Stranger Things (Netflix Original) - Page 8

*Andrew NDB* · 07-15-2022, 12:56 PM

Confirmed -- Will is a raging homosexual:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/schnapp...ranger-things/

And yeesh... wait a minute here. They're going to use season 5 to get into Will and his connections to the Upside Down, at the same time they're presumably going to have him come out on the show since this is the last season? And at the same time Uma Thurman's daughter will find proper lesbian love? Has the Upside Down been an allegory for closeted homosexuality all along?

*Turo602* · 07-15-2022, 01:03 PM

I don't think they confirmed the "raging" bit.

~~Leo656~~ · 07-15-2022, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Turo602

I don't think they confirmed the "raging" bit.

Right?

Andrew's one of my favorites, but a LOT of his posts do kinda come off like a classic example of "How to say gay people make you very uncomfortable without actually saying 'Gay people make me very uncomfortable'." It's the little things, such as the chosen adverb in this specific case. The character can't just be "a homosexual" but "a raging homosexual", specifically.

I'unno man. Sometimes I wonder how much of this is gentle ribbing and how much of it is textbook "I don't hate gay people, BUT..." kinda stuff.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-15-2022, 04:22 PM

It is 83% more fun to say "raging homosexual." Admit it.

*CyberCubed* · 07-15-2022, 04:23 PM

Will's actor says his character has a crush on Mike and that's why he was crying in the car. That makes no sense, Will was telling Mike how much he loved his girlfriend at the time and wanted them to get back together, I don't know why he'd then cry over it if he liked Will.

Will is such a gay crybaby gay homosexual homo. And yes I said that to emphasize it.

Why would he be sitting there crying all the time if he had a crush on his friend when he knows his friend was in a relationship with a girl?

What a gay homo. Someone needs to beat him up and steal his lunch money. Some kids deserve to be bullied.

~~Leo656~~ · 07-15-2022, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

It is 83% more fun to say "raging homosexual." Admit it.

I generally call them "Homo-Skillets."

I heard it on Robot Chicken once like 10+ years ago and it's never left me.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-15-2022, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Will's actor says his character has a crush on Mike and that's why he was crying in the car. That makes no sense, Will was telling Mike how much he loved his girlfriend at the time and wanted them to get back together, I don't know why he'd then cry over it if he liked Will.

Will is such a gay crybaby gay homosexual homo. And yes I said that to emphasize it.

Why would he be sitting there crying all the time if he had a crush on his friend when he knows his friend was in a relationship with a girl?

What a gay homo. Someone needs to beat him up and steal his lunch money.

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Some kids deserve to be bullied.

Well, I don't disagree there. Generally speaking.

*Turo602* · 07-15-2022, 04:50 PM

The scene would make more sense if you weren't watching in 1.5 speed.

*IndigoErth* · 07-15-2022, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

That makes no sense, Will was telling Mike how much he loved his girlfriend at the time and wanted them to get back together, I don't know why he'd then cry over it if he liked Will.

Spoken like someone who has never experienced unrequited feelings for anyone and was painful to accept.

Because Mike will never feel the same and Will started to accept that fact. That is painful for most people.

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Why would he be sitting there crying all the time if he had a crush on his friend when he knows his friend was in a relationship with a girl?

He held out foolish hope like many young people will. But Mike is his friend and only wants him to be happy, so of course he tried to be encouraging, even while it hurt to say it and accept that he has to let Mike go.

*CyberCubed* · 07-15-2022, 06:46 PM

1. Will knows that Mike/Eleven have been a couple for what is it...about 5ish years by Season 4? I forget how much time has passed, but its been at least a few years given how young they all are in Season 1.

2. Literally in the SAME scene has Mike wondering if he and Eleven will ever get back together, and Will gives him a whole encouraging speech how he's "the heart" and Eleven and him need each other.

So him doing all that and bursting into tears because he has some gay homo crush on his friend who he knows had a girlfriend for the last 4-5 years makes no sense. Even if he DID like him that way, he should know good and well he's "taken" and Mike is probably straight 100% anyway.

So him crying just looked forced and stupid. You can make Will a homosexual without going full Gay Lord over it. Now he's just a crybaby homo who gets no sympathy from me. He's the type of kid you'd see others yelling, "HOOOOOMOOOOOOOO!" down the Gym locker room or whatever. "HOMO!' "Hoooomooooooo!"

*Turo602* · 07-15-2022, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

1. Will knows that Mike/Eleven have been a couple for what is it...about 5ish years by Season 4? I forget how much time has passed, but its been at least a few years given how young they all are in Season 1.

2. Literally in the SAME scene has Mike wondering if he and Eleven will ever get back together, and Will gives him a whole encouraging speech how he's "the heart" and Eleven and him need each other.

So him doing all that and bursting into tears because he has some gay homo crush on his friend who he knows had a girlfriend for the last 4-5 years makes no sense. Even if he DID like him that way, he should know good and well he's "taken" and Mike is probably straight 100% anyway.

So him crying just looked forced and stupid. You can make Will a homosexual without going full Gay Lord over it. Now he's just a crybaby homo who gets no sympathy from me. He's the type of kid you'd see others yelling, "HOOOOOMOOOOOOOO!" down the Gym locker room or whatever. "HOMO!' "Hoooomooooooo!"

Were you molested as a child or something?

*CyberCubed* · 07-15-2022, 06:58 PM

It doesn't make sense to write a gay teen in the 80's like this.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-15-2022, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

It doesn't make sense to write a gay teen in the 80's like this.

I mean, it's true. Kids just weren't wired like this back then. It wasn't a thing. Definitely not in Indiana, particularly.

*Turo602* · 07-15-2022, 07:15 PM

Well, you guys sure seem like experts on what it was like being gay in the 80s. But it seems like a dumb thing to nitpick given all the bullsh*t that happens in the show. Somehow THIS is the only thing that sticks out as odd or off for the 80s...

~~Leo656~~ · 07-15-2022, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I mean, it's true. Kids just weren't wired like this back then. It wasn't a thing. Definitely not in Indiana, particularly.

Very first Comment under the article You posted:

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i know how some will react to this announcement, but as a gay kid growing up in the 80s, the way this has been written was pretty spot on to my experience growing up.

Hmmmm. Hmmm.

I begin to suspect that several people here who clearly never met a gay person until they were in their 20s (or 30s!) are maybe not the best authority on the subject of Where, When and How gay people existed in the Long Long Ago.

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Originally Posted by Turo602

Well, you guys sure seem like experts on what it was like being gay in the 80s. But it seems like a dumb thing to nitpick given all the bullsh*t that happens in the show. Somehow THIS is the only thing that sticks out as odd or off for the 80s...

I've never seen an episode of this show and honestly don't even really get what it's supposed to be about.

I just think it's funny how rampantly and unashamedly far-right and intolerant most of the people on this forum are, only to claim "I'm actually not, though" if ever called out.

Like, I laughed at the guy last year who said this place was turning into Breitbart. But given how the people here talk about gay people, not to mention the RvW "debate" and all the conspiracy-mongering that's allowed to go un unchecked... yeah, I kinda think I may have "Ha-ha'ed" too soon. Starting to think that idiot might have been ahead of the curve after all.

*CyberCubed* · 07-15-2022, 07:22 PM

I was in High School in 2000-2003, which is well after the 90's, and even in the early 2000's NOBODY would admit they were gay. Not a single person I knew back then (and by this I mean virtually everyone, even people you didn't speak to), was gay. If anyone was, they hid it well enough.

The moment someone would be revealed to be gay the gossip would spread through the whole school and the person would never be able to live it down. So it just never happened.

Gay's were just not a thing back then. And the only lesbians people spoke of were the ones in the online pornos but not in real life.

~~Leo656~~ · 07-15-2022, 07:29 PM

I graduated in 2000 you numbskull. One of the guys was Obviously Gay from Day One of Freshman Year. It wasn't even a "secret" and aside from the usual snickers about it nobody actually gave a sh*t. It probably helped that he was a nice guy and friends with all the hottest girls in school. But he very openly existed and to my knowledge never caught sh*t over it.

Not to mention the number of girls I knew back then who were openly getting it on with each other, but I'm assuming by your logic "girls don't count" or "that's different" or something.

I know that a good percentage of your gimmick is being ostentatious for a reaction but as you begin to get old I'd hope that it starts to become less satisfying. Trolls are bad enough, middle-aged trolls are just sad. People pushing 40 should not be "stirring sh*t for the lulz" on a message board. It's just... weird.

*Turo602* · 07-15-2022, 07:36 PM

I don't even understand what CyberCubed is even trying to get at at this point either. Will and Robin are still closeted and that's literally been there thing this whole season.

*CyberCubed* · 07-15-2022, 08:08 PM

It must be different where you live, because there was definitely no openly gay people in my school for all 4 years. And as I said, people used to yell out "homo" down the Gym locker room or the halls all the times to tease/mock people and those people weren't even gay. Now imagine if people actually *were* gay it would be 10 times worse.

If there were people who were actually gay at that time, they kept it to themselves and hid it well enough that nobody knew. There was definitely no "Hey I'm coming out as gay everyone accept me" thing back then.

*IndigoErth* · 07-15-2022, 08:48 PM

Can't say I knew of anyone verbally openly gay in my school... but listen ~~youngins~~ youngerins, I graduated in '97 and we had a kid a grade ahead of me who was the known cross dresser...prob a trans women today, but wasn't a term back then. Only ever saw him/her (not sure what they actually went by) dressed in girls clothing. Pretty sure (s)he was into guys though, from second hand talk.

Also a pair a girls a grade ahead who shared my Graphics Arts 'major' that always seemed a little uncomfortably closer in their friendship than most and I always suspected they may have had more going on...

07-15-2022, 12:56 PM	#141
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,560	Confirmed -- Will is a raging homosexual: https://www.darkhorizons.com/schnapp...ranger-things/ And yeesh... wait a minute here. They're going to use season 5 to get into Will and his connections to the Upside Down, at the same time they're presumably going to have him come out on the show since this is the last season? And at the same time Uma Thurman's daughter will find proper lesbian love? Has the Upside Down been an allegory for closeted homosexuality all along? __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

07-15-2022, 01:03 PM	#142
Turo602 The King of Kings Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Illinois Posts: 2,931	I don't think they confirmed the "raging" bit. __________________

07-15-2022, 04:22 PM	#144
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,560	It is 83% more fun to say "raging homosexual." Admit it. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

07-15-2022, 04:50 PM	#148
Turo602 The King of Kings Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Illinois Posts: 2,931	The scene would make more sense if you weren't watching in 1.5 speed. __________________

07-15-2022, 07:15 PM	#154
Turo602 The King of Kings Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Illinois Posts: 2,931	Well, you guys sure seem like experts on what it was like being gay in the 80s. But it seems like a dumb thing to nitpick given all the bullsh*t that happens in the show. Somehow THIS is the only thing that sticks out as odd or off for the 80s... __________________

07-15-2022, 04:23 PM	#145
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,881	Will's actor says his character has a crush on Mike and that's why he was crying in the car. That makes no sense, Will was telling Mike how much he loved his girlfriend at the time and wanted them to get back together, I don't know why he'd then cry over it if he liked Will. Will is such a gay crybaby gay homosexual homo. And yes I said that to emphasize it. Why would he be sitting there crying all the time if he had a crush on his friend when he knows his friend was in a relationship with a girl? What a gay homo. Someone needs to beat him up and steal his lunch money. Some kids deserve to be bullied.

07-15-2022, 06:46 PM	#150
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,881	1. Will knows that Mike/Eleven have been a couple for what is it...about 5ish years by Season 4? I forget how much time has passed, but its been at least a few years given how young they all are in Season 1. 2. Literally in the SAME scene has Mike wondering if he and Eleven will ever get back together, and Will gives him a whole encouraging speech how he's "the heart" and Eleven and him need each other. So him doing all that and bursting into tears because he has some gay homo crush on his friend who he knows had a girlfriend for the last 4-5 years makes no sense. Even if he DID like him that way, he should know good and well he's "taken" and Mike is probably straight 100% anyway. So him crying just looked forced and stupid. You can make Will a homosexual without going full Gay Lord over it. Now he's just a crybaby homo who gets no sympathy from me. He's the type of kid you'd see others yelling, "HOOOOOMOOOOOOOO!" down the Gym locker room or whatever. "HOMO!' "Hoooomooooooo!"

07-15-2022, 06:58 PM	#152
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,881	It doesn't make sense to write a gay teen in the 80's like this.

07-15-2022, 07:22 PM	#156
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,881	I was in High School in 2000-2003, which is well after the 90's, and even in the early 2000's NOBODY would admit they were gay. Not a single person I knew back then (and by this I mean virtually everyone, even people you didn't speak to), was gay. If anyone was, they hid it well enough. The moment someone would be revealed to be gay the gossip would spread through the whole school and the person would never be able to live it down. So it just never happened. Gay's were just not a thing back then. And the only lesbians people spoke of were the ones in the online pornos but not in real life.

07-15-2022, 07:29 PM	#157
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I graduated in 2000 you numbskull. One of the guys was Obviously Gay from Day One of Freshman Year. It wasn't even a "secret" and aside from the usual snickers about it nobody actually gave a sht. It probably helped that he was a nice guy and friends with all the hottest girls in school. But he very openly existed and to my knowledge never caught sht over it. Not to mention the number of girls I knew back then who were openly getting it on with each other, but I'm assuming by your logic "girls don't count" or "that's different" or something. I know that a good percentage of your gimmick is being ostentatious for a reaction but as you begin to get old I'd hope that it starts to become less satisfying. Trolls are bad enough, middle-aged trolls are just sad. People pushing 40 should not be "stirring sh*t for the lulz" on a message board. It's just... weird.

07-15-2022, 07:36 PM	#158
Turo602 The King of Kings Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Illinois Posts: 2,931	I don't even understand what CyberCubed is even trying to get at at this point either. Will and Robin are still closeted and that's literally been there thing this whole season. __________________

07-15-2022, 08:08 PM	#159
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,881	It must be different where you live, because there was definitely no openly gay people in my school for all 4 years. And as I said, people used to yell out "homo" down the Gym locker room or the halls all the times to tease/mock people and those people weren't even gay. Now imagine if people actually were gay it would be 10 times worse. If there were people who were actually gay at that time, they kept it to themselves and hid it well enough that nobody knew. There was definitely no "Hey I'm coming out as gay everyone accept me" thing back then.

07-15-2022, 08:48 PM	#160
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,296	Can't say I knew of anyone verbally openly gay in my school... but listen ~~youngins~~ youngerins, I graduated in '97 and we had a kid a grade ahead of me who was the known cross dresser...prob a trans women today, but wasn't a term back then. Only ever saw him/her (not sure what they actually went by) dressed in girls clothing. Pretty sure (s)he was into guys though, from second hand talk. Also a pair a girls a grade ahead who shared my Graphics Arts 'major' that always seemed a little uncomfortably closer in their friendship than most and I always suspected they may have had more going on...