/or one of them being beaten up, sometimes to death.

So... yeah, I'll go ahead and say they still face plenty of "discrimination", yes. I think being called a "f*cking f*gg*t piece of sh*t" in a public forum or being physically assaulted with occasionally fatal consequences absolutely counts. I really don't see how that's even in doubt.

As far as stuff like you're discussing... eh. It's true that in some areas they're definitely a "protected class". For example, a buddy of mine who goes by Sonny Kiss has wrestled for AEW for about two years now... originally they were "just super-gay" but now they apparently identify as "trans-feminine nonbinary", so okay, whatever, I guess. Nice guy, we always got along... not the best wrestler but a nice person to be around. Thing is, they're barely ever used on TV at all, and when they are, the audience overwhelmingly says they can't stand him and want him gone, because they simply don't find their act entertaining. Their entire persona is basically just "the gayest person alive" and their offense looks incredibly weak, like they have a punch that couldn't knock down a feather. As I've said, we get along, but he honestly hasn't improved much as a wrestler since I first knew them about 6 years ago or so. They probably don't "deserve" the spot they currently have. Most fans say, "absolutely not, he's not a good wrestler and he's taking a spot from someone more deserving." It was also recently pointed out by a fan that Kiss hasn't even been on TV in many months, so essentially, they're getting paid a LOT of money to sit at home. There are many thousands of better wrestlers who would love to be in the position Kiss has right now.

But then just tonight, they actually DID have Sonny Kiss on AEW TV... in a commercial... for Pride Month. Not a match or anything, just a vignette about how "Nothing is more powerful than being yourself", and all that jazz.

Which isn't a bad sentiment or anything, it just exposes and puts a gigantic lampshade on something a LOT of AEW fans have been saying about the guy for two or three years: "Ohhh, so THAT'S why they keep Kiss around even though they suck. He's literally the Token Gay Guy, therefore he's 100% bulletproof." And unavoidably, that angers and annoys people. They never use the guy, and he's not actually a good enough wrestler to be on TV for the second-biggest promotion in the country. But they HAVE to keep him around, because otherwise, they'll get yelled at. It admittedly IS kind of unfair, even if it comes from "a good place".

So yeah, sure, in some areas of life, they ARE a "protected class". Undoubtedly.

BUT. They still get slurs shouted at them just for going outside and they still occasionally get beaten up and killed just for being gay. So yeah, they're still discriminated against pretty heavily. That's not even a question, I don't think.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by superstaff

I think everyone's misconstruing what I mean, and assuming I'm saying we should toss kids to drag shows, and strip joints. I sense a bit of a
"look at Stupidstaff, that f*cking deviant weirdo pervert thinks we should force our kids to become drag queens" vibe which I'm not surprised by either. It's a given. I'm not exactly well liked around these parts.

Anyway, I don't like the pride parades either because I get some snarky comment like "lol Stupidstaff thinks we should put dildo helmets on kids at the pride parades". No, I don't, and I don't like those either since they're just obnoxious virtue signal fests used as an excuse for partying, drinking, and sex. Oh, wait. I'm bisexual, so I'm automatically supposed to support them...like the deviant that I am. My bad. Forgot that I'm supposed to believe everything my supposed 'team' believes in without questioning it.

Oh come now SuperStaff, you're too hard on yourself. You might be a Trump Humpin, Biden Sucking, woke, Nazi, multi-hair colored landwhale, but you're OUR Trump Humpin, Biden Sucking, woke, Nazi, multi-hair colored landwhale.

[superstaff]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Oh come now SuperStaff, you're too hard on yourself. You might be a Trump Humpin, Biden Sucking, woke, Nazi, multi-hair colored landwhale, but you're OUR Trump Humpin, Biden Sucking, woke, Nazi, multi-hair colored landwhale.

I belong only to the rainbow.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Leo656

As far as stuff like you're discussing... eh. It's true that in some areas they're definitely a "protected class". For example, a buddy of mine who goes by Sonny Kiss has wrestled for AEW for about two years now... originally they were "just super-gay" but now they apparently identify as "trans-feminine nonbinary", so okay, whatever, I guess. Nice guy, we always got along... not the best wrestler but a nice person to be around. Thing is, they're barely ever used on TV at all, and when they are, the audience overwhelmingly says they can't stand him and want him gone, because they simply don't find their act entertaining. Their entire persona is basically just "the gayest person alive" and their offense looks incredibly weak, like they have a punch that couldn't knock down a feather. As I've said, we get along, but he honestly hasn't improved much as a wrestler since I first knew them about 6 years ago or so. They probably don't "deserve" the spot they currently have. Most fans say, "absolutely not, he's not a good wrestler and he's taking a spot from someone more deserving." It was also recently pointed out by a fan that Kiss hasn't even been on TV in many months, so essentially, they're getting paid a LOT of money to sit at home. There are many thousands of better wrestlers who would love to be in the position Kiss has right now.

But then just tonight, they actually DID have Sonny Kiss on AEW TV... in a commercial... for Pride Month. Not a match or anything, just a vignette about how "Nothing is more powerful than being yourself", and all that jazz.

Which isn't a bad sentiment or anything, it just exposes and puts a gigantic lampshade on something a LOT of AEW fans have been saying about the guy for two or three years: "Ohhh, so THAT'S why they keep Kiss around even though they suck. He's literally the Token Gay Guy, therefore he's 100% bulletproof." And unavoidably, that angers and annoys people. They never use the guy, and he's not actually a good enough wrestler to be on TV for the second-biggest promotion in the country. But they HAVE to keep him around, because otherwise, they'll get yelled at. It admittedly IS kind of unfair, even if it comes from "a good place".

So yeah, sure, in some areas of life, they ARE a "protected class". Undoubtedly.

To be fair, Sonny still wrestles on Dark and Dark Elevation. I saw that commercial as part of Dark last week and I also had to roll my eyes. Not because of the commercial, but because if they're so great, then why aren't they back on TV then? At least in a tournament or a multi-man tag or whatever.

Apparently Sonny has been asked what they think about not being on TV for like 6 months or so and they said they're not mad and still has faith AEW will use em when they have a spot for em on Dynamite or Rampage.

I got the feeling it's gonna be a long wait.

From the 10 or so seconds I met em that one time, they seemed pretty cool.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by superstaff

I belong only to the rainbow.

F*ck it, I'm goin' for it.



For the record, that is CLEARLY Satire, NOT Pornography, so technically it's within the rules.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

To be fair, Sonny still wrestles on Dark and Dark Elevation. I saw that commercial as part of Dark last week and I also had to roll my eyes. Not because of the commercial, but because if they're so great, then why aren't they back on TV then? At least in a tournament or a multi-man tag or whatever.

Apparently Sonny has been asked what they think about not being on TV for like 6 months or so and they said they're not mad and still has faith AEW will use em when they have a spot for em on Dynamite or Rampage.

I got the feeling it's gonna be a long wait.

From the 10 or so seconds I met em that one time, they seemed pretty cool.

5 people combined watch Dark and Elevation. It's taken TNA/Impact's old spot as "The pro wrestling equivalent of Witness Protection". Nobody's ever gonna find you, you may as well not exist.

Sonny is very, very nice. As far as wrestling goes... they're as "indy-riffic" as it possibly gets. Everything they do looks fake and their offense is as limp as a wet dick. They're just not believable. I consider him a friend and I'm glad he's getting paid. But I can't objectively say he deserves his current position. He was a diversity hire and they only keep him around so they don't have to answer to the Twitter Mob. See how they let Janela's contract lapse, and got rid of him, but kept Kiss. They were signed together and made onscreen partners pretty much from the beginning, and after they let Joey go they stopped using Kiss because all they'd done with either one of them was put them in segments together. If Kiss were straight, they would have let him go, too, when they got rid of Janela. There's no doubt in my mind of that.

He's a nice guy, though. One of the nicest.

But that's entirely separate from Work Stuff. I've been called by some of my peers "The Single Nicest Guy In The Wrestling Business" (I try really hard to disprove that sh*t ), but the fact is, I'm not really a great wrestler and "being a nice guy" definitely wouldn't be enough to get me a TV spot, or keep it.

But it does if you're super-duper-gay, these days. I admit... it's a bit unethical, even if it comes from a good place. But that's the problem with "trying to make up the numbers". You mean well, but you do harm.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I'm not really a great wrestler and "being a nice guy" definitely wouldn't be enough to get me a TV spot, or keep it.

IDK man, that Canadian Destroyer you did off the ladder onto that burning table laced with barbed wire and thumbtacks spot was pretty ****ing amazing.

[Leo656]

I'd rather slice my left nut open with razor wire and take an 8-second inhale than do a Destroyer. That move is f*cking dogsh*t.

[superstaff]

Originally Posted by Leo656

F*ck it, I'm goin' for it.

http://i.imgur.com/1M0p5.jpg

For the record, that is CLEARLY Satire, NOT Pornography, so technically it's within the rules.

I swear, you guys must really, REALLY hate me.

[1987]

wait, this wrestler, Sonny Kiss, that you guys are talking about, is they/them the preferred pronouns? or is it more than 1 person? i still don’t understand the concept behind the they/them pronouns, makes it sound like it’s more than one person. wouldn’t wanna accidentally misgender someone, that’s very “bigoted” nowadays that there’s supposedly “more than 2 genders”. lol

check out these “non-binary” caricatures

https://mobile.twitter.com/FlorioGin...52976152432640

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by superstaff

I swear, you guys must really, REALLY hate me.

It's the best gif I've ever seen.

No, wait, this one is.


Or wait, maybe this one is.


No, wait, maybe this one is.


What EVER, it's the best non-Kevin Nash gif I've ever seen, y'all gon' deal wit' it.

Originally Posted by 1987

wait, this wrestler, Sonny Kiss, that you guys are talking about, is they/them the preferred pronouns? or is it more than 1 person? i still don’t understand the concept behind the they/them pronouns, makes it sound like it’s more than one person.

Nice try but "singular They" has been around longer than any of us. It's just become more fashionable recently. I've always used it generally, I don't specifically use it to avoid pronouns though, just if it fits it fits. I try and avoid repeating the same descriptors too many times in a row because it becomes repetitive and redundant, so when talking about someone I'll sometimes replace "he" or "she" with "they" just to break up the flow.

Sonny also seems to prefer "she" these days, and supposedly gets annoyed by "they", but I can't be assed to keep any of it straight. Whenever I worked with him, I always greeted him with "What's up brother?" and said bye with "See you next time, brother!" and he never once corrected me or seemed cross, always gave me a big hug. So I feel like he had every chance to tell me about it if I was upsetting them in any way. Maybe their position has since changed but we can revisit that conversation next time we see each other. In the meantime I'm sticking with what was established between us face-to-face. We're still FB pals, he can come find me if there's any issue, I figure.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Nice try but "singular They" has been around longer than any of us.

Good, I don't have to say it. I find it funny people suddenly have a big problem with it when we've been saying it for singular individuals forever.