New Godzilla and/or Kong MonsterVerse movie

[ProphetofGanja]

Godzilla Versus Kong Sequel Shares Filming Details

Hell yeah! Glad we've gotten confirmation that there's a sequel in the works

[sdp]

New Godzilla Kong movie coming out in 2024, we have the King Kong anime prequel and the Titans Monsterverse Apple TV show. So looks like after the MCU ironically enough it was the monsterverse who actually built a real cinematic universe. Looks like this "Phase 2" is already shaping up nicely and they finished up their "phase 1" well.

Makes me wonder if a Godzilla 3 will ever actually happen or even a Kong 2. I get the feeling we'll be getting a Godzilla/Kong 3 before either of those. I can't say I love the movies but the monsterverse is fun since it's a high budget b-film despite all its shortcomings

[Allio]

The 2024 film is reportedly the Godzilla 3. Though I would have preferred Kong 2 first.

[IMJ]

Whatever it is, they can't come soon enough. I love these flicks.

[Leo656]

I was all-in from the Godzilla solo flick, but "Godzilla vs. Kong" is probably one of the worst movies I've ever seen, or at the very least one of the absolute dumbest with one of the all-time worst scripts ever put to paper, and it really deserved to fail but of course it got a great reaction because all the average mouth-breather cares about is "The dinosaur punched the monkey, maaaaaan! What more do you NEED?!"

So yeah, no, I couldn't possibly care less about what they do next, it's just gonna be another mindless f*cking cartoon like the last one. Just because something is "escapism" and "entertainment" doesn't mean it HAS to be so f*cking unapologetically insipid.

...Of course, which movies actually make money directly goes against that idea, so yeah, I know, once again I'm outvoted by idiots. Doesn't matter, still right.

[Allio]

While I’m more excited about the “Shin-ematic” universe more, I do admit that the best part of the “Monsterverse” is how different the films are from one about. Despite there only being four films now you can get several people in a room and you can get different answers of “Which is the best film” and people would have different answers for different reasons.

Honestly it is what makes “Kaiju” films such a unique experience as there is no real definitive way to make one of those films.

[Andrew NDB]

They can be different, I guess, as long as we get back to films like Godzilla 2014 and Skull Island and not just more King of the Monsters and GvK.... which are ridiculous.

[Powder]

Ridiculous is par the course for Godzilla. Wouldn't be the same otherwise.

[Leo656]

I like the 3 or 4 good ones. Not the 40-something "This is all just stupid and the people watching it are also stupid so let's just drop all pretense and Be Stupid" ones.

Imagine my shock at how the original Gojira is just plain A Good Movie, after all my preconceived notions as a kid about what those movies were "supposed" to be. Quite a revelation.

Too bad "It's SUPPOSED to be stupid!" became the driving force and ruined it all, just like with TMNT.

[Allio]

Originally Posted by Powder

Ridiculous is par the course for Godzilla. Wouldn't be the same otherwise.

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While I can understand why people enjoy the Showa Era, I do prefer the Heisei era more.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Allio

While I can understand why people enjoy the Showa Era, I do prefer the Heisei era more.

I knda can't understand it.

But I mean, aside from the first one they were all kids' movies until a certain point. You're allowed to do that. I'm just never, ever in favor of it, because kids are retards. Therefore, by definition anything designed specifically to entertain them is terrible, because they are literally products designed for people with no taste and no standards. And so I genuinely don't get it when grown people love "kids' movies" with no irony. Like, what's the appeal? The constant cringe humor? The lack of stakes or verisimilitude? The "plots" that come off like some kid smashing action figures together with no rhyme or reason? I don't get it. I'll never get it.

But in the case of the goofy Godzilla stuff, I recognize that it was also a different time. It was "forgivable/acceptable", given the limitations of the medium as well as what people were willing to accept from "real movies", to just make bad movies on purpose. I don't think that should be acceptable practice NOW, however.

I also just plain don't think the concept is silly or goofy at all, and I think an approach that's less Saturday Morning Cartoon and more Apocalyptic Nightmare would be best for the material. I think people only assume/expect/accept that the kaiju concept is "goofy" or "silly" because several decades of bad movies taught them to think that. If someone had the idea for Godzilla today, right now, and it had never been done before, I promise you that their first instinct would NOT be to make a live-action cartoon out of it.

Ideally, we'd get some sort of happy medium between the solo Godzilla flick and Skull Island and that would be the general tone and approach. This stuff should be horrifying, not goofy.

[drgon78]

I would love a Godzilla 3 and Kong 2 but not interested in another team up movie. I would like a Mothra movie as well. I hope future movies will have other classic monsters like Anguirus, Biollante, Gigan, Hedorah, King Caesar, etc.

[ProphetofGanja]

I'm willing to bet the movie features both Godzilla and Kong to some extent, but it won't be called Godzilla vs Kong 2 as it's not really a versus story anymore. It'll probably focus on Kong inside Hollow Earth. Whatever the case I hope it features some of all the other Titans they introduced in King of the Monsters.

I think I'm most excited about the Skull Island anime for now. the AppleTV show will have to focus on human drama since they won't have the budget for big time kaiju fights and it's still too far off to form any real opinions on

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I like the 3 or 4 good ones. Not the 40-something "This is all just stupid and the people watching it are also stupid so let's just drop all pretense and Be Stupid" ones.

Imagine my shock at how the original Gojira is just plain A Good Movie, after all my preconceived notions as a kid about what those movies were "supposed" to be. Quite a revelation.

Too bad "It's SUPPOSED to be stupid!" became the driving force and ruined it all, just like with TMNT.

Gojira was a monster movie. Almost every Japanese Godzilla movie after that was Power Rangers - Japanese culture turned Godzilla into a cultural superhero franchise. They are Marvel movies of the era for Japan.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Ideally, we'd get some sort of happy medium between the solo Godzilla flick and Skull Island and that would be the general tone and approach. This stuff should be horrifying, not goofy.

Yeah, exactly. Only 3 or 4 movies in and it's already "let's take spaceships to the center of the Earth!"?

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by IMJ

Gojira was a monster movie. Almost every Japanese Godzilla movie after that was Power Rangers - Japanese culture turned Godzilla into a cultural superhero franchise. They are Marvel movies of the era for Japan.

My opinion of both Power Rangers and Marvel movies should be a matter of public record by this point.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Leo656

But I mean, aside from the first one they were all kids' movies until a certain point. You're allowed to do that. I'm just never, ever in favor of it, because kids are retards. Therefore, by definition anything designed specifically to entertain them is terrible, because they are literally products designed for people with no taste and no standards. And so I genuinely don't get it when grown people love "kids' movies" with no irony. Like, what's the appeal? The constant cringe humor? The lack of stakes or verisimilitude? The "plots" that come off like some kid smashing action figures together with no rhyme or reason? I don't get it. I'll never get it.

I like that you NEED to insert everywhere how are a grown up boy, who LOVES everything to be gritty and serious and have stakes, but, you know...
no-one gives a ****.

People go to the movie, where giant ape and a giant clumsy lizard are duking it out not for a tear-jerking ****** drama about humans and their problems - they are coming to see **** getting wrecked. If anything, this type of movies, would've benefited, if humans would've been cut of completely. Just give me an hour of amazing CGI and I set.

And you know why? BECAUSE, ITS ****ING FUN.

You can pretend that you are being smarter than anyone else in the room, but in reality you are acting like a crummy and dry 80-year old virgin in a strip club, crying about "why people enjoying all those naked women dancing, instead of having enlightened talks about literature?"

Everything has its time and place and movie about a giant monkey and a giant lizard fighting on an aircraft is by definition a ridiculous ********.
Enjoy the ride or be a sour grape.

Its not like there can't be serious movies about Godzilla, but you need to choose battles wisely. If a movie wears its colors on its sleeve - then crying "why its ridiculous?" is like crying about horror movie not being a family-friendly comedy, despite it being advertised as a horror everywhere.

[ProphetofGanja]

Originally Posted by IMJ

Gojira was a monster movie. Almost every Japanese Godzilla movie after that was Power Rangers - Japanese culture turned Godzilla into a cultural superhero franchise. They are Marvel movies of the era for Japan.

A lot of them, yeah, but not all of them. Hey it was Japan in the 60s what else would you expect Godzilla vs. Hedorah, Godzilla vs. Biollante, and shoot even Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla all have some pretty poignant moments. But it's definitely a YMMV-type of thing

[Allio]

If we are talking about the best Godzilla films I would say my top five are, in no particular order,

Godzilla (54)
Godzilla vs Biollante
Godzilla GMK
Godzilla against Mecha Godzilla
Shin Godzilla

And honestly all of them are good for different reasons.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Sumac

I like that you NEED to insert everywhere how are a grown up boy, who LOVES everything to be gritty and serious and have stakes, but, you know...
no-one gives a ****.

People go to the movie, where giant ape and a giant clumsy lizard are duking it out not for a tear-jerking ****** drama about humans and their problems - they are coming to see **** getting wrecked. If anything, this type of movies, would've benefited, if humans would've been cut of completely. Just give me an hour of amazing CGI and I set.

And you know why? BECAUSE, ITS ****ING FUN.

You can pretend that you are being smarter than anyone else in the room, but in reality you are acting like a crummy and dry 80-year old virgin in a strip club, crying about "why people enjoying all those naked women dancing, instead of having enlightened talks about literature?"

Everything has its time and place and movie about a giant monkey and a giant lizard fighting on an aircraft is by definition a ridiculous ********.
Enjoy the ride or be a sour grape.

Its not like there can't be serious movies about Godzilla, but you need to choose battles wisely. If a movie wears its colors on its sleeve - then crying "why its ridiculous?" is like crying about horror movie not being a family-friendly comedy, despite it being advertised as a horror everywhere.

I love how nobody's allowed to have a different opinion when you're around, son.

I wasn't "a kid" even when I physically was one. I always preferred hanging out with adults and watching adult things. I'm not going to apologize for it. I shouldn't have to. Nor do I/should I give a f*ck about what simpletons find amusing.

My previous "forum stalker" died recently and I'm not in the mood for another one. So for the hundredth time, if my taste in movies bothers you SO much, save it for your therapist, because you shouldn't give a sh*t as much as you clearly do. If me explaining what I like/dislike and Why is so triggering for you that you just NEED to type out a rant so as to call me some kind of name over it, that's obsessive behavior.

Y'know what's "fun" for me? Watching a movie and not being treated like I'm four f*cking years old. That's allowed. In fact, it ought to be more encouraged.