Colorado LGBTQ Club Mass Shooting

[1987]

This seems like another false flag during transgender awareness month

18 injured and 5 dead in a mass shooting at Club Q in Colorado Springs, CO

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/11/20/u...lub/index.html

I wonder if this is some stunt to make Lauren Boebert look bad? She’s the infamous mom who told Beto “Hell No, you’re not taking away our guns!”

Angry leftists on twitter are already blaming her since this happened in her state, since she’s pro 2A and they’ve labeled her transphobic. Everything gotta be politicized these days.

Thoughts and prayers for the victims of this senseless false flag terror attack.

[triplexxx]

Always terrible to hear horrible things like this happening. At least they a couple civilians took the guy down. May those eho died rest eell in heaven, may those injured and the families of the victims be comforted and recover, and may the suspect receive his just punishment.

[1987]

The shooter has identified themselves as non-binary and uses they/them pronouns. Here is CNN talking about it and one reporter accidentally misgenders the shooter on air

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/stat...7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Also seen some news articles pop up indicating that this lgbtq bar was hosting all ages drag shows.

Apparently armed ANTIFA militants are “standing guard” at drag queen story hours

https://twitter.com/alexstein99/stat...C82ZjPpZ8sAAAA

[Coola Yagami]

This is odd. How will the media spin it when the shooter is 'on the right side'. He's not the big bad MAGA shooter the media was hoping he'd be.

This is why I hate media. Their job should just be to report the news regardless the politics and narrative behind it.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Originally Posted by 1987

Apparently armed ANTIFA militants are “standing guard” at drag queen story hours

They’ll gear up and guard the libraries to protect the drag queens from potential shooters, but they won’t guard the schools to protect the children?

[Andrew NDB]

The left wing news is taking this and running with it, too. Now the narrative is that if you're not all on board with celebrating drag queens performing in front of small children then you're basically complicit in murder, right along side the gunman.

Also, turns out the shooter was non-binary. Whoops!

https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado-...-defenders-say

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

The left wing news is taking this and running with it, too. Now the narrative is that if you're not all on board with celebrating drag queens performing in front of small children then you're basically complicit in murder, right along side the gunman.

Also, turns out the shooter was non-binary. Whoops!

https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado-...-defenders-say

Guess that makes me Jack the Ripper. Oh, well.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Also, turns out the shooter was non-binary. Whoops!

He’s just pulling an Ezra Miller so that system will take it easy on him for being part of an oppressed group.

[IndigoErth]

Only thing the media has me mentally raising a brow over is that, as it too often goes when a shooter is a white guy, now we're hearing about his being a victim of bullying. It would be one thing if it was an obvious motive against specific targeted individuals, but when some creep just goes and shoots up innocent people... they shouldn't even bother bringing that crap up. There aught to be no sympathy for someone who does that, harming people who had no involvement in his own history.

Not really buying the "non-binary" bit. If you don't want to be labeled as either then why when changing your name choose a particularly masculine sounding one...

Apparently his mother is a piece of work herself with her own record of arrests and father with a past in drugs and appearing in porn, so sounds like it's a whole family of wackos.

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Not really buying the "non-binary" bit. If you don't want to be labeled as either then why when changing your name choose a particularly masculine sounding one...

Apparently his mother is a piece of work herself with her own record of arrests and father with a past in drugs and appearing in porn, so sounds like it's a whole family of wackos.

Same he is using Non Binary to try and get out of getting a Hate Crime pinned against him. His dad is no better

The Colorado shooter’s dad on finding out his son murdered people: “They started telling me about the incident, a shooting... And then I go on to find out it’s a gay bar. I got scared, ‘Shit, is he gay?’ And he’s not gay, so I said, phew… I am a conservative Republican.”

https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/sta...19454900805649

[Leo656]

Correct, as far as anyone can tell the "non-binary" label is just a Hail Mary play from his public defenders to try and get a more lenient sentence.

His Dad is sadly not the only person happy about what he did. Every news article I read on the subject has FAR too many comments underneath it saying some variant of, "Well, that's what Those People GET, for __________." It's disgusting. It's bad enough things like this happen at all; when people start CHEERING for it because "ewww gey buttsexks makes me nervous, my kid sez dey're gey and I know it's just cuz dey wuz gr00med!" that's when I start praying for the nukes to drop. People are f*cking disgusting.

Wanting people dead for being gay is like Thing #285 on the "Things More People Should Just Kill Themselves Over" list, because it just makes a person like, the BIGGEST piece of sh*t.

[Andrew NDB]

And article writers on both sides tend to fan the flames more than not. And boy, I watched an interview with that dad and yeesh. As many videos as I could point to on the left of pink-haired people screeching about this or that, that is equally damning of the "Right." Which isn't to say either example is a fair sampling. Crazy people are going to crazy.

The facts are that the shooting happened, the leftist media IMMEDIATELY ran with the "Oh! Oh! Oh! It must be a far right extremist! And anyone that doesn't celebrate drag queen story hour must agree with this thinking! And this is 100% the reason Twitter needs to be censored!" before ANY facts came in about the shooter. Then the egg on face ensues. Then the non-binary thing drops and they're all confused and quiet and weird. Because they can't even bring themselves to question it. By their own rules, if someone says that they must be it, period. Part of a protected and victimized class, by default. And then more facts came in. Turns out he legally changed his name some time before this, threatened his mom with a bomb a little bit before that, and cops were called as a result. There were red flag laws in place there that weren't utilized. Now it's all being quietly shuffled away because it doesn't suit the narrative they shot off from the gate assuming it was a thing that turns out it wasn't. Which is about example #200 of this so far in about the past 2 years alone.

This particular skewing ONLY comes from one side. And they're never called out about it, largely because the right is too goddamned "whatever/non-issue" about stuff this. This SHOULD be a big deal! That this is continuing to happen in the media. People should be held accountable, possibly jobs lost (not "cancelled," but fired because they are doing the opposite of journalism, which is what their very job description should be). This whole incident will be buried and forgotten about in less than a week by the very people crying about it yesterday. Watch.

[mrmaczaps]

And the VA Walmart shooter was a black man who was also an employee... but thats not in the MSM any more either....

If democrats would stop shooting people, there would be like 99% less shootings. *shrug*

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

And the VA Walmart shooter was a black man who was also an employee... but thats not in the MSM any more either....

If democrats would stop shooting people, there would be like 99% less shootings. *shrug*

Also like 99% less suicides.

[Mayhem]

He sounds like such a well rounded, well brought up individual, just like his father and representative grandfather (who voiced support for Jan6)… not

https://heavy.com/news/anderson-lee-aldrich/

The only part I’ll note that yeah, that’s ****ed up, you can see why he wanted to fight back, is that Wiki page mentioned… when we grew up it was names in the playground, now you have something millions of people can read and laugh at…

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

This is odd. How will the media spin it when the shooter is 'on the right side'. He's not the big bad MAGA shooter the media was hoping he'd be.

This is why I hate media. Their job should just be to report the news regardless the politics and narrative behind it.

Malcolm X figured their games out a long time ago.

“The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses.”

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

He sounds like such a well rounded, well brought up individual, just like his father and representative grandfather (who voiced support for Jan6)… not

https://heavy.com/news/anderson-lee-aldrich/

The only part I’ll note that yeah, that’s ****ed up, you can see why he wanted to fight back, is that Wiki page mentioned… when we grew up it was names in the playground, now you have something millions of people can read and laugh at…

Such a quality family, no wonder he is a total nutjob, but still no excuse for harming anyone who had zero involvement in his problems. While the bullying should have never happened, it's a bit easy to assume his own aggressive attitude may have been a part of ending up on the receiving end of that, rather than just being someone who was nice and an easy target to pick on...

Very detailed and informative article. Will just add, that it didn't include, is that Richard Fierro, one of the guys who took this creep down, had been there at the club with his wife, his young 20s daughter, her long time boyfriend, and some friends, supposedly celebrating a birthday and to see the drag show happening that day. The daughter's boyfriend, Raymond Green Vance, was one of the victims. Briefly came across Fierro talking to CNN the other day, he and both families obviously devastated by the loss.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Very detailed and informative article. Will just add, that it didn't include, is that Richard Fierro, one of the guys who took this creep down, had been there at the club with his wife, his young 20s daughter, her long time boyfriend, and some friends, supposedly celebrating a birthday and to see the drag show happening that day. The daughter's boyfriend, Raymond Green Vance, was one of the victims. Briefly came across Fierro talking to CNN the other day, he and both families obviously devastated by the loss.

"tHis iS gOd'S WrATh aGaInsT sExiAl pErvErSIon!"
- Too many people, including about half of this forum probably

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Leo656

"tHis iS gOd'S WrATh aGaInsT sExiAl pErvErSIon!"
- Too many people, including about half of this forum probably

Yeah, and those who go on like that were partly what I was thinking with that comment too.

Sure, I heard about a "club" and initially imagined some sweaty, risque place... but hearing that it was someplace a family got together at to celebrate someone's birthday and most in the group probably weren't even gay or whatnot, including the daughter's boyfriend who died... so it sounds like this was just a gay-friendly place welcoming in general to anyone, including a family group. Because good god who would ever go anywhere actually risque and inappropriate with their parents.

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

so it sounds like this was just a gay-friendly place welcoming in general to anyone, including a family group.

So... A place.