is tmnt over

[CyberCubed]

guys i think tmnt is over



snake says that it's over.

goodbye tmnt

[Cowabung-Gal]

IDW TMNT? Probably.

TMNT in general? Not by a long shot. It’s like that one cockroach you can’t kill no matter what you do to it. It’s here to stay.

[neatoman]

Uh, yeah. IDW the company is going under and while they will likely hold on to the license for a few more years, it's doubtful they will be able to indefinitely. As for the Paramount/Nickelodeon side of things, not entirely sure? Depends on how well Mutant Mayhem does, since it seems to be what they are hedging their bets on here. Even if it fails, then you could still expect them to keep trying to revitalise the franchise.

[CyberCubed]

If mayhem doesn't do well in the box office (and I honestly doubt it will), it will be the third movie box office bomb Paramount had after the 2014 and 2016 movies. Rise of the TMNT was also canceled early (Season 2's episode order was cut in half, and they were planning a Season 3), due to the show not being received well. Had Netflix not paid for that Rise movie it probably would not have finished production either.

IDW's TMNT run will probably end by 2024-2025 at the latest, and after that TMNT will be over. I also think the Nick 2012 cartoon was the last overall successful venture Viacom had with the franchise and the show has been over for 5 years now.

[Monty Mole]

I really hope so

[Zachatello00]

I don’t imagine Nickelodeon will stop trying. I suspect MM will do better than Rise, but I also think there’s a reason the more traditional TMNT iterations have been more successful. I imagine they’ll keep rebooting it into obscurity like every other super hero/action franchise.

If, however, I’m wrong, and it is, as you propose “over”, it still lives on for me. I don’t care about most of what NICK has done with the brand, though. So, it can live or die, and I’ll still be happy to watch the original movies and read the original comics.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

It is up to the 2020's will determ that. We will probably know more in time for the 50th anniversary in May 2034.

[The Deadman]

Originally Posted by Monty Mole

I really hope so

I dont

10 characters

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by The Deadman

I dont

10 characters

Could you explain your position? Preferably in ten characters or more.

[HotJuicyBurgers]

IDW Tmnt might end soon but it’ll get rebooted again.

The real question is if Peter will ever make good on his rights to publish a comic. That’d be cool.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by Zachatello00

I don’t imagine Nickelodeon will stop trying. I suspect MM will do better than Rise, but I also think there’s a reason the more traditional TMNT iterations have been more successful. I imagine they’ll keep rebooting it into obscurity like every other super hero/action franchise.

I'm not so sure I fully agree with that. Out Of The Shadows was essentially the 80s animated series in live action. Aside from a few things it was reasonably accurate to the show and it was the first TMNT movie to lose money.

Mutant Mayhem looks like another Fred Wolf inspired take right down to the coloured pads and initialised belt buckles. Some changes here and there but it looks like a reasonable modernised take on the show and while I don't think it's going to flop I doubt it will set the box office alight.

The only definitive success that TMNT has had recently is The Last Ronin. You could make a case for that being a 'traditional' take in the idea that it harkens back to the darker original comics but it's set up of only having one turtle and set in a dystopian future is certainly different to what a lot of people would expect from TMNT.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by Monty Mole

I really hope so

Do you want the Turtles to rest in peace instead?

[Monty Mole]

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

Do you want the Turtles to rest in peace instead?

With the direction the Turtles have taken over the years since the sale, yes.

[CyberCubed]

tmnt is over, boys, pack it up

[MrPliggins]

I thought TMNT was over multiple times. The original cartoon’s season 1,2, and 3 finales. The slow point between 1998 and 2002. At this point I think it’s safe to say they are here to stay. Maybe not always with new content, but with some kind of presence. They are an established pop culture entity at this point.

[IMJ]

No, not at all. TMNT has the virtue of being a relatively timeless franchise that lends itself to various artist interpretations (for better or worse) and across time. You could just as easily do Fred Wolf TMNT as you could "TMNT 2099" in some kind of Blade Runner style city if you really wanted to.

We are just in a phase of TMNT that doesn't work, reflecting the sensibility of a generation of creators and once we get beyond that it can be reinvented again.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IMJ

No, not at all. TMNT has the virtue of being a relatively timeless franchise that lends itself to various artist interpretations (for better or worse) and across time. You could just as easily do Fred Wolf TMNT as you could "TMNT 2099" in some kind of Blade Runner style city if you really wanted to.

We are just in a phase of TMNT that doesn't work, reflecting the sensibility of a generation of creators and once we get beyond that it can be reinvented again.

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

Do you want the Turtles to rest in peace instead?

If we can't get to a phase of TMNT that does work then yes, MORE than OK with TMNT resting in peace indefinitely. Why would I want TMNT Product™ out there that is horrible? Just to have TMNT Product™ out there at all? Is that supposed to give me some kind of comfort, knowing that there are new kiddies consuming said TMNT Product™? Weird. It does the opposite, if it doesn't work. It just means in 10 years those kiddies will grow up with a false expectation of what TMNT is or should be because they grew up watching crap TMNT, if anything (and then yell at me on social media).

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

If we can't get to a phase of TMNT that does work then yes, MORE than OK with TMNT resting in peace indefinitely. Why would I want TMNT Product™ out there that is horrible? Just to have TMNT Product™ out there at all? Is that supposed to give me some kind of comfort, knowing that there are new kiddies consuming said TMNT Product™? Weird. It does the opposite, if it doesn't work. It just means in 10 years those kiddies will grow up with a false expectation of what TMNT is or should be because they grew up watching crap TMNT, if anything (and then yell at me on social media).

I do agree with this too. I do believe that TMNT is such a fundamental premise that it's an evergreen franchise, but yeah - if the property simply went away at this point I wouldn't care.

TMNT '12 was entertaining enough that it drew people back in. Most people didn't mind spending my time with it. Rise did not draw people in and it failed. It's just the way it works.

[Monty Mole]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

If we can't get to a phase of TMNT that does work then yes, MORE than OK with TMNT resting in peace indefinitely. Why would I want TMNT Product™ out there that is horrible? Just to have TMNT Product™ out there at all? Is that supposed to give me some kind of comfort, knowing that there are new kiddies consuming said TMNT Product™? Weird. It does the opposite, if it doesn't work. It just means in 10 years those kiddies will grow up with a false expectation of what TMNT is or should be because they grew up watching crap TMNT, if anything (and then yell at me on social media).

Exactly!! People are like "just be grateful we're getting TMNT stuff at all."

Like getting a turd sandwich and people saying "just be grateful you got something".

It's so annoying.

[Drose18]

voting yes until viacom notices tmnt 2003


edit: still hope new movie is good and idw keeps going would be sad if either of these things didnt happen