TMNT: Mutant Mayhem

[IndigoErth]

Ohhhhh! Neat! Don't think we have that where I'm at so really just thought "4D" was a typo. lol

Ya know, a VR headset that can adjust focus and make glasses not even needed to view something in 3D someday would be awesome.

[Roseangelo]

I got the Junior Novelization today. Will report fully tomorrow, but so far... there is very little substance here. And the origin story is... well, they didn't spend a lot of time thinking through that part.

[newhire13]

Originally Posted by Roseangelo

I got the Junior Novelization today. Will report fully tomorrow, but so far... there is very little substance here. And the origin story is... well, they didn't spend a lot of time thinking through that part.

Well it is a kids book lol

Promo with parts of the origin. Like with the 2012 show it looks like mutation hurts:
https://youtu.be/jtHUYbrGcJE

[Autbot_Benz]

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by newhire13

Well it is a kids book lol

For a kids movie. It's probably dead-on.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Roseangelo

I got the Junior Novelization today. Will report fully tomorrow, but so far... there is very little substance here. And the origin story is... well, they didn't spend a lot of time thinking through that part.

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

… Like... What's wrong with it? A rat finds four baby turtles in a sewer covered ooze, that was the origin in 1984, 1990 and 2003. It's not like the clip itself deviates from anything I expected.

Did they do the "Hamato Yoshi replaced with an instruction book" thing again?

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

Well at least this movie has the origin of Splinter going from a rat to a mutant instead of Hamato Yoshi turning into a rat.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Zulithe

few featurette

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

They're really trying to market this to the weirdo pedo fans, aren't they?

[ranger_scout]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

I was actually kind of expecting this movie to go the route that Spider-Man: Homecoming took where they wouldn't show the origin story since it has been done in many iterations, but I guess enough time has passed where kids who born ten years ago or so might not know it.

[Donnie]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

They're really trying to market this to the weirdo pedo fans, aren't they?

I see more and more marketing for Gen Z. Snapchat filters and all that garbage. Shame.

[Roseangelo]

Originally Posted by neatoman

… Like... What's wrong with it? A rat finds four baby turtles in a sewer covered ooze, that was the origin in 1984, 1990 and 2003. It's not like the clip itself deviates from anything I expected.

Did they do the "Hamato Yoshi replaced with an instruction book" thing again?

Spoiler:

The rat has no ties to Japan or martial arts at all. None of them do. The five of them go up to Times Square when the Turtles are younger and—surprise—all the people freak out. So Splinter decides they need to learn martial arts. So he watches internet videos (because apparently they have the internet [and, later, cell phones]) and they all become ninja masters.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Roseangelo

Spoiler:

The rat has no ties to Japan or martial arts at all. None of them do. The five of them go up to Times Square when the Turtles are younger and—surprise—all the people freak out. So Splinter decides they need to learn martial arts. So he watches internet videos (because apparently they have the internet [and, later, cell phones]) and they all become ninja masters.

That's the most ridiculous thing I've read about this movie... since the last most ridiculous thing I've read about this movie. Just like the Bayturtles, essentially? And I'm sure I know the answer, but do they bother to explain how Michelangelo ever went to an orthodontist?

Originally Posted by Optimus Primer

What does this have to do with the videos you linked???? A crazy accusation for... featuring turtle babies in the story? Something that's been in every iteration?

What, did the shoe fit or something?

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Roseangelo

Spoiler:

The rat has no ties to Japan or martial arts at all. None of them do. The five of them go up to Times Square when the Turtles are younger and—surprise—all the people freak out. So Splinter decides they need to learn martial arts. So he watches internet videos (because apparently they have the internet [and, later, cell phones]) and they all become ninja masters.

Wow… That's… Basically a repeat of the instruction book… What's with the accent then?

Anyway, I guess the two things I really want to know is:

1. How does Baxter Stockman fit into all this?
2. Is TCRI run by aliens?

[Roseangelo]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

That's the most ridiculous thing I've read about this movie... since the last most ridiculous thing I've read about this movie. Just like the Bayturtles, essentially?

I honestly don't recall the BayTurtles origin well enough to compare... but probably?

Spoiler:

The whole thing is just very quick and light on details. Don isn't even portrayed as a tech geek. His biggest thing seems to be liking anime. At least in the book (and god, I hope they changed these for the movie), there are a lot of really weird references to 90s pop culture. And the weirdest things. The Spice Girls, Phish, Depeche Mode, Party of Five. Probably something else. Like, why do 15 yo boys who live in the sewers in 2023 know about these things above all the other things? It's so weird.

And people are going to haaaate what they did to Bebop and Rocksteady. They are basically just background mutants along with the full lineup of others. Mondo Gecko gets to most attention; everyone else just exists.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Roseangelo

I honestly don't recall the BayTurtles origin well enough to compare... but probably?

Spoiler:

The whole thing is just very quick and light on details. Don isn't even portrayed as a tech geek. His biggest thing seems to be liking anime. At least in the book (and god, I hope they changed these for the movie), there are a lot of really weird references to 90s pop culture. And the weirdest things. The Spice Girls, Phish, Depeche Mode, Party of Five. Probably something else. Like, why do 15 yo boys who live in the sewers in 2023 know about these things above all the other things? It's so weird.

And people are going to haaaate what they did to Bebop and Rocksteady. They are basically just background mutants along with the full lineup of others. Mondo Gecko gets to most attention; everyone else just exists.

Well, about the details I asked about though? What is Stockman's role and is TCRI run by aliens?

[Barkworm]

The origin sounds dumb of course but almost all Ninja Turtles origin stories are dumb. When I was a kid and saw the first film I cringed when I saw the rat learning Ninijtsu. IDW is probably the only version that makes sense overall.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Optimus Primer

I know you're reactionary as hell, I just don't see how having a kid character in a kid movie warrants that extreme accusation? Kinda weird to throw out there.

I'm talking about their marketing push, what they're electing to put emphasis on.

[Roseangelo]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Well, about the details I asked about though? What is Stockman's role and is TCRI run by aliens?

Sorry, I skimmed and probably missed your question.

Spoiler:

Stockman is the "father" of Superfly. I don't know if that's biological, but it might be. Basically, he has created Superfly as a baby fly mutant. At the beginning of the movie we see him working on crafting the ooze to make more mutants. A gang of TCRI soldiers attacks his lab and Stockman dies in an explosion. The explosion releases the ooze to the sewers (Turtles and Splinter), and the rest of the lab (all of the other mutants). Superfly becomes the parent of the other mutants (even though he starts out as a literal baby...???)

As for TCRI being aliens, I don't recall that being specifically revealed, but I would expect so.

[Barkworm]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I'm talking about their marketing push, what they're electing to put emphasis on.

Putting emphasis on the kid angle equals trying to appeal to pedophiles, got it.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

Putting emphasis on the kid angle equals trying to appeal to pedophiles, got it.

Plastering Turtle Tots around with a lot of "Hey, guess what we have?? We have TEEEEEEENS!!" seems pretty sus. Like, they think they know there's a big part of the fandom that's into that stuff, and I've been in the fandom long enough to know that they're right. There's some real sickos out there.