The Rock Confirmed To Play Black Adam In DC's "SHAZAM" Movie

[Prowler]

I've heard and read nothing but terrible things about the Resident Evil movies.

Doesn't seem like they're good advertisement for the series.

[Turo602]

Originally Posted by Prowler

I've heard and read nothing but terrible things about the Resident Evil movies.

Doesn't seem like they're good advertisement for the series.

Maybe the idea was that you'd be so pissed off by the movies that you'd repent by playing the games.

[Leo656]

I dunno, man. Every single person in the theater for Get Smart was much older than me, and I am quite certain that they were 100% there because they watched the TV show back in the day. Many of them probably saw it in its original airing, from the look of 'em. I just used to watch it on Nick At Nite back in the day. I also remember the marketing at the time leaning heavily on people remembering the show, it wasn't being treated like anything "new", it was very clearly a revival of an old thing.

I think that's why it bombed, too. Austin Powers had already done "spy spoof" on a much grander scale, so Get Smart being a "dollar store" version of that same premise had zero appeal whatsoever outside of people with nostalgic fondness for the TV show, and that was probably not a huge audience by then.

I don't think it was made for a "new audience" at all, it was like Brady Bunch or one of them kinda movies. "Remember This? What if... Now, instead of Then?" I think they just overestimated people's nostalgia for the show entirely and that the premise itself held no appeal for anyone outside the core audience, for reasons I already mentioned. Some people might've gone in blind but that's gotta be like, ten people, tops.

[Andrew NDB]

Now can they go back and add him into Shazam properly?

[Leo656]

Would be nice, I got what they were going for but the fact that it was an obvious Fake Shemp just made that scene totally eye-rolling when it could've been really cool and epic.

I mean movies get re-worked all the time long after release so f*ck it, I don't see any reason why they couldn't take two whole seconds to fix that scene and make that the official version for digital and all upcoming disc releases. They won't bother, but they could/should, definitely.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Prowler

Yeah. You said pretty much everything.

Schwarzenegger also had Predator and Total Recall. Both classics. And Stallone also had Rambo.

What's the most iconic movie starring The Rock? One of the Fast and Furious movies? That franchise already existed before he was in it. The Scorpion King? Both famous movies but not exactly timeless classics like Rocky and The Terminator are.

The Rock seems to go for quantity over quality. He also did a bunch of Disney movies and played the tooth fairy in one. I guess he just likes being in movies and doesn't care as long as he gets lead roles.

Y'know... that's right. For all his movies, he's never had any clear defining roles. Even with the Fast and Furious whenever I heard that name, Vin Diesel usually comes to mind, not The Rock.

Being The Rock in WWE will always be his defining role. It'll just be a fact that he happened to be in so many movies, but nothing that really defined a cinematic legacy.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Y'know... that's right. For all his movies, he's never had any clear defining roles. Even with the Fast and Furious whenever I heard that name, Vin Diesel usually comes to mind, not The Rock.

Being The Rock in WWE will always be his defining role. It'll just be a fact that he happened to be in so many movies, but nothing that really defined a cinematic legacy.

While The Rock did have the most successful wrestler transition to actor of all time, he's still looked at as a former pro wrestler. So yeah, he's always going to be an action man. He even decided to get rid of his wrestling name in Hollywood around 2007. And yes, tbh, it has worked for the most part. A lot of people just call him Dwayne Johnson nowadays. I just clal him The Rock out of habit. Plus it's raider and faster to type lol

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Prowler

While The Rock did have the most successful wrestler transition to actor of all time, he's still looked at as a former pro wrestler. So yeah, he's always going to be an action man. He even decided to get rid of his wrestling name in Hollywood around 2007. And yes, tbh, it has worked for the most part. A lot of people just call him Dwayne Johnson nowadays. I just clal him The Rock out of habit. Plus it's raider and faster to type lol

I mean the fact he keeps coming back to WWE everyone once in a while to get the crowd going doesn't help matters. He'll forever be The Rock, no matter how hard he tries.

I remember the first episode of Smackdown Live on Peacock or whatever, they brought The Rock in to further pump it up.

[IMJ]

‘Black Adam’ Review: Dwayne Johnson’s Superhero Debut Is Another Catastrophe for DC’s Film Universe

Hm......

LMAO The writer calls the JSA the "DCEU's Farm Team" and that they get into "minor league scraps". geeze

[Leo656]

So okay, two things I feel obligated to mention out of hand:

1. Legitimately, this is the first outright negative review I've read. Most are saying it's no worse than "decent if predictable", and more are saying it's actually Pretty Good.

2. More importantly, the author of this review makes no attempt whatsoever to hide their disdain for super-hero movies. He makes repeated mention of how same-y, boring, predictable, and irritating they are (to him).

So basically, "I don't like super-hero movies, and therefore I hate this one too, because it does what all of them do." I'm paraphrasing, but that's essentially the review.

It's his opinion, but to me it's why people who don't like punk rock shouldn't review punk albums; you can have an opinion, but your opinion needs an asterisk besides it because you're entirely not the audience for the material. Or it'd be like me reviewing a Grateful Dead album. "This is one of the worst albums I ever heard... just like ALL of the other ones by this band." Would you take my review seriously? Probably not.

We'll see what comes of it, I'm hoping to go this weekend. Just saying, it took me all of 15 seconds to realize that this guy has an axe to grind with the entire genre. Movie might be lackluster but I certainly wouldn't take his word for it.

So far, the thing that gives me some concern is that between the "homage" shots to Snyder's movies, and the fact that they shot the movie as a Hard R and then edited it down to PG-13... it kinda seems like they're trying to mimic Snyder as hard as they can in a very superficial way, and that can turn out Good or Bad and we won't know until it's all out there in front of us.

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, that reviewer does seem to have it out for the movie, to be fair.

[Leo656]

I'll be honest, I'm going for The Cameo and that's it. Movie looks "just fine" but if it legit moves me or surprises me, I'll be shocked. That said, I don't see anything to suggest it's Actually Bad. I don't even like The Rock, but I've been saying for years that playing this character is like the only reason he was even born so I'm supportive of it.

Like it's probably VERY over-stuffed, I would guess. But that's probably as bad as it gets.

Now, if people overwhelmingly love THIS DC movie with a half-dozen brand-new characters who never got a solo movie crammed into it, and it's the same people who hated on BvS and Justice League for that reason... someone is gonna have to explain to me once and for all how Anti-Snyder Bias isn't real. We'll see what happens with that.

[Andrew NDB]

The Rock: "I don't want Black Adam's origin and rise to be lost in a movie he has to share with Shazam."

Also the Rock: "OK, let's put the entire Justice Society of America into the Black Adam movie."

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by IMJ

‘Black Adam’ Review: Dwayne Johnson’s Superhero Debut Is Another Catastrophe for DC’s Film Universe

Hm......

LMAO The writer calls the JSA the "DCEU's Farm Team" and that they get into "minor league scraps". geeze

Who pissed in that dumbasses's cereal

Taking a page out of the Brie Larson/Women director's handbook

she dispatches the Justice Society of America to get him under control, because there’s nothing DCEU movies love more than assembling a team of people that general audiences have never heard of and couldn’t possibly care about.

This movie isn't made for you you being the general audience

[Leo656]

Andrew: Right? But that screams "WB Decision" to me. Obviously they're not gonna give the guy EVERY concession he asked for every time.

Plus if we really break it down, most of Black Adam's important stories have more to do with the JSA than Captain Marvel, anyhow. Like yes clearly he was created to be Captain Marvel's main villain but for the last two decades he's much more a JSA villain. So it's not a decision without logic to it. By this point you "can't" have Black Adam without including the JSA somehow, they're too entangled.

Plus they REALLY gotta pump up "Shazam" before he takes a swing at Black Adam. In the movies the guy's a f*cking clown, they can't put him against Black Adam until they course-correct and turn Shazam into a more serious character who can hold his own. Going by the sequel trailer, they're doing the opposite. So who knows what will happen but as of Right Now putting Cap and Adam together would be a very bad idea.

[Autbot_Benz]

Also to that angry reviewer read a ****ing comic book or look up the JSA on the DC Wiki. its simple

[Leo656]

Biggest gripe with me:

MoS established that Superman was The First. The world lost their minds because he was an Unknown Unknown.

Now there's a JSA and apparently has been for a while. I'm dying to hear the explanation and I'm hoping it's at least plausible.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Leo656

So okay, two things I feel obligated to mention out of hand:

1. Legitimately, this is the first outright negative review I've read. Most are saying it's no worse than "decent if predictable", and more are saying it's actually Pretty Good.

2. More importantly, the author of this review makes no attempt whatsoever to hide their disdain for super-hero movies. He makes repeated mention of how same-y, boring, predictable, and irritating they are (to him).

So basically, "I don't like super-hero movies, and therefore I hate this one too, because it does what all of them do." I'm paraphrasing, but that's essentially the review.

It's his opinion, but to me it's why people who don't like punk rock shouldn't review punk albums; you can have an opinion, but your opinion needs an asterisk besides it because you're entirely not the audience for the material. Or it'd be like me reviewing a Grateful Dead album. "This is one of the worst albums I ever heard... just like ALL of the other ones by this band." Would you take my review seriously? Probably not.

We'll see what comes of it, I'm hoping to go this weekend. Just saying, it took me all of 15 seconds to realize that this guy has an axe to grind with the entire genre. Movie might be lackluster but I certainly wouldn't take his word for it.

So far, the thing that gives me some concern is that between the "homage" shots to Snyder's movies, and the fact that they shot the movie as a Hard R and then edited it down to PG-13... it kinda seems like they're trying to mimic Snyder as hard as they can in a very superficial way, and that can turn out Good or Bad and we won't know until it's all out there in front of us.

Stuff like this is why they call Sushi-X to review fighting games and not the guy that hates them and only like RPGs.

[Autbot_Benz]

They did some JSA tie in comics for the movie so that might explain how they came to be in the movie verse

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Stuff like this is why they call Sushi-X to review fighting games and not the guy that hates them and only like RPGs.

Well, I mean the great thing about EGM was once in a while they WOULD let the RPG guy review a fighting game... and if RPG Guy liked said fighting game, as much as Sushi-X did, then you KNEW it had to be at least decent if the guy who wasn't even a fan of the genre had a blast with it. That's what got me into Soul Calibur; I didn't play fighting games, wasn't any good at them, but EVERYBODY loved that one so I knew it was worth my time to check out, and lo and behold it was. If only the hardcore fighting game fans liked it, it wouldn't have moved me at all, I only cared when the "casuals" also said it was a 10. So it's not like it's a bad idea to get a cross-section of opinions.

I'm not against casting a wide net and collecting a wide range of opinions, I mean that's what it's about. But I always say to really listen when someone tells you who they are... so if a guy gives a comic book movie a bad review AND makes repeated mention of the fact he also hates comic book movies in general... well, I'm going to weigh ALL of the data, including the fact that the guy probably went in expecting to have a bad time and then, shockingly, had a bad time.

Like I know there will be other bad reviews, there always are, but if a guy repeatedly can't help but say "I hate these movies" I'm just plain not going to listen to that, I think that's bad/lazy criticism. Like, even if I end up hating the movie I would still think the review itself was bad because it came from an intellectually dishonest place.