Donald Trump Hush money trial

[Andrew NDB]

I just really, really don't see Trump back in office. There's just no way to even see that happening beyond "fingers crossed, hardcore democrats voters just don't vote." I think the best thing that might happen is that these democrat attacks somehow work, voters continue to get annoyed at Trump for this, and we get him disqualified and we get someone else on the ballot. It almost doesn't even matter who it is, beyond the Christie or Haley types (the other ones are non-starters), but even there it'd be favorable to the alternative on the other side of the aisle.

[Barkworm]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

This is all true. But in regard to the indictment to that end, they're going to have to prove that he didn't believe that he didn't lose. They can't.

Is that the case they're going to make? If he actually believed he didn't lose despite the lack of evidence, wouldn't that prove that he is mentally unstable?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

Is that the case they're going to make? If he actually believed he didn't lose despite the lack of evidence, wouldn't that prove that he is mentally unstable?

Not at all. The pieces with the people showing him things and saying things doesn't matter. In the court of law, it will literally come down to what he believed in his heart of hearts. Did he believe it inside that he lost or did he not. I'm not kidding you. That's it. And good luck doing that with Trump.

The only thing they've got really against him is the classified documents case. And that stands a pretty good chance of getting thrown out outright in Florida because a pretty great defense against that was Hillary getting a pass for doing the same thing or worse just by the virtue of her being on the ballot for presidential election. Like, they'd need to show in any meaningful way how this was way different than her "bleaching" servers of classified documents and the FBI OKing it because she was up for election, but Trump keeping stuff around or waving them around but not really doing much was worse.

[Dpooly84]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

Is that the case they're going to make? If he actually believed he didn't lose despite the lack of evidence, wouldn't that prove that he is mentally unstable?

You really want to talk about mentally unstable when your president said no comment to the media asking about Hawaii after this weekend at bidens sent millions to Ukraine

[Coola Yagami]

I do find it a tad SUS they 'found' all these votes last minute and they ALL or mostly ALL just happen to be for Biden.

Like let's say those discovered votes were more Trump than Biden. Would they have announced that or kept it quiet?

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Not at all. The pieces with the people showing him things and saying things doesn't matter. In the court of law, it will literally come down to what he believed in his heart of hearts. Did he believe it inside or did he not. I'm not kidding you. That's it. And good luck doing that with Trump.

The only thing they've got really against him is the classified documents case. And that stands a pretty good chance of getting thrown out outright in Florida because a pretty great defense against that was Hillary getting a pass for doing the same thing or worse just by the virtue of her being on the ballot for presidential election. Like, they'd need to show in any meaningful way how this was way different than her "bleaching" servers of classified documents and the FBI OKing it because she was up for election, but Trump keeping stuff around or waving them around but not really doing much was worse.

Yeah but all of this is coming from a fair trial, with a fair and impartial jury and judge. That's impossible. Everyone either loves the guy or hates the guy. You'd have to find a jury of people living under rocks for the last decade or so. People that literally only know Trump as that one guy in that home alone movie. Seeing he was president that's impossible.

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by Zulithe

You Trumpers who can't stand the left should get behind a real candidate who doesn't lie and beg from his supporters for money nonstop. You're all conned and it's sad.

You sheep can't stand that you rallied behind a sick little puppet who brought the world nothing but poverty, shame and free reign for dictatorial terrorists who line his pockets and his son's, and you sh*t on Trump to make yourselves feel better about your poor choices. You're all conned and it’s not sad at all because that's to be expected from useful idiots.

[Cowabung-Gal]

These memes are hilarious. That Shawn Farash guy at 8:40 is awesome

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Yeah but all of this is coming from a fair trial, with a fair and impartial jury and judge. That's impossible. Everyone either loves the guy or hates the guy. You'd have to find a jury of people living under rocks for the last decade or so. People that literally only know Trump as that one guy in that home alone movie. Seeing he was president that's impossible.

Well, the classified documents case is being tried in Florida. So pretty good odds there will be at least one guy on the jury who will be like, "Nah, this is BS."

[robertfiduciary]

...not worth it.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by robertfiduciary

So I can just walk into any bank, anywhere in the country, insist that all the money is mine, take all of that money out with me, and I'll be fine? Because, you know. I believe "in my heart of hearts" that it's mine?

"Actually, officer, I believe in my heart of hearts that speed limit on this road is actually 120 MPH."

You see now how silly you sound? The law doesn't work that way. In fact, nothing works that way.

Doesn't work that way. Or rather, you can walk into any bank, anywhere in the country and insist all the money is yours because you believe so. Yes you can. They just won't give it to you. Same with the speeding ticket.

When trying to prove intent, Trump will literally die on the hill that the election was robbed. There's no way to convince him otherwise.

TBH it's hard to see how he would not. He was in the lead, he declared victory. There was a sudden 'BUT WAIT!!!' and suddenly all these votes appeared, coincidentally all or most being for Biden. Never in the history of a presidency has anything like this happened before. And it's also a coincidence it just so happened to happen to someone most people didn't want to win at any cost. Imagine if there was a sudden 'whoops we lost some votes' but against a loveable guy like Bill Clinton (at the time) or Obama.

The more you play it back, the more sus it looks. Now I'm not saying anything as a fact, I was not there, I didn't find the votes, count the votes, nor was I in the room when they suddenly found these extra votes. I'm just saying an awful lot of convenient things all seem to happen and fall into place. Was that election robbed? Who knows. We might never know or never be allowed to know. Is it sus as all hell? Definitely.

Like I wanted Trump out too, I also voted Biden. But I wanted Trump out the right way. Not the 'by any means necessary' way. I now want Biden out. But because he'll lose to a better candidate. Not because 'whoops we found magic votes' which won't happen anways because those sort of things don't happen to people 'on the left side of history'.

Like the cop that was involved in the death of Floyd. I wanted him found guilty the right way. Not the 'you better find him guilty or we will burn this city to the ground overnight' way. There was no way that judge was gonna make it home alive that night if for whatever reason he chose any other verdict.

[TurtleManiac]

Originally Posted by Zulithe

lies and deception against the American people. Love that dark brandon energy.

Why would anyone love that? Unless you enjoy seeing America crumble. But you’re right, he did lie to his voters about student loan forgiveness and reparations payments, and has been deceiving the American people ever since he took office in 2021, while enabling historic inflation, medical tyranny, funding an endless war with U.S. taxpayer dollars, open borders and allowing thousands of unchecked migrants to enter the U.S., and now political persecution of a former President, all part of the “dark brandon” agenda.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by robertfiduciary

So I can just walk into any bank, anywhere in the country, insist that all the money is mine, take all of that money out with me, and I'll be fine? Because, you know. I believe "in my heart of hearts" that it's mine?

This from the guy that belongs to the belief system that you can just walk into a ladies room, anywhere in the country, insist that you are a woman even though you are a man, take a huge heaping $#!( while a real woman sits uncomfortably 2 feet from you, and it should be fine? Because, you know. You believe "in your heart of hearts" that you are a woman even though you are a man?

Yeah. Might want to find something better than your convenient reversion to cliche arguments there. Especially when you are clearly unequipped to deliver legal commentary on "intent" under the domain of law.

Hater fool.

[Dpooly84]

Originally Posted by IMJ

This from the guy that belongs to the belief system that you can just walk into a ladies room, anywhere in the country, insist that you are a woman even though you are a man, take a huge heaping $#!( while a real woman sits uncomfortably 2 feet from you, and it should be fine? Because, you know. You believe "in your heart of hearts" that you are a woman even though you are a man?

Yeah. Might want to find something better than your convenient reversion to cliche arguments there. Especially when you are clearly unequipped to deliver legal commentary on "intent" under the domain of law.

Hater fool.

Facts, preach brother

[robertfiduciary]

...not worth it.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by robertfiduciary

Ignorant fool.

Anyone supporting modern left is precisely that, so I, guess, thanks for an at self-description.

[Mayhem]

If Trump is claiming to be 6'3" and 215, then believing he won the 2020 election is mere child's play

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by robertfiduciary

(...) projecting on me (...) Usually I insist on dinner and a movie first

Ewwwwww...

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by ChosenOne

Ewwwwww...

Right?

Love how that's the best that the Fidoosh has in response to a perfectly cogent point.
I could just imagine that fool reading the post above and just melting down with smoking-ears and frothing-mouth at the airtight perfection of my point.... like this:



Even more hysterical when you realize that RobertFiduciary's post above actually conforms to the spirit of this graphic perfectly when measured against the point I made:




Sorry Fidoosh - your already strained credibility is gone after that one LMFAO! SMH After you are done banging on your keyboard try to calm down and fix your life - and don't eat those plastic things on your desk - those your keys to the keyboard, you can just put them right back on.

[Coola Yagami]

Let's ease up on the personal attacks before the mods come in.

Trump doesn't care about anyone on this forum, so let's keep it calm so no one here gets in trouble or anything.