Super Mario Bros animated movie from Illumination - Page 6

*Andrew NDB* · 10-07-2022, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

You sure about that? Mario being a cartoon is one thing, but will they be able to resist making a Metroid movie where Samus isn't super-competent, flawless and every guy in the movie is either evil or stupid?

Based on the reports that Nintendo basically has their hands on the throats of the people making this and how that wouldn't be any different with future stuff, yes. I'm pretty sure of it. For all their short-sightedness, Nintendo is nothing if not consistent with The Brand™. Which, if we're talking about things like Mario and Zelda and Metroid... this is an inherently good thing.

Now, I'd love to see this evolve into live action endeavors but baby steps and all.

*CyberCubed* · 10-08-2022, 10:29 AM

The main problem with a Metroid movie is Samus is usually isolated from other humans and doesn't talk much in her games. It's just basically Samus alone on a planet fighting through random aliens most of the time. It would be hard to do a faithful adaption without Samus going along with some other Galactic Force members and then it'd be even more of a ripoff of Alien than a homage.

The entire Metroid franchise was a homage to the Alien movies. That's why Ridley was named that as a homage to Ripley from Alien as well as director Ridley Scott. I can see maybe a short anime-inspired show about Metroid, but it's hard to imagine a movie.

*Andrew NDB* · 10-08-2022, 12:50 PM

Give her a talking AI like Jarvis and we're good.

~~Leo656~~ · 10-09-2022, 12:45 AM

A huge problem with adapting Samus is that she's essentially a cipher, someone for the audience to project their own personality onto - very common, in the early days of video games. She has none of her own, for the most part, and has very rarely been put into a position to display one... and when she has, people get salty about it.

Firstly, waaaaay back in the day she was a recurring secondary protagonist in the old Captain N comic books from Valiant, since the other characters from the cartoon like Simon and Icarus were in licensing hell and couldn't be carried over, but first-party Nintendo characters were fair game and so they had Samus show up a bunch, and by extension gave her a personality for the first time ever. And she was shifty, conniving, selfish, a bit arrogant, and she had the hots for Kevin and would get catty with Lana over it. And immediately, a lot of people were like "THAT ISN'T SAMUS!" Ummm... it's 1989, jackhole, and this comic book right here is the Very First Time you're seeing any of her "personality", and you're gonna say it's "wrong" because you had a bunch of stuff YOU made up in your head? Go home.

Fast forward to "Other M" and once again we have a different but still polarizing and off-putting personality transplant for Samus, and again, ALL of the complaints are "THAT'S NOT SAMUS!" despite... well, neither the Other M portrayal OR the Captain N portrayal overtly contradict anything we'd already "known" about her character... she didn't HAVE a "character", she was a mute in a space suit who could curl up in a ball, that was it. Every bit of her "personality" or character was stuff the kids playing the game(s) made up in their heads about who they WANTED her to be, and then when something "official" came along that went against that, they sh*t on it, and loudly.

So that would be a huge problem with ever doing a Metroid movie, if you were ever gonna have her out of the suit or even have any dialog. Lots and lots of people who just won't accept it unless she's basically a Chick Terminator, all stoic and bad-ass and whatnot. Which would be a boring-ass f*cking character to lead a movie but "THAT'S WHO SHE IS!" if you ask certain people who project a lot.

*TigerClaw* · 10-09-2022, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

A huge problem with adapting Samus is that she's essentially a cipher, someone for the audience to project their own personality onto - very common, in the early days of video games. She has none of her own, for the most part, and has very rarely been put into a position to display one... and when she has, people get salty about it.

Firstly, waaaaay back in the day she was a recurring secondary protagonist in the old Captain N comic books from Valiant, since the other characters from the cartoon like Simon and Icarus were in licensing hell and couldn't be carried over, but first-party Nintendo characters were fair game and so they had Samus show up a bunch, and by extension gave her a personality for the first time ever. And she was shifty, conniving, selfish, a bit arrogant, and she had the hots for Kevin and would get catty with Lana over it. And immediately, a lot of people were like "THAT ISN'T SAMUS!" Ummm... it's 1989, jackhole, and this comic book right here is the Very First Time you're seeing any of her "personality", and you're gonna say it's "wrong" because you had a bunch of stuff YOU made up in your head? Go home.

Fast forward to "Other M" and once again we have a different but still polarizing and off-putting personality transplant for Samus, and again, ALL of the complaints are "THAT'S NOT SAMUS!" despite... well, neither the Other M portrayal OR the Captain N portrayal overtly contradict anything we'd already "known" about her character... she didn't HAVE a "character", she was a mute in a space suit who could curl up in a ball, that was it. Every bit of her "personality" or character was stuff the kids playing the game(s) made up in their heads about who they WANTED her to be, and then when something "official" came along that went against that, they sh*t on it, and loudly.

So that would be a huge problem with ever doing a Metroid movie, if you were ever gonna have her out of the suit or even have any dialog. Lots and lots of people who just won't accept it unless she's basically a Chick Terminator, all stoic and bad-ass and whatnot. Which would be a boring-ass f*cking character to lead a movie but "THAT'S WHO SHE IS!" if you ask certain people who project a lot.

I'm one of the few who enjoyed Other M because of its cinematic approach, It was a nice change of pace from the other games that were 3D at the time, And this game was a combination of 3D and 2D, and I liked that Samus had dialogue in the game, I cannot relate to characters who hardly speak or never take off there helmets, They seem so one dimensional to me.

*Prowler* · 10-12-2022, 09:23 PM

No one commenting on the trailer that came out a few days ago?

Some people dislike Chris Pratt's Mario voice, but tbh Mario's default voice is very high pitched and more suitable for random one liners in video games. Him actually talking with people for an hour and a half in a movie with such voice could be a bit annoying to my ears.

Looks fun. It's animated, just like Super Mario should be. And it's not like it's a very hard series to adapt into an animated movie. I think it's going to be solid

*drgon78* · 10-13-2022, 05:37 AM

Movie looks like fun to me.

*ZariusTwo* · 10-13-2022, 05:53 AM

Just looks like cut scenes from a game I'd rather be playing.

*TigerClaw* · 11-28-2022, 04:26 PM

Nintendo is hosting another Direct for the Super Mario Bros movie, and will debut a second trailer.
https://twitter.com/nintendoamerica/...CfBg2wqiaMpZyQ

*Autbot_Benz* · 11-29-2022, 04:19 PM

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 11-29-2022, 04:24 PM

Hm, not a bad trailer. I think the game Donkey Kong will be presented as a gladiatorial match Mario will have to take part in mid-movie, and the events of super Mario Kart and the first game will be presented as Mario training to be a hero. As to Peach, I liked her voice, personality, and design. This looks like an amazing film, I can't wait to see it.

*Turo602* · 11-29-2022, 04:56 PM

This is the exact kind of movie Sonic deserved. Hell, this is exactly how every video game movie should be approached. There's no f*cking question what this is based on and who it was made for. It's a celebration of Mario that's intelligent enough to understand that Mario has been relevant for generations and isn't just a reinvention for a mass audience who has grown out of touch with the brand since its heyday.

Though, I can definitely see why they got Chris Pratt to be Mario and I don't think I care for it too much. Mario doesn't seem to be the fearless hero he's usually portrayed as in the games and is instead just an everyman who needs to train and is getting the sh*t beat out of him constantly for jokes. While I don't mind the whole hero's journey approach too much, it's not what I would have done with Mario. But overall, still looks like a very fun movie for any fan of Mario.

*Coola Yagami* · 11-29-2022, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Turo602

This is the exact kind of movie Sonic deserved. Hell, this is exactly how every video game movie should be approached. There's no f*cking question what this is based on and who it was made for. It's a celebration of Mario that's intelligent enough to understand that Mario has been relevant for generations and isn't just a reinvention for a mass audience who has grown out of touch with the brand since its heyday.

Though, I can definitely see why they got Chris Pratt to be Mario and I don't think I care for it too much. Mario doesn't seem to be the fearless hero he's usually portrayed as in the games and is instead just an everyman who needs to train and is getting the sh*t beat out of him constantly for jokes. While I don't mind the whole hero's journey approach too much, it's not what I would have done with Mario. But overall, still looks like a very fun movie for any fan of Mario.

To be fair they would have to explain how an everyman overweight plumber from Brooklyn became the triple jumping hero he is today.

*Turo602* · 11-29-2022, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

To be fair they would have to explain how an everyman overweight plumber from Brooklyn became the triple jumping hero he is today.

I mean, sure. But then that's like trying to come up with some explanation for why Sonic is fast. No one has ever questioned what makes Sonic fast, he just is (though I'm sure some comic or some obscure info from somewhere already has) and we're here for it just like Super Mario should just be Super because that's the whole point. Again, it doesn't bother me too much, but it's not what I would have done, which doesn't really matter anyway.

*Coola Yagami* · 11-29-2022, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Turo602

I mean, sure. But then that's like trying to come up with some explanation for why Sonic is fast. No one has ever questioned what makes Sonic fast, he just is (though I'm sure some comic or some obscure info from somewhere already has) and we're here for it just like Super Mario should just be Super because that's the whole point. Again, it doesn't bother me too much, but it's not what I would have done, which doesn't really matter anyway.

Yeah but Sonic's speed is like his super power. And you get some leeway cause he's a talking animal guy.

Mario is a plumber dude from Brooklyn. All his 'powers' come from items and such. You gotta kinda explain how he can do the physical stuff.

Idk it just feels like at least some of it needs to be shown or explained. Something makes Mario who he is. Otherwise you can just go to the mushroom kingdom and start doing backflips without explanation.

*CyberCubed* · 11-29-2022, 05:40 PM

There's definitely some lore changing backstory here, assuming Mario and Donkey Kong fighting there is the first time they meet. I mean the movie doesn't have to be 1:1 with game lore so it doesn't matter, but not seeing Mario and DK (Cranky Kong), battling it out in New Donk City on a skyscraper when he saves Pauline is a bit different than the original origin. Pauline was on one of the posters so she is in the movie though, probably a minor cameo.

*Andrew NDB* · 11-29-2022, 05:40 PM

"Whoa, there's way less gravity here than on Earth!"

There, done.

*Coola Yagami* · 11-29-2022, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

"Whoa, there's way less gravity here than on Earth!"

There, done.

God dammit, you're right. Lmao. Didn't think of that.

*ProphetofGanja* · 11-29-2022, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

"Whoa, there's way less gravity here than on Earth!"

There, done.

that's actually pretty elegant

*Cowabung-Gal* · 11-29-2022, 08:56 PM

Wait a minute...

What if, it’s all just happening in Mario’s head?

What if he is just a regular plumber but one day he ate some mushrooms that were growing out from under a client’s toilet or out of the drain of the tub? And because he did that (for whatever reason), he’s hallucinating about traveling to the Mushroom Kingdom and saving the princess from a fire breathing turtle?

Just a theory.

10-08-2022, 12:50 PM	#103
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10-13-2022, 05:53 AM	#108
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11-28-2022, 04:26 PM	#109
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11-29-2022, 04:24 PM	#111
Panda_Kahn_fan Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,715	Hm, not a bad trailer. I think the game Donkey Kong will be presented as a gladiatorial match Mario will have to take part in mid-movie, and the events of super Mario Kart and the first game will be presented as Mario training to be a hero. As to Peach, I liked her voice, personality, and design. This looks like an amazing film, I can't wait to see it. __________________ My TMNT fanfic: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1266176...n-a-Half-Shell IDW is the best version of TMNT If they make a TMNT reboot movie retelling the shredder battle/origin, I won't buy a ticket.

10-08-2022, 10:29 AM	#102
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,881	The main problem with a Metroid movie is Samus is usually isolated from other humans and doesn't talk much in her games. It's just basically Samus alone on a planet fighting through random aliens most of the time. It would be hard to do a faithful adaption without Samus going along with some other Galactic Force members and then it'd be even more of a ripoff of Alien than a homage. The entire Metroid franchise was a homage to the Alien movies. That's why Ridley was named that as a homage to Ripley from Alien as well as director Ridley Scott. I can see maybe a short anime-inspired show about Metroid, but it's hard to imagine a movie.

10-09-2022, 12:45 AM	#104
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	A huge problem with adapting Samus is that she's essentially a cipher, someone for the audience to project their own personality onto - very common, in the early days of video games. She has none of her own, for the most part, and has very rarely been put into a position to display one... and when she has, people get salty about it. Firstly, waaaaay back in the day she was a recurring secondary protagonist in the old Captain N comic books from Valiant, since the other characters from the cartoon like Simon and Icarus were in licensing hell and couldn't be carried over, but first-party Nintendo characters were fair game and so they had Samus show up a bunch, and by extension gave her a personality for the first time ever. And she was shifty, conniving, selfish, a bit arrogant, and she had the hots for Kevin and would get catty with Lana over it. And immediately, a lot of people were like "THAT ISN'T SAMUS!" Ummm... it's 1989, jackhole, and this comic book right here is the Very First Time you're seeing any of her "personality", and you're gonna say it's "wrong" because you had a bunch of stuff YOU made up in your head? Go home. Fast forward to "Other M" and once again we have a different but still polarizing and off-putting personality transplant for Samus, and again, ALL of the complaints are "THAT'S NOT SAMUS!" despite... well, neither the Other M portrayal OR the Captain N portrayal overtly contradict anything we'd already "known" about her character... she didn't HAVE a "character", she was a mute in a space suit who could curl up in a ball, that was it. Every bit of her "personality" or character was stuff the kids playing the game(s) made up in their heads about who they WANTED her to be, and then when something "official" came along that went against that, they sht on it, and loudly. So that would be a huge problem with ever doing a Metroid movie, if you were ever gonna have her out of the suit or even have any dialog. Lots and lots of people who just won't accept it unless she's basically a Chick Terminator, all stoic and bad-ass and whatnot. Which would be a boring-ass fcking character to lead a movie but "THAT'S WHO SHE IS!" if you ask certain people who project a lot.

10-12-2022, 09:23 PM	#106
Prowler Emperor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,999	No one commenting on the trailer that came out a few days ago? Some people dislike Chris Pratt's Mario voice, but tbh Mario's default voice is very high pitched and more suitable for random one liners in video games. Him actually talking with people for an hour and a half in a movie with such voice could be a bit annoying to my ears. Looks fun. It's animated, just like Super Mario should be. And it's not like it's a very hard series to adapt into an animated movie. I think it's going to be solid

10-13-2022, 05:37 AM	#107
drgon78 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 2,408	Movie looks like fun to me.

11-29-2022, 04:56 PM	#112
Turo602 The King of Kings Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Illinois Posts: 2,931	This is the exact kind of movie Sonic deserved. Hell, this is exactly how every video game movie should be approached. There's no fcking question what this is based on and who it was made for. It's a celebration of Mario that's intelligent enough to understand that Mario has been relevant for generations and isn't just a reinvention for a mass audience who has grown out of touch with the brand since its heyday. Though, I can definitely see why they got Chris Pratt to be Mario and I don't think I care for it too much. Mario doesn't seem to be the fearless hero he's usually portrayed as in the games and is instead just an everyman who needs to train and is getting the sht beat out of him constantly for jokes. While I don't mind the whole hero's journey approach too much, it's not what I would have done with Mario. But overall, still looks like a very fun movie for any fan of Mario. __________________

11-29-2022, 05:40 PM	#116
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,881	There's definitely some lore changing backstory here, assuming Mario and Donkey Kong fighting there is the first time they meet. I mean the movie doesn't have to be 1:1 with game lore so it doesn't matter, but not seeing Mario and DK (Cranky Kong), battling it out in New Donk City on a skyscraper when he saves Pauline is a bit different than the original origin. Pauline was on one of the posters so she is in the movie though, probably a minor cameo.

11-29-2022, 05:40 PM	#117
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,560	"Whoa, there's way less gravity here than on Earth!" There, done. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

11-29-2022, 08:56 PM	#120
Cowabung-Gal The Party Dudette Join Date: Apr 2022 Location: U-S-A!! Posts: 2,606	Wait a minute... What if, it’s all just happening in Mario’s head? What if he is just a regular plumber but one day he ate some mushrooms that were growing out from under a client’s toilet or out of the drain of the tub? And because he did that (for whatever reason), he’s hallucinating about traveling to the Mushroom Kingdom and saving the princess from a fire breathing turtle? Just a theory. __________________ Cowabunga