The Rock Confirmed To Play Black Adam In DC's "SHAZAM" Movie - Page 15

*CyberCubed* · 10-19-2022, 09:52 AM

Most people seeing this movie will know nothing about DC superheroes. They're seeing it for The Rock and that's it. I bet they never heard the name, "Black Adam" in the entire lives.

*Andrew NDB* · 10-19-2022, 12:06 PM

Movie is at 47% on Rotten Tomatoes with 47 reviews counted:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/the-bla...eviews-are-in/

*IMJ* · 10-19-2022, 02:17 PM

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There was a moderate energy in the fandom when Shazam 1 came out. But waiting 4 years between movies killed that, surely.

Yeah. And the truth is that the first Shazam wasn't even really that great of a movie. It was just light-hearted and didn't bash anyone over the head with woke $#!(, so I think people were more likely to enjoy it at that time.

It's like Sonic. Both Sonic and Shazam had some woke $#!( in them, but it wasn't billed as such and the woke $#!( elements were slightly more normalized. So normal people didn't care and by comparison of the moment both Shazam and Sonic performed better arguably than they would have in a socio-political atmosphere that was more stable.

So far I have little interest in the Shazam sequel.

*Coola Yagami* · 10-19-2022, 02:47 PM

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Yeah. And the truth is that the first Shazam wasn't even really that great of a movie. It was just light-hearted and didn't bash anyone over the head with woke $#!(, so I think people were more likely to enjoy it at that time.

It's like Sonic. Both Sonic and Shazam had some woke $#!( in them, but it wasn't billed as such and the woke $#!( elements were slightly more normalized. So normal people didn't care and by comparison of the moment both Shazam and Sonic performed better arguably than they would have in a socio-political atmosphere that was more stable.

So far I have little interest in the Shazam sequel.

I don't remember anything 'woke' in Sonic? Only thing I could possibly think of is maybe the inter-racial couple but I mean.... that's pretty much old news for at least a decade. And I wouldn't even call that woke, it was just a thing that became popular. There wasn't any moral grandstanding or virtue signalling over dating someone from a different race as you.

I remember mostly the pandering towards Olive Garden than pandering towards the woke narrative.

*IMJ* · 10-19-2022, 03:06 PM

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I don't remember anything 'woke' in Sonic? Only thing I could possibly think of is maybe the inter-racial couple but I mean.... that's pretty much old news for at least a decade. And I wouldn't even call that woke, it was just a thing that became popular. There wasn't any moral grandstanding or virtue signalling over dating someone from a different race as you.

I remember mostly the pandering towards Olive Garden than pandering towards the woke narrative.

Yeah those things were what I was suggesting, and also were sort of my point - it was organic. It was a non-issue.

*oldmanwinters* · 10-19-2022, 03:07 PM

Eh... I'll probably see it next week, with a ticket voucher discount.

*Coola Yagami* · 10-19-2022, 03:13 PM

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Yeah those things were what I was suggesting, and also were sort of my point - it was organic. It was a non-issue.

I mean... I guess? That would have been woke maybe back in the late 80's/early 90's to maaaaaybe push 'the narrative' that hey, 'dating someone outside your race is no big deal! Go for it!' since that was more taboo back then.

But it's such a common thing for so long, I don't really see it as 'woke' or going against the norm.

Now maybe if Sonic was living with a trans couple, that I can see.

*Coola Yagami* · 10-19-2022, 03:14 PM

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Eh... I'll probably see it next week, with a ticket voucher discount.

I'm actually gonna hard pass on this and go see Smile. Zero interest in Black Adam. At least morbidly curious about Smile.

*CyberCubed* · 10-19-2022, 03:36 PM

I'll watch it for free when it comes out in HD on the streaming websites. Should only be in 2 months at most.

~~Leo656~~ · 10-19-2022, 04:00 PM

Sounds like a mess but people are loving Fate and that's a lot of what I wanted to see anyway. I'm trying to go this weekend for Fate and Cavill. Not expecting more than "It was okay."

My concern is that since WB leaked the cameo to drum up ticket sales, if the movie does poorly then all that hopeful talk about revitalizing Superman goes out the window. All I give a sh*t about from WB is more Cavill as Superman, at this point. But this very well could be the last time we see it, ever.

So yeah selfishly I hope it does well even if it's not great. I mean awful movies make big money all the time so hopefully it does okay. That sh*tty other thing Rock does with the car movies, that sh*t is for the f*cking birds but those movies make tons of money despite being pure garbage. I don't get why some "bad" things fail and other, worse things get to be world-beaters.

*Andrew NDB* · 10-19-2022, 04:57 PM

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My concern is that since WB leaked the cameo to drum up ticket sales, if the movie does poorly then all that hopeful talk about revitalizing Superman goes out the window. .

Yeah, I had that same thought. Like they may actually go, "Damn, maybe we really do need black Superman to salvage things."

~~Leo656~~ · 10-19-2022, 05:53 PM

But after THAT, aside from "Call everyone a racist" what does WB do when they find out the hard way that no-f*cking-body wants Black Superman?

Probably just retire the character permanently for "lack of relevance" is my guess.

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 10-21-2022, 11:27 AM

Eh, it was a fun movie, but nothing special. Dr Fate was cool, rest of the JSA was... ok, I guess. I was a decent superhero flick, like Shazam was. Nothing really stand-out, though. I do like how they handled Adam's native country, and his interactions with his people's modern descendants. I kind of hope this does well enough, that we get a Shazam vs Black Adam movie down the line.

*Andrew NDB* · 10-21-2022, 11:32 AM

I worry they're going to go the Venom route, to where he's basically just a superhero and it'd be very difficult and inorganic to suddenly force him into a situation in which he'd be the villain in a different superhero movie.

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 10-21-2022, 11:41 AM

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I worry they're going to go the Venom route, to where he's basically just a superhero and it'd be very difficult and inorganic to suddenly force him into a situation in which he'd be the villain in a different superhero movie.

Oh don't worry, they set him up as a possible antagonist to any DC hero. He's been warned the minute he sets foot outside of Khandaq, the other DC heroes will be on him. And the way Black Adam chafes under restrictions, a conflict is inevitable; either him leaving to interfere in another nation, or heroes coming in to interfere with his rule.

*oldmanwinters* · 10-21-2022, 11:53 AM

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Probably just retire the character permanently for "lack of relevance" is my guess.

January 1, 2034 can't come soon enough!

*IMJ* · 10-21-2022, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I worry they're going to go the Venom route, to where he's basically just a superhero and it'd be very difficult and inorganic to suddenly force him into a situation in which he'd be the villain in a different superhero movie.

Absolutely what they are going to do....

*Autbot_Benz* · 10-21-2022, 01:42 PM

I Read spoilers for this movie and I won't be surprised to see Khalid Nanssour as Dr Fate in a feature movie. He is cool in the comics from what I read.

*Andrew NDB* · 10-21-2022, 05:09 PM

It's looking pretty good around where I live. Just about all the showings tonight seem reasonably full when I check seat availability on Fandango.

*Coola Yagami* · 10-21-2022, 05:20 PM

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Absolutely what they are going to do....

It's kinda like what Andrew said way back then. How are they expected to cheer for Shazam whupping Black Adam's ass if they're supposed to think he's a bad-ass superhero in this one?

Even though it sounds more like he'll be fighting Superman instead.

Question though, did he still yell SHAZAM when powering up?

10-19-2022, 12:06 PM	#282
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,568	Movie is at 47% on Rotten Tomatoes with 47 reviews counted: https://www.darkhorizons.com/the-bla...eviews-are-in/ __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

10-19-2022, 03:07 PM	#286
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,507	Eh... I'll probably see it next week, with a ticket voucher discount. __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

10-21-2022, 11:27 AM	#293
Panda_Kahn_fan Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,715	Eh, it was a fun movie, but nothing special. Dr Fate was cool, rest of the JSA was... ok, I guess. I was a decent superhero flick, like Shazam was. Nothing really stand-out, though. I do like how they handled Adam's native country, and his interactions with his people's modern descendants. I kind of hope this does well enough, that we get a Shazam vs Black Adam movie down the line. __________________ My TMNT fanfic: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1266176...n-a-Half-Shell IDW is the best version of TMNT If they make a TMNT reboot movie retelling the shredder battle/origin, I won't buy a ticket.

10-21-2022, 11:32 AM	#294
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,568	I worry they're going to go the Venom route, to where he's basically just a superhero and it'd be very difficult and inorganic to suddenly force him into a situation in which he'd be the villain in a different superhero movie. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

10-21-2022, 01:42 PM	#298
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 9,193	I Read spoilers for this movie and I won't be surprised to see Khalid Nanssour as Dr Fate in a feature movie. He is cool in the comics from what I read. __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

10-19-2022, 09:52 AM	#281
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,886	Most people seeing this movie will know nothing about DC superheroes. They're seeing it for The Rock and that's it. I bet they never heard the name, "Black Adam" in the entire lives.

10-19-2022, 03:36 PM	#289
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,886	I'll watch it for free when it comes out in HD on the streaming websites. Should only be in 2 months at most.

10-19-2022, 04:00 PM	#290
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Sounds like a mess but people are loving Fate and that's a lot of what I wanted to see anyway. I'm trying to go this weekend for Fate and Cavill. Not expecting more than "It was okay." My concern is that since WB leaked the cameo to drum up ticket sales, if the movie does poorly then all that hopeful talk about revitalizing Superman goes out the window. All I give a sht about from WB is more Cavill as Superman, at this point. But this very well could be the last time we see it, ever. So yeah selfishly I hope it does well even if it's not great. I mean awful movies make big money all the time so hopefully it does okay. That shtty other thing Rock does with the car movies, that sht is for the fcking birds but those movies make tons of money despite being pure garbage. I don't get why some "bad" things fail and other, worse things get to be world-beaters.

10-19-2022, 05:53 PM	#292
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	But after THAT, aside from "Call everyone a racist" what does WB do when they find out the hard way that no-f*cking-body wants Black Superman? Probably just retire the character permanently for "lack of relevance" is my guess.

10-21-2022, 05:09 PM	#299
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,568	It's looking pretty good around where I live. Just about all the showings tonight seem reasonably full when I check seat availability on Fandango. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]