DC/WB Confirm ''The Flash: Flashpoint'' Movie

[ZariusTwo]

Cavil and Gadot's cameos have been cut from the movie

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/mo...source=twitter

[Leo656]

More money well spent.

One commenter on another site had a good one. "Does WB actually like, MAKE movies anymore? Or do they just, like, do a bunch of reshoots and then cancel stuff?"

Seriously, this piece of sh*t has gone back and forth from being the "Big Reboot" movie to the "Big Rebirth" movie and back HOW many times now? And now it's officially a dead duck thanks to the ACTUAL hard reboot coming up. After being re-edited into a totally different movie at least SIX times (by my ongoing count), there simply is no way it can be any good at all, it absolutely has to be a bigger disaster than Whedon's JL. But now it's also a pointless "dead duck" of a film. Who'd even bother to see it?

[Turo602]

Seriously, why would anyone want to watch Aquaman, Shazam, and The Flash? Rather than rolling with the punches and using Flash as a brand new jumping off point to tweak the status quo with actors everyone already associates with the characters and actually like and want to see again, they already threw it all out before they were even done selling us the rest of the films. What is the actual point of watching these movies now? At this point, I won't be surprised if they just Batgirl the whole thing.

[Leo656]

I wish they would.

I understand "sunk cost" but Dark Phoenix proved that people won't go see a movie they already know is pointless and never to be resolved or followed up on. HOW much is WB expecting to make, here? Let's be real, there's no way they see profit from any of them. They're hoping to just get SOME money back. But God almighty, the results are gonna be horrifying to actually watch. People thought Whedon's JL was disjointed? Yeesh!

Sadly, the only one that looks to at least be cohesive is Shazam 2. And that looks "cohesively sh*tty". But Flash and Aquaman 2, with all the edits and reshoots, are gonna be terrible. There's no way they can scrape together anything coherent.

I'd love for them to just cancel it all, since they're rebooting anyway. There is literally no point to these movies aside from "We spent too much, please come out so I can keep my mansion even though these movies don't matter now."

I mean, I won't be supporting the reboot, but I also have no interest in paying three times to see three separate DCEU funerals either. If it's done, just Be Done.

[ZariusTwo]

I would say watch the films for the experience and the story, not everything has to be dependent on long-term serialization. Movies used to get by just fine without that (though, yes, I'm reminded of 15-chapter matinee shorts a century ago with Batman, King of the Rocket Men, Flash Gordon etc)

But we're not expecting these films to be coherent are we? As Leo says, they've been hacked to death so much they likely make the Quest For Peace look like the final edit of the original version of A New Hope. Count no less than three 'theatrical BVS/theatrical JL' type movies, plus impossible to navigate P.R optics with Cavil, Affleck, Amber and Ezra controversies

It's not just an internet thing to be mad over, this stuff makes national headlines. I saw the Cavill thing make prime time news over here in the UK. This won't be a disconnected public going in blind with these films.

[AquaParade]

I think Flash is going to do well.

[IMJ]

They should've doubled down on the "big 3" after Flashpoint and simply produced three flicks:

A definitive "character" movie that got to the core of each of the Big 3 using Cavil, Gadot and Affleck. A Superman movie against Braniac or Mongul. A Wonder Woman movie against maybe Silver Banshee (Superman villain or not). A Batman movie that conforms to the solo Batman scenes that we saw in BvS.

Honestly, that simple and the DC would've probably been reinvigorated.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

I think Flash is going to do well.

You are the epitome of "This is fine"

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

You are the epitome of "This is fine"

How so? Test screenings being so positive is the only reason they haven’t trashed this film. It’s gotta have something going for it. Otherwise there is no way you’d want anything to do with Ezra Miller at this point. Zaslav isn’t afraid of sinking projects and cutting his losses. We will see. Save this post.

[Andrew NDB]

I don't understand why they'd cut the cameos. If they truly are hard rebooting, what's the big deal with one last hurrah?

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I don't understand why they'd cut the cameos. If they truly are hard rebooting, what's the big deal with one last hurrah?

Good question but maybe they want to curb expectations for seeing these characters again. Maybe the cameos open doors. I think the current stance is “it’s been dragged out long enough. It’s time to put it down.”

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I don't understand why they'd cut the cameos. If they truly are hard rebooting, what's the big deal with one last hurrah?

They probably are scenes that were setting up things for future movies that no longer are going to happen. If they were left in, the audience might end up thinking more movies are coming along to continue the storyline, and since that's not the case it's probably a simple matter of not wanting to confuse or mislead people. Not everyone reads the trades, most people in the general audience have no idea about the various studio shenanigans, or maybe like they heard there's some shakeups at WB/DC but they don't follow closely or keep track. So if they see a scene with Cavill's Superman or Gadot's Wonder Woman and it's clearly foreshadowing something which is now off the table, that would only lead to more confusion among the casual audience.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by Turo602

Seriously, why would anyone want to watch Aquaman, Shazam, and The Flash? Rather than rolling with the punches and using Flash as a brand new jumping off point to tweak the status quo with actors everyone already associates with the characters and actually like and want to see again, they already threw it all out before they were even done selling us the rest of the films. What is the actual point of watching these movies now? At this point, I won't be surprised if they just Batgirl the whole thing.

Shazam only because the first one was well-received with audiences.

With no Wonder Woman 3, there's really no point in having Gadot around even though I like her WW.

[ZariusTwo]

The movie is getting a superbowl TV spot, marking Warner's return to the game after 17 years

https://www.thewrap.com/warner-bros-...e-flash-promo/

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

The movie is getting a superbowl TV spot, marking Warner's return to the game after 17 years

https://www.thewrap.com/warner-bros-...e-flash-promo/

See, that shows confidence in the project. “This is fine.”

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

See, that shows confidence in the project. “This is fine.”

They had confidence in Black Adam, until they didn't.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

They had confidence in Black Adam, until they didn't.

How did they show confidence in Black Adam? Rock was a one-man press tour, and begged WBD and Cavill to play along.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

The movie is getting a superbowl TV spot, marking Warner's return to the game after 17 years

https://www.thewrap.com/warner-bros-...e-flash-promo/

Originally Posted by AquaParade

See, that shows confidence in the project. “This is fine.”

Sounds like a desperate “Hail Mary” pass to me!

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Sounds like a desperate “Hail Mary” pass to me!

Paying for a superbowl ad? Maybe but I don’t know. That seems like the opposite of cutting your losses, which is exactly what they seem to be doing with. actions like canceling Batgirl, cutting cameos from Flash that are no longer relevant, etc

I’d think that if they have no confidence in a film, they’d let it die, not promote the ever living hell out of it.

I mean, they do need a bit of a Hail Mary considering what they’ve been through lately, but I’ve got to think they believe they have something positive here if they are going to push it this hard, while canceling everything else.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

With no Wonder Woman 3, there's really no point in having Gadot around even though I like her WW.

There's been no definitive word on WW3 or Gadot, beyond them either not liking Patty's script or it not fitting or with things otherwise just being on hold until Gunn has a firm plan for everything.