Official Justice League Movie

[ZariusTwo]

The meltdowns from turds like Film Junkee over this are glorious.

[superstaff]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

The meltdowns from turds like Film Junkee over this are glorious.

Over the Twitter bots?

Why?

[NinjaPug]

The bots thing is the least egregious part of that article to me.

Knew Snyder was part of Fisher's attempted BS takedown of Whedon, Johns and others at WB. There's a reason there was never a specific complaint from Fisher. Instead we got vague tweets with snarky hashtags over and over.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

The bots thing is the least egregious part of that article to me.

Knew Snyder was part of Fisher's attempted BS takedown of Whedon, Johns and others at WB. There's a reason there was never a specific complaint from Fisher. Instead we got vague tweets with snarky hashtags over and over.

Ray Fisher responded to the Rolling Stone article.
https://twitter.com/ray8fisher/statu...03279154716673

.
@RollingStone
and
@TatianaSiegel27
need to amend this article immediately!

Neither myself, nor anyone on my team, EVER “declined to comment to Rolling Stone.”

Furthermore, this type of rumor-mill reporting is offensive, dangerous, and willfully evasive of fact.

A>E

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Ray Fisher responded to the Rolling Stone article.
https://twitter.com/ray8fisher/statu...03279154716673

Except that’s not true. Rolling Stone replied with a screenshot of the emails they sent him.

So Fisher back peddled and pointed out how they changed the deadline date for the when they article would be posted, in the email they sent to him.

But they still sent it and he didn’t reply for comment.

Ray Fisher is a joke.

And yeah, it became pretty obvious he was doing Snyder’s bidding pretty much from the start. The guy is loyal to Zack, who basically picked him from obscurity. Zack definitely got lost in vengeance. Sad.

[Andrew NDB]

Definitely Cryborg is in the ear of Zack, and vice versa. These things can't be coincidences.

But man, this is complicated. And people are weird. It seems like it's either "We want Zack back entirely! For everything forever! The Knightmare movieverse!" or nothing. I want a middle ground. Sure, give him a proper Justice League 2, but first "Superman" (Man of Steel 2) and let's chop way down that weird original plan into something more organic to people being able to care about it. If you think years of DC movies need to be all about some kind of post-apocalyptic alternate universe before barely anyone involved is even established... I don't know what to tell you. You're wrong. This will fail. Doing Avengers in reverse with Justice League was a worthy experiment like making Lex into Zuckerberg... but both things seemed to have failed.

[superstaff]

I vaguely remember WB claiming that Whedon and Snyder were BFFs, and Whedon was finishing up Justice League as a 'favor' to Snyder, with Snyder's blessing. I think I also remember Snyder wishing him the best on the project. Clearly, this is not the case in reality, which I always felt was a little...suspect.

I never really believed Fisher's accounts because they seemed inconsistent, and every time people asked for evidence, he'd backtrack or deny. The majority seem to support Fisher as far as I've seen, regardless. The whole situation is basically exactly like a catfight between two popular girls in a high school, gossiping, trying to ruin each other's reputations, practically scratching each other's eyes out, etc. I think Whedon and Snyder are probably both scuzzy, and Fisher is just Snyder and WB's lackey here. For the record, I actually think Whedon and Snyder are talented directors, even if I don't like all of their movies/shows. But...they seem like Hollywood d-bags, aka two popular girls in a high school that drag everyone into their petty squabbles.

So this is just like with the Depp-Heard thing, to me. I think neither 'side' is innocent here.

[AquaParade]

Depp Heard thing is different because one of them is an abuser, and is also trying every trick under the sun to undermine the verdict, by trying to gaslight anyone who watches cable but decided to skip out on the trial.
I guess I just can’t listen to anyone who relied on social media and tv to get their info from that one.

I’d say the only way it’s related to this case, Hamada has to deal with the headache of both.

[superstaff]

Nah. All of these people live in a different world from ours. Depp, Heard, Snyder, Whedon, Fisher. One big club that none of us are in. I don't think any of these people are victims. A lot of guys here seem to side with Whedon or Snyder or whatever. I don't think any of them care about us, just our wallets. I'm sure you/someone else will jump down my throat with a "HOW DARE YOU NOT SUPPORT WHEDON/SNYDER/FISHER/WHATEVER" soon enough.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by superstaff

I vaguely remember WB claiming that Whedon and Snyder were BFFs, and Whedon was finishing up Justice League as a 'favor' to Snyder, with Snyder's blessing. I think I also remember Snyder wishing him the best on the project. Clearly, this is not the case in reality, which I always felt was a little...suspect.

I remember a snippet of that, but it always read as wrong. Justice League was filming riiiight when WB was getting all the blowback about BvS being a gloomy mess. Clearly Snyder was fired (and remember, this "firing" happened after it was already shot) and "he needs to go and grieve now, like right now" was the way for him to save face in public beyond whatever monetary severance was agreed.

[superstaff]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I remember a snippet of that, but it always read as wrong. Justice League was filming riiiight when WB was getting all the blowback about BvS being a gloomy mess. Clearly Snyder was fired (and remember, this "firing" happened after it was already shot) and "he needs to go and grieve now, like right now" was the way for him to save face in public beyond whatever monetary severance was agreed.

Yeah. I know.

It was pretty obvious that they fired him. The only off thing was that this happened around the time Snyder's daughter committed suicide, so the studio and media painted the picture that Snyder voluntarily left, handed the reins over to Whedon, and they were all okay with this. I knew the whole thing stunk from the get-go, that it wasn't as cutesy-poopsy as some of the fans thought it was. But, uh, oh well? I think it's obvious that this wasn't the case now.

The timing of Snyder's daughter's death is what seems odd, to me. Did they really just swoop in, and decide to use it as an excuse? What would've happened otherwise? What excuse would they have used instead?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by superstaff

The timing of Snyder's daughter's death is what seems odd, to me. Did they really just swoop in, and decide to use it as an excuse?

Probably it was laid out to him as an option from legal. "Here is a bag of money. We understand you will want to take some time to grieve for your daughter, etc. You do, right? Right? Now just sign this paper."

And if I recall, her actual death was a decent amount of time before "Zack has to drop everything and go and grieve, guys!" was a thing.

What would've happened otherwise? What excuse would they have used instead?

"Parted ways due to creative differences."

[superstaff]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

And if I recall, her actual death was a decent amount of time before "Zack has to drop everything and go and grieve, guys!" was a thing.

That explains it.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by superstaff

Nah. All of these people live in a different world from ours. Depp, Heard, Snyder, Whedon, Fisher. One big club that none of us are in. I don't think any of these people are victims. A lot of guys here seem to side with Whedon or Snyder or whatever. I don't think any of them care about us, just our wallets. I'm sure you/someone else will jump down my throat with a "HOW DARE YOU NOT SUPPORT WHEDON/SNYDER/FISHER/WHATEVER" soon enough.

Yes, they live in a different world than us.

No, it doesn't excuse all notion of guilty vs innocent.

I mean, that's just wild.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by superstaff

Nah. All of these people live in a different world from ours. Depp, Heard, Snyder, Whedon, Fisher. One big club that none of us are in. I don't think any of these people are victims. A lot of guys here seem to side with Whedon or Snyder or whatever. I don't think any of them care about us, just our wallets. I'm sure you/someone else will jump down my throat with a "HOW DARE YOU NOT SUPPORT WHEDON/SNYDER/FISHER/WHATEVER" soon enough.

Amazing demonstration of empathy. Or rather lack of thereof. I bet, I will hear some excuses about your bad childhood and tough upbringing...

Its almost like you think, that having enough money makes one inhuman and rids of all their problems.

[AquaParade]

Sounds like pure emotion and zero logic, to me.

[superstaff]

Cool. Nice to see I can still depend on you guys treating me like utter sh*t. Yet many of you have the gall to say 'lol we all wuff you, bruh' and 'your opinions are totally validated here'.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by superstaff

Nah. All of these people live in a different world from ours. Depp, Heard, Snyder, Whedon, Fisher. One big club that none of us are in. I don't think any of these people are victims. A lot of guys here seem to side with Whedon or Snyder or whatever. I don't think any of them care about us, just our wallets. I'm sure you/someone else will jump down my throat with a "HOW DARE YOU NOT SUPPORT WHEDON/SNYDER/FISHER/WHATEVER" soon enough.

Originally Posted by superstaff

Cool. Nice to see I can still depend on you guys treating me like utter sh*t. Yet many of you have the gall to say 'lol we all wuff you, bruh' and 'your opinions are totally validated here'.

I feel like you are fine giving a bit of attitude, but don't like receiving any.

Anyway, no hard feelings on my end. I enjoy discussing, and if my reaction to your post was offensive, sorry. Was just a strong disagreement.

[superstaff]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

I feel like you are fine giving a bit of attitude, but don't like receiving any.

I'm sure 99.9% of the population would agree with you on that.

Anyway, no hard feelings on my end. I enjoy discussing, and if my reaction to your post was offensive, sorry. Was just a strong disagreement.

Kinda funny since you always seem to cop some sort of attitude towards me even when we sorta agreed like in that recent Thor thread.

But sure, thanks. Appreciate the apology. Sorry on my end as well.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by superstaff

I'm sure 99.9% of the population would agree with you on that.



Kinda funny since you always seem to cop some sort of attitude towards me even when we sorta agreed like in that recent Thor thread.

But sure, thanks. Appreciate the apology. Sorry on my end as well.

Idk I think there might be a perception issue or miscommunication, bc I didn't think I had attitude at all in the Thor thread. Felt like healthy back n forth to me. Anyway.