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Old 10-12-2022, 11:17 PM   #201
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He had nuance in "Faster." He really impressed me in that. Every other role was basically the same. It also doesn't help that in most of his movies, somehow at some point they have him do at least one Rock Bottom on somebody.
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Old 10-13-2022, 04:53 AM   #202
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The post-credits have leaked and it's everywhere now.

He's got the spit curl
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Old 10-13-2022, 07:06 AM   #203
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Holy sh*t.
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Old 10-13-2022, 07:09 AM   #204
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Leaks made this obvious but can’t get excited for a cameo at the end of a movie.

That’s nice. Still waiting on an actual Superman sequel, which is still years away at best.

I guess as far as announcements go, a cameo isn’t the worst way to do it, but it still doesn’t amount to much, for me.

Glad to hear the movie is solid though. I’ll rent it as soon as I can watch at home.
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Old 10-13-2022, 07:15 AM   #205
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He looks great, hopefully they can get something going sooner rather than later.
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Old 10-13-2022, 07:25 AM   #206
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This feels very MCU.
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Old 10-13-2022, 10:32 AM   #207
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Glad to have Cavill back now get him a Superman movie now.
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Old 10-13-2022, 11:05 AM   #208
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He's got the spit curl
They've given him that since BvS, no?

Looks like the "classic costume" scoop was wrong, unless I'm looking at the wrong leaked footage.
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Old 10-13-2022, 02:26 PM   #209
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No, it was slicked back again in both versions of Justice League, he only had it during the Batman fight in BvS and it was more of a cheeky Easter egg than anything. Not sure why they were hesitant to go with it before now but it admittedly looks pretty good. I'm not altogether wedded to it - George Reeves didn't have it, and neither did Dean Cain, and a lot of artists like John Byrne and even Alex Ross don't go out of their way to make it super prominent anyways. So I can take it or leave it, it's nice when it's there but I'm not incredibly upset when it's not.

As for "The classic suit" I can only imagine people are referring to the colors because it's still mostly the same suit as he's had, from what you can see of it. The red and blue are dialed way up but the color contrast and balance is much better than it was in Whedon's JL. The S shield has been reshaped and re-sized very slightly, when he stands at a certain angle it almost looks like the "classic" version used on merchandise and whatnot, except for the extended flourish near the top. The video I saw has already been taken down, but it's impossible to tell if he's got trunks or anything like that but I'm going to assume No.

So it looks like the same suit just with a slightly redesigned S shield and much brighter colors. Looks good. Very happy with it.
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Old 10-13-2022, 02:51 PM   #210
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I’ve grown to sort of dislike everything Snyder did after Man of Steel, but I’m having a hard time imagining someone nailing the action as well as he did.

That has to be the best third-act action scene in any comic book movie.
I’d like to say it was something with practical effects, but that’s not what you’d need for Superman anyway, and cg battles don’t get better than that one.

They will probably need to go big in terms of getting a director on board we can all trust.
Superman has a lot of cache and WB forms relationships with directors, so… we could end up with a very interesting choice if we are lucky. I mean, I’m imagining the possibility of a big name.

Then again, they could just go back to Snyder, but that’s a whole other can of worms. I’d be for it, but not if it had anything to do with his previous plans. I’m done the evil Superman crap. I’m not talking about tone, which was fine in MoS.
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Old 10-13-2022, 03:05 PM   #211
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Two things are living in my head at the same time about this news -

-incredibly excited for what this could mean for Superman on film going forward
-they had to get this done and out there to sell tickets for this movie
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Old 10-13-2022, 03:06 PM   #212
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My only concern is that whatever they do next with Superman is going to be the polar opposite of what Snyder did and have him act unnaturally happy go lucky in the face of danger like he did at the end of Whedon's Justice League. He was great in Man of Steel and even if he's a lot happier with his role in the world, I still want it to feel grounded. I'm tired of the 1978 Superman being treated like the standard for superhero films or even the garbage we get from the MCU.
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Old 10-13-2022, 03:09 PM   #213
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Hard to disagree with any of that. I mean - I'd like to see him lighten and be more of a hopeful inspiration in personality as opposed to just a "god figure", but yeah definitely that without turning him into f'n Groot or Rocket.
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-they had to get this done and out there to sell tickets for this movie
Yeah this screams "leaked on purpose" to me. It worked, though; I wasn't gonna see it in theatres and now I might, and I know a few other fence-sitters are also now shifting gears. So if it was "leaked on purpose" it's having the desired effect. I know the movie was probably going to do well regardless and this won't make or break it, but they probably want to maximize the potential and the impact. Wouldn't be the first time something like this was done to try and wrangle a few undecideds.

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My only concern is that whatever they do next with Superman is going to be the polar opposite of what Snyder did and have him act unnaturally happy go lucky in the face of danger like he did at the end of Whedon's Justice League. He was great in Man of Steel and even if he's a lot happier with his role in the world, I still want it to feel grounded. I'm tired of the 1978 Superman being treated like the standard for superhero films or even the garbage we get from the MCU.
I agree, and I always have similar concerns, but based on what little we've seen here I am a bit more at ease. He played this one scene with the appropriate gravitas so as long as we have a competent director and not a schmuck like Whedon I think we'll be okay. Fingers crossed, anyways.
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Old 10-13-2022, 03:55 PM   #215
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Yeah this screams "leaked on purpose" to me.
Oh, absolutely. No doubt about it. And look at all the press the movie is suddenly getting left and right about Cavill for days leading up to the "leak."
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Old 10-13-2022, 04:05 PM   #216
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That audience reaction was f*cking awesome, in the one I saw (not sure how many versions of the leak there are). People yelling "COME ON!" before he even appeared, popping huge for just the sound of his voice and getting so loud you couldn't even hear exactly what he said (you can make it out but the crowd definitely roared over the audio to an impressive degree). And then all that sheer fist-pumping jubilation when you finally do see him. That's way better than I'd ever expected to see people react; I wasn't sure how it'd go but that sure was nice to see. I imagine the "Not Impressed" scene in ZSJL would have gotten a similar pop had it run in theaters; too bad we'll never know.

It actually speaks well to the movie itself, I think, that by the end of it people were in such a great mood that they pretty much threw Cavill a parade for popping in and saying two sentences in ten seconds. Like they were with it in the moment, y'know? If they had a bad time for the previous two-hours-whatever they likely wouldn't have been quite so jubilant by the time the post-credits rolled around.

So I know it's just the one thing but I think based on the reaction to the post-credits scene itself that the movie is also probably pretty good, or at least entertaining. I admit, they got me. I went from "Eh, one day" to "Let's hope we can go on opening night" pretty fast, just because my wife hates Spoilers and I really wanna see her ruin the seat in the theater when Cavill shows up. That's gonna be epic.

Also, as usual when I'm wrong about something it works out great for everyone, so yeah, I refused to believe it but that's also probably Why it happened. As always, pretty happy to be wrong. I just hope they have more in the pipeline than they're telling and that we're actually closer to a follow-up than we think.
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Old 10-13-2022, 04:13 PM   #217
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I expect I won't like large chunks of the movie but will forgive a lot of that because of the sheer volume of genuinely "funny moments." That's what I'm thinking.
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Old 10-13-2022, 04:22 PM   #218
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I mostly wanna see Dr. Fate. I'm not really sure how I'll feel about the movie itself but I am very curious as to how they're going to handle the Justice Society, just in general.

I think this movie might be a better indication than Flash, in a sense, as to how the DCU "course correction" is going to be like, moving forward. Flash we know has been butchered to hell and back so many times that it's not even the same movie it was a year ago, so it will be hard to gauge anything solid from that one. This movie might actually be the one to give us a real idea of what to expect in the future. I think Flash was originally intended to be a hard reboot but now might just end up as kind of an outlier/"explore the multiverse" movie without most of its originally-intended consequences, and I think Black Adam will tell us more about how much of the original DCU will be carried over into upcoming stuff.
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Old 10-13-2022, 04:24 PM   #219
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I’m pretty sure the audience reactions are from fan-screenings.
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Old 10-13-2022, 04:27 PM   #220
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Man it's hard to believe next year it'll officially be 10 full years since Man of Steel came out in 2013. It really doesn't feel like a whole decade ago. To put that into perspective Man of Steel came out only 1 year after The Dark Knight Rises in 2012, and 1 year after the first Avengers film also in 2012.

I looked up his age and Henry Cavill is only 39?!? Weird I thought he was older, he's only a few years older than I am. That means he was only 28 when he made Man of Steel? It's weird to think how young he was, he already looked mid-30's back then.
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