Better Call Saul

[neatoman]

Oh, I need to make a bit of a retraction here, turns out I misread the information.

Spoiler:

It's not that Kim turned herself in, it's that Saul points out that she might as well turn herself. The implication seems to be that she either has done something or that she is telling Saul to come out of hiding and face justice.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Oh, I need to make a bit of a retraction here, turns out I misread the information.

Spoiler:

It's not that Kim turned herself in, it's that Saul points out that she might as well turn herself. The implication seems to be that she either has done something or that she is telling Saul to come out of hiding and face justice.

Christ, that's even worse.

[Andrew NDB]

Well this second to last episode was a doozy. Gene is almost murderous now. I don't know how we'd get a happy ending at all, at this point.

Spoiler:

And Cybercubed did call it. Kim did marry a random dude.

[neatoman]

You know what's funny? They didn't find Howard's body despite the site of his grave getting a thorough investigation after Walt blew it up.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by neatoman

They didn't find Howard's body despite the site of his grave getting a thorough investigation after Walt blew it up.

Or did they?

https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv...ad-amc-netflix

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Or did they?

https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv...ad-amc-netflix

No, Walt killed two guys who were guarding Jesse and left their bodies in the inferno. Those are clearly the two bodies being referred to, had they found Howard and Lalo, they would have referenced four bodies.

[Andrew NDB]

So that's that.

Spoiler:

Saul is in prison forever and occasionally will get visits from Kim. Meh!

[CyberCubed]

I loved all the final scenes with each character like Mike, Walt and Chuck. They did so much with their characters in those flashbacks especially since they're all dead now. Lots of talk about regrets.

The final arc was Saul reverting back to Jimmy and accepted everything he had done which is why he confessed and brought his sentence from 7 years back to 86. What I also liked is Kim is back on her feet and seems to return to law again and is not ready to stay as a wallflower anymore. Most likely she will leave the waterworks and yup man after this episode and try to get reinstated in law. She also still showed affection for Jimmy and is thankfully not left to rot like her previous ep.

While Jimmy going to jail is predictable I liked how they did it. He's basically a celebrity in jail and will likely help some of the inmates with their law problems. Bob Odenkirk and Rhea Seehorn both said in interviews they believe their characters visit each other regularly after this episode and that Rhea feels Kim is a romantic at heart. So I guess that implies they will always care for one another. Whether Jimmy does the full 80 years essentially the rest of his life in prison or not remains to be seen.

[Andrew NDB]

It would have been good if the 7 years thing had been fully locked in, Saul still does his tell-all, and then we fast forward to 2022 and we get an epilogue of him getting out of prison and Kim waiting there for him.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

It would have been good if the 7 years thing had been fully locked in, Saul still does his tell-all, and then we fast forward to 2022 and we get an epilogue of him getting out of prison and Kim waiting there for him.

... How much "good behavior" would you need to reduce 80 years to 11 years?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by neatoman

... How much "good behavior" would you need to reduce 80 years to 11 years?

I mean, if his deal with the DA for the 7 years was airtight. Meaning, no matter what he said after that, it wouldn't hurt him. As it was, they threw the 7 year deal out the window as soon as he started going on and on about his crimes.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I loved all the final scenes with each character like Mike, Walt and Chuck. They did so much with their characters in those flashbacks especially since they're all dead now. Lots of talk about regrets.

The final arc was Saul reverting back to Jimmy and accepted everything he had done which is why he confessed and brought his sentence from 7 years back to 86. What I also liked is Kim is back on her feet and seems to return to law again and is not ready to stay as a wallflower anymore. Most likely she will leave the waterworks and yup man after this episode and try to get reinstated in law. She also still showed affection for Jimmy and is thankfully not left to rot like her previous ep.

While Jimmy going to jail is predictable I liked how they did it. He's basically a celebrity in jail and will likely help some of the inmates with their law problems. Bob Odenkirk and Rhea Seehorn both said in interviews they believe their characters visit each other regularly after this episode and that Rhea feels Kim is a romantic at heart. So I guess that implies they will always care for one another. Whether Jimmy does the full 80 years essentially the rest of his life in prison or not remains to be seen.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

It would have been good if the 7 years thing had been fully locked in, Saul still does his tell-all, and then we fast forward to 2022 and we get an epilogue of him getting out of prison and Kim waiting there for him.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Most likely she will leave the waterworks and yup man after this episode and try to get reinstated in law.

I thought it was implied that she already was? Before she came in didn't the guard say something about "lawyer"?

Although, even if she was able to be reactivated (or I guess she never was deactivated?)... wouldn't she almost immediately be disbarred? Jimmy got disbarred almost forever just for smashing his brother's cassette tape earlier in the show while Kim just turned in a whole detailed confession to being complicit in a murder cover-up.

[CyberCubed]

She said something about her New Mexico license never expiring, forgot the exact sentence she used without going back to check. But also going to that small time law office to volunteer to help people in need makes it obvious she's going to become a full fledged lawyer again. Her final scene leaving the waterworks made it obvious she wasn't coming back, I only wish we got a scene where she broke up with her Florida boyfriend.

I think a lot of people assumed the writers would leave Kim miserable forever like the previous ep showed, so I'm glad they didn't. Kim's entire character has always been about fixing herself when she's down, "I fix me" as she did several times in past seasons, so it's who she is.

[Andrew NDB]

The showrunner hints that we may get a Kim show one day:

https://www.amc.com/blogs/better-cal...aKAuvqiMkh0GoY

Which is funny because Rhea Seehorn herself was all but saying that had been "talks" at some point or another earlier.

[CyberCubed]

My guess is they'll do another El Camino type of movie for Kim, but I can't see a full series. An epilogue story for Kim and if Jimmy gets out of jail at some point seems like a thing we might see in the next few years.

[Andrew NDB]

It is better. Watch 4 and 5.

[sdp]

I thought Better Call Saul was supposed to be as good as breaking bad? I watched the 3 seasons already and it's disappointing. I mean I enjoy it but it's nothing special and it's not likeI was expecting to watch Breaking Bad, I wanted a Saul show, then again I never understood Breaking Bad autists that think for some reason that's the greatest show ever made. Those autists don't even realize walter white was not a bad guy and did everything for his family, way to miss the ****ing point guys.

Anywho it really takes me out of the story to see all these characters acting like they're young when they're already old as sh-t. I get it that the actors are older than they were in breaking bad and this is a prequel but omg seeing Jimmy in the flashbacks is just odd, hell even if they dim the lights so you know it's a flashback and dress them up, it looks ridiculous like that meme how do you do fellow kids. I like seeing Jimmy be more like Saul so hopefully we get more of that later. The show is also so stretched out, each season could've easily been 5 episodes tops. I love building tension for the pay off but for the silly plots the show has, it doesn't work. I definitely enjoy the show more than what my post might signal, hope it gets better.

Finished watching, seasons 4-6 are a big disappointement and downgrade over S1-3. It stopped being Better Call Saul and became "Breaking Bad Lite: The Prequel". Except it just didn't work and the only great moments in those seasons were stuff that resembled the first 3 seasons more, like wexler v goodman.

The ending was ok, I'm glad they reincorporated Kim into it but I also would've preferred a happy ending for Jimmy. Yeah crime doesn't pay blah blah, but it's the same ending as Breaking Bad, main character wants to pay for his mistakes and make things right for the ones he loves. I agree that they should've pulled a "Jimmy gets 7 years, despite confessing and because of good behavior and overcrowding he's out in 3 and gets back together with Kim". I mean they redeemed Jesse..

I also watched El Camino..what a boring concept for a BB movie, it's just a unnecessary long epilogue and if anything it tries to portray him as a good guy and a victim which couldn't be more wrong, he was definitely far worse than someone like Jimmy. The aging of the characters is super distracting,especially since they do so many flashbacks and even the "present" segments since they technically took place in years before they were filmed, and years before Todd had one too many old country buffets. I'm sure they could've done a better job, people used AI after Rogue One to make a better younger princess Leia in Rogue One and that was from a fan edit in 2016.


Both Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul are overrated as f-ck. But They're still good shows. BCS absolutely nailed it in the Jimmy/Kim dynamic and chemistry, it made the show.

[CyberCubed]

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by sdp

The ending was ok, I'm glad they reincorporated Kim into it but I also would've preferred a happy ending for Jimmy. Yeah crime doesn't pay blah blah, but it's the same ending as Breaking Bad, main character wants to pay for his mistakes and make things right for the ones he loves.

On this point I agree. There had to be a way to semi-redeem him while still giving him a happy ending and NOT have him end up in prison. If someone told me before watching season 1, "In the end, he's going to prison for many years and that's that" I probably would never have started watching.

I also watched El Camino..what a boring concept for a BB movie, it's just a unnecessary long epilogue and if anything it tries to portray him as a good guy and a victim which couldn't be more wrong, he was definitely far worse than someone like Jimmy.

El Camino is a snore, that's true. Sadly. A few nice moments but nothing more, really. There just isn't a lot of meat on the bones. And they really should have waited until the Meth Damon actor could have slimmed down to do it, or just not included that character at all.