Aquaman & The Lost Kingdom

[ProphetofGanja]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

lol, a whole year later, pretty much. Shesus. Almost 6 years between movies, what a great idea.

Another slam dunk for the WB execs

[Andrew NDB]

Might as well just retitle it "The Aquaman" at this point. Hope nobody notices.

[AquaParade]

And supposedly Cavill is back in Black Adam, for the end credits or something. Still a rumor but high chance of being true, given the sources.

Seems they are building to a new JL, but who knows if Snyder comes back. I don’t see it happening and I don’t want it to, but my feeling is that they don’t know who will direct it yet.

I wouldn’t mind seeing Snyder do another Superman movie or another DC movie in general, but I don’t want to see his awful take on evil future Superman against edgy Batman and Joker, which looked like complete dog sh1t.

[Andrew NDB]

All I want to see Snyder do in the DCEU is finish out his Man of Steel trilogy. When we were going to get Brainiac in part 2 and all. Or better yet just treat Man of Steel like The Hobbit, and now give him a proper "Superman" trilogy.

Just don't make him the architect of the DCEU again. He's not that guy.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Just don't make him the architect of the DCEU again. He's not that guy.

Batman is mythological. But Superman isn't a "Zeus" on Earth - he's an everyman that can interact with everyone and although he does so humbly he's put on a pedestal by people.

I hate to say it, but Singer's Superman Returns captured that relatively well.

[Autbot_Benz]

According to several insiders, the DC Comics sequel has not been very well-received by test-screening audiences. In fact, it's been referred to as "the worst DC movie yet."

Looking at some of the films in this franchise, that would be quite an accomplishment!


These reactions do tend to be exaggerated, but it's not just the online "scoopers" that have been weighing-in. Jeff Sneider has also heard that Aquaman 2 is "terrible," and he seems to feel this is the reason star Jason Momoa is going to leave the lead role behind him and play Lobo going forward.

https://comicbookmovie.com/aquaman/a...0599#gs.ql7s51

[Andrew NDB]

FFS, he's not going to be playing Lobo. That's not a thing and never was a thing.

Though I'm not too surprised about the movie, if true. They just baaarely pulled it together on the first one and even then, fairly flimsy. This one? It has the potential to be super convoluted and who know what state it's in with all the Amber Heard part cutting/removal.

[AquaParade]

It’s possible he does play Lobo. Aquaman seems finished.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

It’s possible he does play Lobo. Aquaman seems finished.

Even if it's finished, they canned Batgirl when it was finished. Would WB want to risk releasing it, at this point?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

It’s possible he does play Lobo. Aquaman seems finished.

In what? There isn't going to be like a Lobo movie. 5 people would show up.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

Even if it's finished, they canned Batgirl when it was finished. Would WB want to risk releasing it, at this point?

Good question but hard to say without knowing all the financial details. This film is part of an established series that previously hit $1b, so it may be worth risking considering a lot of work is already done on it. I expect them to release it.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

Even if it's finished, they canned Batgirl when it was finished. Would WB want to risk releasing it, at this point?

Radically different scenarios. Batgirl cost them about twenty bucks to make but would have cost them a mint to market and at the end of the day was only a TV-quality affair, as they've reminded us over and over again. Also, probably horribly woke and divisive and would have made everyone involved look terrible had it ever hit the big screen.

Aquaman 2? 205 million dollar budget with multiple reshoots at this point. It's coming out, period.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

Even if it's finished, they canned Batgirl when it was finished. Would WB want to risk releasing it, at this point?

I thought this too - or go straight to streaming or D2DVD with it or something. They can save face by saying they are "releasing it for the fans" while they focus on their new projects.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

In what? There isn't going to be like a Lobo movie. 5 people would show up.

It could be in anything. He could play a villain in a film, the star of a series, or a low-budget film.

I don't see any reason for it not to happen. Aquaman is more well known, but beggers can't be choosers and Aquaman's universe is ending, at least for now. If the guy can secure himself another job, with a character he may even find more interesting, then it seems likely enough to me.

In fact, James also mentioned that he and Cavill were discussing future projects in which Cavill could appear, perhaps not as Superman. I'm betting Gunn is offering a lot of "severance jobs" to people who have been through the ringer with the previous management and are now getting snuffed out of a job. Maybe they are minor roles compared to Aquaman or Superman, but it both throws previous actors a bone and gives James Gunn a chance to bring in quality talent in smaller roles.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Radically different scenarios. Batgirl cost them about twenty bucks to make but would have cost them a mint to market and at the end of the day was only a TV-quality affair, as they've reminded us over and over again. Also, probably horribly woke and divisive and would have made everyone involved look terrible had it ever hit the big screen.

Aquaman 2? 205 million dollar budget with multiple reshoots at this point. It's coming out, period.

Agreed. There is more money invested in Aquaman, more completed, and it's already made a name for itself, so it's guaranteed to make something.

[Andrew NDB]

Momoa wrote a treatment where Aquaman goes to the UN to fight to stop shrinking ice caps? Uuuuugh.

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/j...os-1235597094/

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Momoa wrote a treatment where Aquaman goes to the UN to fight to stop shrinking ice caps? Uuuuugh.

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/j...os-1235597094/

Reminds me of Superman 4, which was basically political pamphlet of Reeves. And we know how this movie ended.
My take - let Momoa embarrass himself and tank his carrier, if he wants to be a politician as opposed to a court jester.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Reminds me of Superman 4, which was basically political pamphlet of Reeves. And we know how this movie ended.
My take - let Momoa embarrass himself and tank his carrier, if he wants to be a politician as opposed to a court jester.

Though he isn't wrong in the article. He's made a bunch of really cool stuff that nobody talks about. Like mini-series stuff. It's just he is only making big money from stuff where, yeah, he is the jester.

[ZariusTwo]

It's worth noting that by the end of Superman IV, the message is how wrong Clark was and that it wasn't his right to relieve humanity of their weapons

[ZariusTwo]

Details on the rocky road of production, including the multiple reshoots and word of several failed test screenings

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/mo...ts-1235532158/

The latest round of cuts include omitting any appearance from Batman, be it Keaton or Affleck

[Sumac]

Aquaman & the Lost Money.