Warner Brothers Discovery Conference Call With David Zaslav

[Autbot_Benz]

Main take away from the call.

HBO Max and Discovery will combine into one streaming service. There will be a free version with ads and a paid version summer 2023.


Zaslav says he has a 10 year plan for DC Movies

he is excited for Black Adam Shazam 2 and The Flash to be released.

He considers The Trinity ( Batman Superman and Wonder Woman) some of their big franchises

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[NinjaPug]

Don’t care about another 10 yr plan that likely won’t come to fruition. I don’t like them cutting back on animation though.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Don’t care about another 10 yr plan that likely won’t come to fruition. I don’t like them cutting back on animation though.

Yeah it's ironic because DC animation is damn near unsurpassed. Especially with such a now-large back catalog.

[The Deadman]

Part of that 10 year DC plan is cancelling movies that were supposed to come out this year.

[Autbot_Benz]

I bet those black superman movies won't see the light of day under Zaslav.

[CyberCubed]

There's no 10 year plan. The Matt Reeve's Batman movies will get at least a trilogy but that's it.

The remaining movies are actually all part of the Snyderverse, so Black Adam, Aquaman 2, Shazam 2, Flash and Wonder Woman 3 are technically all part of the same universe they want to reboot.

[Andrew NDB]

I really think we're going to get a proper Superman movie out of this. Maybe a proper Batman movie, too. Will it be with Affleck and Cavill? I don't know.

[AquaParade]

Zaslav loves Reeve’s The Batman. He wants more stuff like that.

A Superman movie is definitely in the cards. Why not a Batman x Superman team up movie with Cavill & Affleck. Let it be the inverse to Batman v Superman. Either way, hopefully they give Cavill something.

[The Deadman]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I really think we're going to get a proper Superman movie out of this. Maybe a proper Batman movie, too. Will it be with Affleck and Cavill? I don't know.

There was nothing wrong with the last Batman movie.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by The Deadman

There was nothing wrong with the last Batman movie.

He’s got to bring up how much he dislikes it any chance he gets. It’s a little much.

Movie has pacing issues for sure, but yeah, it’s quality product. And Zaslav has praised it several times over. It’s not Nolan’s Batman, but it’s the next best thing, quite honestly.

[The Deadman]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

He’s got to bring up how much he dislikes it any chance he gets. It’s a little much.

Movie has pacing issues for sure, but yeah, it’s quality product. And Zaslav has praised it several times over. It’s not Nolan’s Batman, but it’s the next best thing, quite honestly.

I mean it's no Batman & Robin but that's another story for another day.

[RaphaelinSTL]

Originally Posted by The Deadman

There was nothing wrong with the last Batman movie.

The Batman (2022) was the best Bat-related film in over a decade and a half and I'll die on that ****ing hill.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by The Deadman

There was nothing wrong with the last Batman movie.

Plenty wrong with it. See The Batman thread. And I was actually looking forward to it and am a Pattinson fan, believe it or not. He's done some great stuff over the past 15 years or so. This wasn't one of those things.

[AquaParade]

Lol some people were trying to push some narrative that I think Batman is perfect and I’m the only one around here who thinks it’s better than just okay. Glad y’all are making them look silly. It’s def a good movie.

[Andrew NDB]

It has its moments. Between yawns and imagining the better (*cough* Nolan) Batman movies before it that it poor man's cherry picked from. Looking on the positive, I dug the general vibe of the world. It was consistent, maybe achieving better than even what Nolan tried to do and then kind of gave up with TDKR. That only Burton achieved.

Sadly... stupid script. And demonstronably everything lauded about "this is finally Batman being a detective" can be pooled into "oh, he's very stupid." What exactly did he solve without blatant leading in the movie, exactly?

And pushing narratives? Like the one that it would be some kind of juggernaut? It finished far less than BvS, which was critically lampooned. Rightly so, IMHO.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

It has its moments. Between yawns and imagining the better (*cough* Nolan) Batman movies before it that it poor man's cherry picked from. Looking on the positive, I dug the general vibe of the world. It was consistent, maybe achieving better than even what Nolan tried to do and then kind of gave up with TDKR. That only Burton achieved.

Sadly... stupid script. And demonstronably everything lauded about "this is finally Batman being a detective" can be pooled into "oh, he's very stupid." What exactly did he solve without blatant leading in the movie, exactly?

Remember the "Vengeance" scene? When I called it iconic, you claimed that people in your theater were "checking their watches" during this scene....Well that scene is 3 minutes into the movie. Maybe all those people in your audience were checking their watch, three minutes into the movie, but it seems hard to believe.

So, those type of jabs at the movie seem a bit manufactured, if I'm being honest and creates the illusion of a bias.

Batman showed a great side of his detective skills right after that part, when Gordon took him to the crime scene and he was able to both identify wounds and use subtle movements to lead the police to several clues around the room. I love how he made himself useful by slowly making his way around the room to point out clues that no one else was noticing.

So he was definitely showing off more detective skills than we’ve seen in a film before. And in that scene he didn’t have to even say much to show off his intellect - it was great.

As for him making some mistakes, it makes him fallible.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

And pushing narratives? Like the one that it would be some kind of juggernaut? It finished far less than BvS, which was critically lampooned. Rightly so, IMHO.

As for the narrative that the film would be some kind of juggernaut? Do you mean coming from me? I said it would make at least $800m and was barely off. That was the low-end of my prediction, granted, and I def considered it could make $1 billion.

But claiming the film finished "far less than BvS" exposes some ignorance. The Batman was in theaters for merely 6-weeks, with a pre-announced streaming premiere directly after that, and it still nearly caught BvS....which was in theaters for like 5 months....
That makes BvS box office look bad.

Oh, and it was cheaper to produce, cheaper to market, lacked a lead-in movie to build up an audience (Man of Steel), and lacked extra superheroes to increase the box office, like the debut of a Wonder Woman and an extra little Superhero called "Superman".

Not to mention, it left WB in much better standing with critics and audiences than BvS did, which is why JL 2017 fell below expectations. The Batman 2 is set to exceed it’s predecessor.

The Batman was a bigger success for WB than BvS, by far.

And I like BvS quite a bit, don't get me wrong. I mean, it's not Man of Steel, but I can enjoy it.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

the better (*cough* Nolan) Batman movies.

Honestly, the only Nolan movie that's great is The Dark Knight. Begins is average and TDK is best known for the memes about Bane and is an overall terrible movie

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Honestly, the only Nolan movie that's great is The Dark Knight. Begins is average and TDK is best known for the memes about Bane and is an overall terrible movie

I mostly agree with this. The Dark Knight is the only one I love. It’s just so damn good though.

“Begins” is indeed average, but I actually enjoy “Rises”. I’m not even going to try and defend it, because I’m assuming there are a ton of flaws that I’m not even picking up on, but i can just say there are a lot of moments I enjoy.

Bane vs Batman in the sewer was gorgeously shot and managed to feel quite foreboding.

Batman returning after retirement was a cool moment, although it probably could have been more epic.

Batman “sacrificing” himself was an emotional scene for me, even if it didn’t jive with a lot of peoples interpretation of the character. I even think the ending shot of a new Batman rising up in Bruce’s place is awesome.
That’s what allows Bruce to move on, so I really don’t have an issue with this interpretation. Besides, no one says the impulse can’t return someday in Dark Knight Returns fashion.

Anne Hathaway put on a solid performance as Catwoman.

Yeah, I don’t want to defend it as a great movie, like I’d do for The Dark Knight, but it works for me.

“Begins”,on the other, hand has less going for it every time I watch it. It’s still better than many of it’s peers, but feels dated quicker than I would have expected.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

“Begins”,on the other, hand has less going for it every time I watch it. It’s still better than many of it’s peers, but feels dated quicker than I would have expected.

I feel like you could add about twenty minutes of an abridged "Begins" onto to "Rises" as a prelude and that'd be it.

[TigerClaw]

HBO Max will no longer guarantee the 45 day window for Warner Bros movies, They are instead gonna do it on a case by case basis.
https://decider.com/2022/08/05/hbo-m...trical-window/