Donald Trump Hush money trial

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

No guaranteed paid maternity leave. That's an important distinction you're omitting. Most states do, though, and in mine even me as the father get to take a bunch of paid months off of work for paternity leave under the PFML right after the mother gets done taking hers. Mine starts in September.

True, I missed the word "paid" out. It's still an horrendous omission though being left to the discretion of individual employers to offer it. Between that and only being guaranteed two weeks vacation time, no wonder so many American workers get burned out. But but more work, more productive, well sorry, studies show that isn't the case, most likely the opposite, and the US is generally seen as the most overworked nation in the world.

I'm glad to hear that you're able to take some quality paternity leave too, we get two weeks paid by default here in the UK (which I took), and likewise I could have shared some of the full paid time off from the better half, but chose not to, we discussed it and she had all the allocation. In fact there's NO maximum maternity leave limit here, you just receive less money after six months instead of full pay. I still had some money left from my previous redundancy so I suplemented our income with some of that to give her more time with our daughter. Who then went straight into nursery when she returned to work heh.

Originally Posted by ChosenOne

Uh... You do know I'm not American, yeah...? Or did you just assume? "America isn't the world"... Oops, so much for your know-it-all-itis!

Should have quoted IMJ there as that's who I was mostly referring to.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

This thread is why I don't get involved in politics.

Just a bunch of people who think they know best insulting others with different political views.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Whatswiththeheadbands?

This thread is why I don't get involved in politics.

Just a bunch of people who think they know best insulting others with different political views.

You have to strongly consider your audience. If you discuss politics in a group of people who have the same educational foundation in politics then there is a baseline that everyone understands.

The frustration here isn't varying opinions. It's the opinions built from foundations of understanding that are inherently wrong or uninformed that leads to the issues.

Basically if you talk politics with educated people you get different disagreement. You talk politics with the peasant thinker and you get a lot of projection, virtue-signaling and nonsense.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

True, I missed the word "paid" out. It's still an horrendous omission though being left to the discretion of individual employers to offer it.

Well no no, it should never fall to the individual employers. Because could you imagine? Let's say you baaaarely cobble together enough money after 20 years to open up a coffee shop. You hire a couple of ladies to run it, then after a few months one of them is out on maternity leave... that you then have to pay her for? To stay home for months, while you have to pay another person to take her place and keep the coffee shop alive? How could that possibly be sustainable?

But in this state, like 3 years ago they introduced what basically amounts to a $3 tax every paycheck for everybody, everywhere here and we're all paying into like a pool to proliferate the PFML here in advance of it rolling out. Which I have questions about but am more or less OK with it.

[TurtleManiac]

Originally Posted by ChosenOne

When all they know and are is hate, all they'll talk about is hate.

Well the thing is, it’s ok when THEY do it, in the name of “social justice”, the “greater good”, being on the “right side of history”.

Originally Posted by Mayhem

And the Republican party used to be fairly socialist by comparison, at least during the Civil War, to the Democrats. And at some point they kind of swapped around their positions. America isn't the world. Just because YOU have one interpretation of political spectrum that you steadfastly refuse to budge on doesn't mean every other country is the same. And weirdly enough, none of them do, at least the non communist ones.

In the same way you have no guaranteed maternity leave by law, and refuse to change from imperial measurements... even though practically every other country in the world has.

The “party switch” theory Yup heard that one before, how they claim it was today’s Republicans who founded the KKK and the Democrats freed the slaves. By that logic, years from now they will be saying it was the right who were pushing masks, forced vaccines and covid fear mongering, and how the left was against all that.

[Andrew NDB]

Unfortunately Schwarzenegger is right here:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...t-wtcw-vpx.cnn

[TurtleManiac]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Unfortunately Schwarzenegger is right here:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...t-wtcw-vpx.cnn

Only because our spineless Republicans in congress have allowed the Democrats to turn the U.S. into a banana republic. The uniparty it’s a big club of corrupt commies from both sides, and Trump ain’t in it. Side note: Schwarzenegger’s father was an actual nazi.

[Sumac]

Trump ain't part of corrupted cartel of millionaires?
LOL, good joke.

He is not part of DemoRep establishment, but is he a corrupted businessman with an enormous influence?
No ****, Sherlock, he is!!

Originally Posted by TurtleManiac

Side note: Schwarzenegger’s father was an actual nazi.

And what it has to do with anything?
I don't believe into inter-generational responsibility and such arguments are effectively dumb and useless.

[TurtleManiac]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Trump ain't part of corrupted cartel of millionaires?
LOL, good joke.

He is not part of DemoRep establishment, but is he a corrupted businessman with an enormous influence?
No ****, Sherlock, he is!!

Yeah, I was referring to the DC Establishment swamp. Yeah he’s a billionaire, so what? There’s good ones and bad ones. Bill Gates is also a billionaire.

Originally Posted by Sumac

And what it has to do with anything?
I don't believe into inter-generational responsibility and such arguments are effectively dumb and useless.

Like father, like son. Another famous nazi sympathizer (AND billionaire) George Soros, has his son following in his footsteps.

Here’s Arnold Schwarzenegger telling Americans “screw your freedoms” for not wanting to take the forced covid vaccines:

https://twitter.com/vision4theblind/...i_WCmajzODFHMQ

I did not see that coming. These are the kind of people being given a huge platform to promote socialism. Nevertrumpers.

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by TurtleManiac

The “party switch” theory Yup heard that one before, how they claim it was today’s Republicans who founded the KKK and the Democrats freed the slaves. By that logic, years from now they will be saying it was the right who were pushing masks, forced vaccines and covid fear mongering, and how the left was against all that.

No, I’m talking about political spectrum wise, during the Civil War, the Republican Party of Lincoln sat roughly where the Democrats do today, and the Democratic Party sat roughly where the Republicans are today. So yes, the Republicans back then comparatively were more “liberal” than the Democrats.

But in the same way that blue used to be for girls and pink used to be for boys during that time, at some point hence the parties flipped their political ideologies and place on the political spectrum. Even then Lincoln wasn’t convinced freeing the slaves was the best idea but went along with a vocal majority in his party.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by TurtleManiac

Yeah, I was referring to the DC Establishment swamp. Yeah he’s a billionaire, so what? There’s good ones and bad ones. Bill Gates is also a billionaire.

Trump is good?
Damn, mate, you are delusional.

Originally Posted by TurtleManiac

Like father, like son. Another famous nazi sympathizer (AND billionaire) George Soros, has his son following in his footsteps.

Those things are nowhere near comparable.
Please, jump into a hole (in the Minecraft).

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Trump is good?
Damn, mate, you are delusional.

He kept the monsters in check for four years. That's good enough in my book.

[Mayhem]

Why not surprised here… he’s broke…

[ChosenOne]

Yes, I'm sure that's what that means and that said nameless publication is entirely trustworthy, which is why it's such a widely circulated anecdote in the hate comnunity. Say... Could I interest you in a nice turn-of-the-century bridge?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ChosenOne

He kept the monsters in check for four years. That's good enough in my book.

That's good enough for me, too. People often say, "what meaningful legislation did he pass? Name anything!" Why should him passing new laws be the benchmark of his success? The stuff he stopped dead in its tracks is more what I'm interested in.

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

That's good enough for me, too. People often say, "what meaningful legislation did he pass? Name anything!" Why should him passing new laws be the benchmark of his success? The stuff he stopped dead in its tracks is more what I'm interested in.

And especially now, when everyone can see what the world looks like without Trump in the White House.

[Sumac]

I agree that he had kept SJWs at bay and his mere presence incised them enough so they went completely insane and compromised themselves, but this alone doesn't make Trump a "good guy".

He is a corrupted narccisistic politician, whose goals so far had aligned with goals of adequate people.

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by Sumac

He is a corrupted narccisistic politician

You and I at least agree on this point.

[ChosenOne]

Who said anything about the SJWs? They're annoying, sure, but not a real threat. I meant the dangerous crazies like Putin and Xi and Kim. For all of the leftard conspiracy theories, Putin's so f*cking afraid of Trump that he even put his precious invasion on hold for four years... China was being humbled, Kim was almost talked into a historic peace treaty, and then Biden steals the election and suddenly we're discussing nuclear war, spy balloons fly leisurely over the US, and there’s a new missile test in the Korean peninsula every week.

F*ck this state of affairs and f*ck whoever's fine with it because they can't handle a normal cisgender man as their President. We could all die in a flash because of your/their stupidity. But hey, at least no more mean Tweets to hurt your fee-fees, amirite?

[Cowabung-Gal]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

There’s a reason millions of former Democrats here in America are changing to the Independent Party and fleeing Democrat-run cities in droves