What Grinds Your Gears? :) - Page 473

superstaff · 07-19-2022, 09:50 AM

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I love that the guy wanted to fight you.

Seems like he took the "Boston" part of "Boston market" a bit too literally. Only in Boston is it acceptable - nay, encouraged - to fistfight a woman over a minor verbal altercation. But anywhere else it's generally frowned upon. Bunch'a savages up there.

Yeah, I think he thought he was in Boston instead of Joisey.

I was kind of startled that he came back to me after the first round, which he basically won. It seemed like he was waiting for us to finish eating so he could pounce on me. Maybe he was just trying to scare me, and wasn't really going to fight? It seemed like he was all pumped up to do it, though, and in the parking lot. The hell, man.

He was the one being a complete dickbag originally too. I just said out loud what everyone else was thinking.

*DarkFell* · 07-19-2022, 10:25 AM

^ I had a similar situation just recently on the job-site that I was at. No fist blows, just bad behavior and general apathy about it. A change in location was enough for me, plus it's closer to home!

Anyway...

I'm recouping from my minor surgery and my skin doesn't like the glue or the dissolvable stitches either. I'll make it.

A couple of kitties that I found at my former workplace, eventually went to a foster care program at an animal shelter. I hope that they get the help that they need, but I still miss them dearly.

*IndigoErth* · 07-19-2022, 02:24 PM

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When I worked at Target, this was a VERY common occurrence. In fact, the nights when this didn't happen were much rarer than not. I used to have quite a few closing shifts, which I dreaded since I didn't want to have to stay behind for twenty minutes babysitting bratty old people that came in literally a minute before closing.

Hated those people. Some of them were likewise sometimes there 20 min past closing at my old job. It got to the point the manager would start shutting off the lights and escalator shortly after closing to try to give the stranglers the damn hint...and some idiots still wouldn't take it.

superstaff · 07-19-2022, 02:26 PM

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Hated those people. Some of them were likewise sometimes there 20 min past closing at my old job. It got to the point the manager would start shutting off the lights and escalator shortly after closing to try to give the stranglers the damn hint...and some idiots still wouldn't take it.

Yeah.

We did that at Target as well. We'd turn off the lights at exactly 10pm (or whatever the closing time was), and make multiple announcements through the speakers. Nope. They wouldn't care. Off they'd go to casually wander the store like normal, taking their sweet time.

~~Leo656~~ · 07-21-2022, 10:31 PM

SO. More and more, finding out things I wish I never knew about my niece. You may recall, I've mentioned before how she was raped as a teenager, but worse, feels like she "deserved" it or that it "had to happen" because she's SUPER Church-y and thinks every single thing that happens is because God wanted it that way.

And that she thinks even little children who are raped need to carry the rape babies - even if birthing them will kill the mother - because "That's how God wants it to be, we need to trust in it."

Turns out it's even worse than I thought.

She and my wife have been having a... "discussion" through FB texts for a few days, and some choice things have come out.

- She "knows for a fact" that the entire universe was only created in seven days. "It says it right there in the Bible." Not a metaphor, not symbolism... literally Seven Days To Create All of Existence.

- She thinks the universe is only about 5000 years old. Dinosaurs never existed. It's all just lies from Satan to trick and confuse us.

- "All 'science' is a bunch of lies. The only truth is God's Truth. All these so-called scientists are gonna find out in a big damn hurry soon enough that they're wasting their time, and they'll be judged and cast down to Hell for misleading people." WOW.

- Only married people should have sex, and only ever to make a baby. All other sex is a sin. When reminded that she and her boyfriend have sex, she just says "I never said we were perfect."

- This one's great: Any second of the day you're not "glorifying God", you're walking the path straight to Hell. She literally said "Playing video games is a sin, because you're not glorifying God in those moments. You're supposed to glorify God every moment you're awake or else you risk Hell."

- From that, basically ANY thing a person does to make themselves happy is "sending them to Hell". Because as SHE tells it, "You're supposed to suffer and be miserable in THIS life to earn happiness in the next life." Any happiness is a sin. You "can't" be happy until you die and get to Heaven. It's "sinful" and "denying God" if you want to be happy at all while you're alive.

- People deserve the bad things that happen to them because "Obviously they don't glorify God enough. God punishes the wicked, so if (Insert Horrible Thing Here) happens it's because people deserved it."

- She says her specific flavor of Christianity teaches judgment of all non-believers and people of different faiths; "They're wicked, Judge Them". She pointed out she's technically not even supposed to talk to me or my wife, because we're agnostic/atheist, and thus we're supposed to be shunned entirely. "I only break the rules because you're 'family'," she says. BUT she thinks we're awful people and 100% going to Hell.

- My wife actually Googled a bunch of stuff The Bible Actually Says, and - Spoiler Alert! - it's actually the polar opposite of what SHE thinks it says. Especially the part where the Bible tells you NOT to judge anyone... naturally, she got pissed off and said "Don't you dare quote the Bible to ME, *I* know what it says!"

- She even thinks... (Deep breath) She thinks that animals only kill and eat each other in nature, because they're following the bad example humans set.

Like, she literally said that. "Nature" and "the food chain" is all bullsh*t. The planet is 5000 years old and all species held hands (or paws) and sang songs to each other, until human beings showed up with their wicked ways and THAT is why animal species are Predators and Prey. It's All OUR Fault.

You can't MAKE this sh*t up.

So, anyways, yeah, they still talk a little bit but I can see that stopping very soon, because my wife is like, "DUDE, this is insane!" And she's running out of things to say without calling my niece a moron or a retard, because... well, as much as it hurts to say it, she IS a moron and a retard.

Like, you HAVE to be, to think All That Sh*t.

But it explains why even though we used to be super close, she doesn't talk to me much and we haven't seen her in a decade. "I can't be around people who don't live to glorify God."

She's 22, by the way, and this sh*t blows my mind. So much for "The younger generation is smarter and wiser and more enlightened, they're gonna fix the world and everything will be Just Fine."

Nah, man, nah. Rarely in my entire LIFE have I seen anyone so completely f*cking brainwashed and bamboozled. "People deserve to be raped"? "You HAVE to be miserable in this life or else you go to Hell"? "The universe is only 5000 years old"? "Animals only eat each other because human beings have war"?

WHAT. The ACTUAL. F*CK.

And what's worse, is the conviction of the idiocy. "I KNOW this is true. I KNOW for a FACT the universe was created in seven days, so don't you try and brainwash ME!"

You know when you "know something for a fact"? When you can see it, hold it, measure it, and prove it. THEN you "know for a fact". Otherwise, you THINK or you BELIEVE. But you DON'T KNOW. It is impossible to "know something for a fact" without Actual Physical Proof. Which is why I almost never label myself an outright "atheist"; Evidence says, there's no God and never was. BUT, for all I know there might be. In my heart and mind, I "know" there's no God, and nothing short of God himself appearing before me would ever change my mind in this life. BUT, do I know it "for a fact"? No, I can't disprove it. It's what I believe, and I have a mountain of evidence on my side while a believer only has "faith" and fairy tales to support their side... but hey, anything is technically possible.

So sad. I had hoped that in spite of a bad upbringing she might turn out to be a decent, reasonable person. Instead... Wow. Like I have legit had conversations with crusty old racist battleaxe people who didn't have such screwy and ass-backwards beliefs as SHE does. She's speaking Literal Insanity while telling my wife and I we're bad people because we don't think the Earth is only 5000 years old and that women deserve to be raped.

This is why every time anyone says, "You HAVE to respect a person's religious beliefs" I throw up in my mouth a little bit. No, I DON'T have to, and I won't. You know how they say "Love the Sinner, not the Sin"? Well, I can respect anyone as a human being but I REFUSE to respect this kind of horse sh*t from ANYONE.

So I guess I'm never gonna se my niece again, since she's "forbidden" from even seeing us anyway.

Shame, but it's whatever. Anyone who thinks or believes the nonsense she's into, I don't have any time for anyway, "family" or no.

So "enlightened", these f*cking people. It's a cult! I mean whatever "church" she went and got herself into... yeah, not even a joke, that is A Cult.

What a time to be alive.

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 07-21-2022, 10:41 PM

Your niece sounds like an interesting person. I've always gotten along well with traditional Christians.

~~Leo656~~ · 07-21-2022, 11:20 PM

Anyone who thinks the Earth is flat and that women deserve to be raped should be hit by a f*cking bus.

Clearly, they would deserve it, otherwise God would steer the bus in another direction.

*Cowabung-Gal* · 07-21-2022, 11:32 PM

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- "All 'science' is a bunch of lies. The only truth is God's Truth

Well, I’d say that science actually glorifies God, not debunk His existence like how some “scientists” try to.

~~Leo656~~ · 07-22-2022, 12:23 AM

I'm agnostic as Hell and I think any devout "belief" from either side is incredibly arrogant. Nobody "knows" anything they can't prove.

I can't disprove God, so I'm not comfortable labeling myself or being labeled as an atheist. That would be just as arrogant as someone who believes with their entire heart, sight-unseen. I think to say you "know" something based on your own faith in your conviction is wrong. I "know" it's perfectly fine to kill someone if they're making your life miserable, for example. But me "knowing" and believing that with all my heart doesn't mean that I'm not gonna be completely outvoted on that subject.

But I definitely know the Earth isn't 5000 years old and I know there were dinosaurs and I know that if it's all "tricks by Satan to confuse us" then Satan has the worst long game ever.

I also know women and children don't deserve to be raped. Or have rape babies. It's bad enough when MEN say that kinda goofy sh*t, but WOMEN? For f*ck's sake, talk about drinking the f*cking Kool-Aid.

It's whatever, the kid had a bad life and she's trying to find anything she can cling to to find "meaning" in all the suffering. I get it, I just don't approve. She met some guy and he dragged her to a church and it was the wrong one and now she's mind-f*cked. It's unfortunate. But it happens every day. I've said before, the most-devout people come in two flavors: People who have had very easy lives, who become devout because they were given everything they ever asked for and so obviously God loves them... OR, people who have awful lives, and they cling to God because "It HAS to be for a reason!" or else they'd kill themselves. My niece is in the latter group.

There are MANY religious people who fall in-between the extremes, but in my extensive experience those are the two extremes of Devout Belief. Those who have Everything, and those that have Nothing. They're the ones most-convinced they have all the answers and don't you dare question it.

I just know once you start telling me that women and kids deserve to be raped because they didn't go to Church enough, or that rapists and pedophiles still get into Heaven because they said "sorry"... I'm done with that person and the entire conversation.

*IndigoErth* · 07-22-2022, 12:29 PM

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- This one's great: Any second of the day you're not "glorifying God", you're walking the path straight to Hell. She literally said "Playing video games is a sin, because you're not glorifying God in those moments. You're supposed to glorify God every moment you're awake or else you risk Hell."

Yeah... those are the people who end up on some island compound and drinking the juice.

I don't care if it's religion or Ninja Turtles, being SO obsessively devoted to a thing 24/7 would become exhausting real fast. No wonder some people lose their damn minds.

Can she really say she spends all her time devoted? Or is it the old judging others but excuse thyself game..? After all, how does she control it in her sleep? Those are still thoughts happening in your head. I bet she sometimes has dreams that might feature themes that actually aren't religious. Oops.

~~Leo656~~ · 07-22-2022, 02:08 PM

I think people have the right to be be happy, first and foremost. Y'know. In case we only do get one shot at this gig. If there's a God and he cares at all, I don't think he wants us to die miserable. I have in fact been told by several pastors and such that this is not the case at all. I happen to believe them, as they seem to know stuff. They sure don't seem half as "Doom & Gloom" as The Other Guys, that's for sure.

joe-eyeball · 07-22-2022, 02:59 PM

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I think people have the right to be be happy, first and foremost. Y'know. In case we only do get one shot at this gig. If there's a God and he cares at all, I don't think he wants us to die miserable. I have in fact been told by several pastors and such that this is not the case at all. I happen to believe them, as they seem to know stuff. They sure don't seem half as "Doom & Gloom" as The Other Guys, that's for sure.

Heck you’re in the wrestling business and in many ways religion business isn’t any different. There are faces and heels. Bookers and marks. A lot of these “Houses of God” need those marks so they can keep the collection plate full so they can buy a new Cadillac every three years and such.

Many Churches have good intentions and religion can fill those holes that people have in their lives and give themselves hope and meaning. And like you said it’s the extremes that muck it all up for the people who at least mean well.

I come from a large Catholic family and we have few really devoted all in types and I steer clear of them whenever I see them! It only took 7 years of Catholic schooling for me to figure out that religion really wasn’t for me. Like you, I choose to be agnostic most of the time but every now and then when I cross paths with a religious fanatic I’ve been known to embrace the atheist side a little more!

*Coola Yagami* · 07-22-2022, 03:10 PM

I'm Catholic to a degree but you'd never know it cause I hardly ever bring it up (how would one bring it up in a nonreligious conversation anyway, yeah, Alexa Bliss probably shaves her cooter but hey have you read any good Bible verses lately?"

My faith is really no one's business and I have no reason to want to 'save' anyone. The bible was back then but nowadays no one wants to be bothered by church talk so I'm not going to bother people and try to 'convert' them.

~~mrmaczaps~~ · 07-22-2022, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by joe-eyeball

Heck you’re in the wrestling business and in many ways religion business isn’t any different. There are faces and heels. Bookers and marks. A lot of these “Houses of God” need those marks so they can keep the collection plate full so they can buy a new Cadillac every three years and such.

Many Churches have good intentions and religion can fill those holes that people have in their lives and give themselves hope and meaning. And like you said it’s the extremes that muck it all up for the people who at least mean well.

I come from a large Catholic family and we have few really devoted all in types and I steer clear of them whenever I see them! It only took 7 years of Catholic schooling for me to figure out that religion really wasn’t for me. Like you, I choose to be agnostic most of the time but every now and then when I cross paths with a religious fanatic I’ve been known to embrace the atheist side a little more!

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I'm Catholic to a degree but you'd never know it cause I hardly ever bring it up (how would one bring it up in a nonreligious conversation anyway, yeah, Alexa Bliss probably shaves her cooter but hey have you read any good Bible verses lately?"

My faith is really no one's business and I have no reason to want to 'save' anyone. The bible was back then but nowadays no one wants to be bothered by church talk so I'm not going to bother people and try to 'convert' them.

Catholicism is baal worship. Just because a preacher is bad or a few church goers, doesn't make God bad or the problem.

Whats that about a shaved cooter? Doesn't everyone these days?

~~Leo656~~ · 07-23-2022, 04:37 PM

This 100-degree sh*t can go ahead and take a break now, thanks.

*IndigoErth* · 07-24-2022, 12:24 AM

Agree. Looks like it might be cooler around here (at least where I'm at) in lower 80s for Tues then right back up in the 90s...

Sunday (okay technically today)... supposed to be 99, humid, feel like 107, and Sunday night still only "down" to 81. Wtf. Glad it's not as bad as Europe with no AC, but still.

edit: When I checked temps around 8 or 9pm we were still at 88 and Miami, FL was 84. What.

~~Leo656~~ · 07-24-2022, 12:41 AM

My wife didn't like that I yelled at her. Went to the cops, filed a false report, and got a Temporary Restraining Order. I'm at the police station waiting for a ride.

I might never get to go home or see my dog again.

*Coola Yagami* · 07-24-2022, 12:58 AM

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My wife didn't like that I yelled at her. Went to the cops, filed a false report, and got a Temporary Restraining Order. I'm at the police station waiting for a ride.

I might never get to go home or see my dog again.

What the ****???? Where will you live if you're not allowed to stay home?

Also what in the **** if your wife's problem? She's ****in insane and doesn't understand the consequences of her actions. Like this isn't a joking matter. You won't have a place to stay because of her.

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 07-24-2022, 01:24 AM

Why did you yell at her? Not demanding answers but my curiousity is peaked, that's all.

Stay safe.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-24-2022, 01:42 AM

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My wife didn't like that I yelled at her. Went to the cops, filed a false report, and got a Temporary Restraining Order. I'm at the police station waiting for a ride.

I might never get to go home or see my dog again.

Yeah. Been there. "Believe all women" my eye. She'll probably be overly apologetic in a few. You shouldn't give in but you will (I did).

07-21-2022, 11:20 PM	#9447
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Anyone who thinks the Earth is flat and that women deserve to be raped should be hit by a fcking bus. Clearly, they would deserve it, otherwise God would steer the bus in another direction. Last edited by Leo656; 07-21-2022 at 11:29 PM.*

07-22-2022, 03:10 PM	#9453
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07-21-2022, 10:31 PM	#9445
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	SO. More and more, finding out things I wish I never knew about my niece. You may recall, I've mentioned before how she was raped as a teenager, but worse, feels like she "deserved" it or that it "had to happen" because she's SUPER Church-y and thinks every single thing that happens is because God wanted it that way. And that she thinks even little children who are raped need to carry the rape babies - even if birthing them will kill the mother - because "That's how God wants it to be, we need to trust in it." Turns out it's even worse than I thought. She and my wife have been having a... "discussion" through FB texts for a few days, and some choice things have come out. - She "knows for a fact" that the entire universe was only created in seven days. "It says it right there in the Bible." Not a metaphor, not symbolism... literally Seven Days To Create All of Existence. - She thinks the universe is only about 5000 years old. Dinosaurs never existed. It's all just lies from Satan to trick and confuse us. - "All 'science' is a bunch of lies. The only truth is God's Truth. All these so-called scientists are gonna find out in a big damn hurry soon enough that they're wasting their time, and they'll be judged and cast down to Hell for misleading people." WOW. - Only married people should have sex, and only ever to make a baby. All other sex is a sin. When reminded that she and her boyfriend have sex, she just says "I never said we were perfect." - This one's great: Any second of the day you're not "glorifying God", you're walking the path straight to Hell. She literally said "Playing video games is a sin, because you're not glorifying God in those moments. You're supposed to glorify God every moment you're awake or else you risk Hell." - From that, basically ANY thing a person does to make themselves happy is "sending them to Hell". Because as SHE tells it, "You're supposed to suffer and be miserable in THIS life to earn happiness in the next life." Any happiness is a sin. You "can't" be happy until you die and get to Heaven. It's "sinful" and "denying God" if you want to be happy at all while you're alive. - People deserve the bad things that happen to them because "Obviously they don't glorify God enough. God punishes the wicked, so if (Insert Horrible Thing Here) happens it's because people deserved it." - She says her specific flavor of Christianity teaches judgment of all non-believers and people of different faiths; "They're wicked, Judge Them". She pointed out she's technically not even supposed to talk to me or my wife, because we're agnostic/atheist, and thus we're supposed to be shunned entirely. "I only break the rules because you're 'family'," she says. BUT she thinks we're awful people and 100% going to Hell. - My wife actually Googled a bunch of stuff The Bible Actually Says, and - Spoiler Alert! - it's actually the polar opposite of what SHE thinks it says. Especially the part where the Bible tells you NOT to judge anyone... naturally, she got pissed off and said "Don't you dare quote the Bible to ME, I know what it says!" - She even thinks... (Deep breath) She thinks that animals only kill and eat each other in nature, because they're following the bad example humans set. Like, she literally said that. "Nature" and "the food chain" is all bullsht. The planet is 5000 years old and all species held hands (or paws) and sang songs to each other, until human beings showed up with their wicked ways and THAT is why animal species are Predators and Prey. It's All OUR Fault. You can't MAKE this sht up. So, anyways, yeah, they still talk a little bit but I can see that stopping very soon, because my wife is like, "DUDE, this is insane!" And she's running out of things to say without calling my niece a moron or a retard, because... well, as much as it hurts to say it, she IS a moron and a retard. Like, you HAVE to be, to think All That Sht. But it explains why even though we used to be super close, she doesn't talk to me much and we haven't seen her in a decade. "I can't be around people who don't live to glorify God." She's 22, by the way, and this sht blows my mind. So much for "The younger generation is smarter and wiser and more enlightened, they're gonna fix the world and everything will be Just Fine." Nah, man, nah. Rarely in my entire LIFE have I seen anyone so completely fcking brainwashed and bamboozled. "People deserve to be raped"? "You HAVE to be miserable in this life or else you go to Hell"? "The universe is only 5000 years old"? "Animals only eat each other because human beings have war"? WHAT. The ACTUAL. FCK.** And what's worse, is the conviction of the idiocy. "I KNOW this is true. I KNOW for a FACT the universe was created in seven days, so don't you try and brainwash ME!" You know when you "know something for a fact"? When you can see it, hold it, measure it, and prove it. THEN you "know for a fact". Otherwise, you THINK or you BELIEVE. But you DON'T KNOW. It is impossible to "know something for a fact" without Actual Physical Proof. Which is why I almost never label myself an outright "atheist"; Evidence says, there's no God and never was. BUT, for all I know there might be. In my heart and mind, I "know" there's no God, and nothing short of God himself appearing before me would ever change my mind in this life. BUT, do I know it "for a fact"? No, I can't disprove it. It's what I believe, and I have a mountain of evidence on my side while a believer only has "faith" and fairy tales to support their side... but hey, anything is technically possible. So sad. I had hoped that in spite of a bad upbringing she might turn out to be a decent, reasonable person. Instead... Wow. Like I have legit had conversations with crusty old racist battleaxe people who didn't have such screwy and ass-backwards beliefs as SHE does. She's speaking Literal Insanity while telling my wife and I we're bad people because we don't think the Earth is only 5000 years old and that women deserve to be raped. This is why every time anyone says, "You HAVE to respect a person's religious beliefs" I throw up in my mouth a little bit. No, I DON'T have to, and I won't. You know how they say "Love the Sinner, not the Sin"? Well, I can respect anyone as a human being but I REFUSE to respect this kind of horse sht from ANYONE. So I guess I'm never gonna se my niece again, since she's "forbidden" from even seeing us anyway. Shame, but it's whatever. Anyone who thinks or believes the nonsense she's into, I don't have any time for anyway, "family" or no. So "enlightened", these fcking people. It's a cult! I mean whatever "church" she went and got herself into... yeah, not even a joke, that is A Cult. What a time to be alive.

07-22-2022, 12:23 AM	#9449
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I'm agnostic as Hell and I think any devout "belief" from either side is incredibly arrogant. Nobody "knows" anything they can't prove. I can't disprove God, so I'm not comfortable labeling myself or being labeled as an atheist. That would be just as arrogant as someone who believes with their entire heart, sight-unseen. I think to say you "know" something based on your own faith in your conviction is wrong. I "know" it's perfectly fine to kill someone if they're making your life miserable, for example. But me "knowing" and believing that with all my heart doesn't mean that I'm not gonna be completely outvoted on that subject. But I definitely know the Earth isn't 5000 years old and I know there were dinosaurs and I know that if it's all "tricks by Satan to confuse us" then Satan has the worst long game ever. I also know women and children don't deserve to be raped. Or have rape babies. It's bad enough when MEN say that kinda goofy sht, but WOMEN? For fck's sake, talk about drinking the fcking Kool-Aid. It's whatever, the kid had a bad life and she's trying to find anything she can cling to to find "meaning" in all the suffering. I get it, I just don't approve. She met some guy and he dragged her to a church and it was the wrong one and now she's mind-fcked. It's unfortunate. But it happens every day. I've said before, the most-devout people come in two flavors: People who have had very easy lives, who become devout because they were given everything they ever asked for and so obviously God loves them... OR, people who have awful lives, and they cling to God because "It HAS to be for a reason!" or else they'd kill themselves. My niece is in the latter group. There are MANY religious people who fall in-between the extremes, but in my extensive experience those are the two extremes of Devout Belief. Those who have Everything, and those that have Nothing. They're the ones most-convinced they have all the answers and don't you dare question it. I just know once you start telling me that women and kids deserve to be raped because they didn't go to Church enough, or that rapists and pedophiles still get into Heaven because they said "sorry"... I'm done with that person and the entire conversation.

07-22-2022, 02:08 PM	#9451
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I think people have the right to be be happy, first and foremost. Y'know. In case we only do get one shot at this gig. If there's a God and he cares at all, I don't think he wants us to die miserable. I have in fact been told by several pastors and such that this is not the case at all. I happen to believe them, as they seem to know stuff. They sure don't seem half as "Doom & Gloom" as The Other Guys, that's for sure.

07-23-2022, 04:37 PM	#9455
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	This 100-degree sh*t can go ahead and take a break now, thanks.

07-24-2022, 12:24 AM	#9456
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,296	Agree. Looks like it might be cooler around here (at least where I'm at) in lower 80s for Tues then right back up in the 90s... Sunday (okay technically today)... supposed to be 99, humid, feel like 107, and Sunday night still only "down" to 81. Wtf. Glad it's not as bad as Europe with no AC, but still. edit: When I checked temps around 8 or 9pm we were still at 88 and Miami, FL was 84. What.

07-24-2022, 12:41 AM	#9457
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	My wife didn't like that I yelled at her. Went to the cops, filed a false report, and got a Temporary Restraining Order. I'm at the police station waiting for a ride. I might never get to go home or see my dog again.