WWE RAW Talkback thread (December 1, 2003) *spoilers*

**GK Punk** · 12-01-2003, 10:04 PM

What did everyone think of Foley being back?

I was kinda dissapointed in the Matt Hardy vs Christian match, I thought the two of them could have done better.

*Taloniss* · 12-02-2003, 08:18 AM

1) Foley - as much as I love Mick, we don't need any more authority figures in the WWE. We already have Bischoff, Foley, Vince, Linda, Steph, Heyman, Austin and the "Bored of Directors"

2) Unless the Jericho/Trish and Christian/Lita angle continues in some meaningfull way, they blew a great angle. They had months of storylines form it, and it ended in a few weeks? Maybe Jericho will really fall for Trish and he'll have to convice her he's turned over a new leaf.

3) What's with Cade and Jindrak? One week they're babyfaces, next week they're tweeners. Pick a gimmick and stick with it.

4) Randy Orton still sucks.

5) A loophole: Test wasn't really fired, so is Stacey still his property? I'd be pissed if someone got my hopes of freedom up like that then said it was a lie. Hope that get's explained.

6) Goldberg/Kane should be at the PPV, not on Raw. Those two could draw against each other. HHH needs to get out of the title hunt for awhile.

7) Mark Henry needs new tights, talent, and his manager to talk more. Belee dat.

Jericho/Rico have good chemistry in the ring. Was a good little TV match.

9) Batista is coming along nicely. I see big things for him in the future, given the right gimmick. (He should go back to being Leviathen like in OVW)

10) Orton still sucks.

11) More Ric Flair please. WOOOO

That's about it for now. Hopefully Smackdown is good this week, with Benoit winning his title shot over Cena. Cena has years ahead of him, Benoit deserves it more and is near the end of his career. Plus, Benoit/Brock should be a great match.

Peanut · 12-02-2003, 09:27 AM

This is actually the second straight week I've watched RAW. I've been absent from the wrestling scene for a good deal of time, (the WWF vs wCw/ECW storyline) so you could guess I'm some what out of the loop. I personally see a lot of generic tight wearing wrestlers in the WWE right now. Sorta reminds me of the dying WCW days. It doesn't have thee dazzle it used to, but It's stuck to me again!

As for the show I thought it was all right. It's good to see Foley, though I'm kinda tired out already on the whole co-GM thing. The main event was great. That was the first HBK match I've seen in a long while and the first Goldberg match I've seen since Halloween Havoc 98 or 99 against DDP, can't remember the exact date. I can't believe how over Goldberg still is. He can still draw the fans in by the looks of it. I like the small little HHH faction. I just wish there was more of a faction war like in 98. DX vs Nation street fight anyone?

EZweasel · 12-02-2003, 09:39 AM

this has been the funiiest raw in a while. i laughed like crazy..i think the best part was when Goldberg said "ohh Yeaa" ...then when eric bishoff got bonked on the head..just the way he fell was awsum.

*Taloniss* · 12-02-2003, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Michaelangelo

I just wish there was more of a faction war like in 98. DX vs Nation street fight anyone?

Evolution (HHH, Orton, Batista) vs. Vanilla Jobber Unit (Cade, Jindrak, Maven)

*ZariusTwo* · 12-02-2003, 01:54 PM

This sounds like a really good RAW, even with the return of stale Mick Foley, I'll watch in a few days in Britain

Heck, I watch RAW every week for GOD Randy Orton anyway, RVD still sucks.

~~Reznorite420~~ · 12-02-2003, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

This sounds like a really good RAW, even with the return of stale Mick Foley, I'll watch in a few days in Britain

Heck, I watch RAW every week for GOD Randy Orton anyway, RVD still sucks.

Sheesh...every post you make is asking for a flamewar.

*Taloniss* · 12-02-2003, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

RVD still sucks.

Too true. He had horrible physchology, selling and a flip-flop moveset. Give me Jericho, Storm, Hurricane and HBK over RVD anyday.

EZweasel · 12-02-2003, 04:13 PM

there is no such thing as HBK anymore...hes just HB happy now. He is not the heart break kid. the heart break kid was cocky and thought he was all that. now he just smiles all the time and fights for he good of things. Im just awaiting the dead man to come back as "the real dead man" old school taker. i believe its gona happen very soon..

*Taloniss* · 12-02-2003, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by EZweasel

there is no such thing as HBK anymore...hes just HB happy now. He is not the heart break kid. the heart break kid was cocky and thought he was all that. now he just smiles all the time and fights for he good of things. Im just awaiting the dead man to come back as "the real dead man" old school taker. i believe its gona happen very soon..

Yeah, that's the rumor. He'll probably face Kane at WMXX.

*jeff the cheff* · 12-02-2003, 06:13 PM

I stopped watching wrestling a long time ago, I only watch like 10 mins of it every year to see what has changed and stuff. I gotta ask a question, it may seem like I'm way back but why the hell did they change WWF to WWE and why would any fans accept that? I refuse to call it WWE cause it just isn't, it's WWF. Sorry bout that

Also I wanna know if anyone minds that wrestling is fake? It used to bother me but I just got used to it and realized it's no big deal? What about anyone else?

*Taloniss* · 12-02-2003, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffthecheff

I gotta ask a question, it may seem like I'm way back but why the hell did they change WWF to WWE and why would any fans accept that?

Vince somehow broke his contract with the WWF (World Wildlife Fund) and they sued him and won. Hence, he can no longer profit of the WWF name, so they changed it to WWE.

**GK Punk** · 12-02-2003, 07:06 PM

Yeah, I was glad to See Foley back but as Co-GM? Im sick to death of Co-GM. It's gotten stale really quickly. When I thought it was a one time appearence, I was really happy though.

12-01-2003, 10:04 PM	#1
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	WWE RAW Talkback thread (December 1, 2003) spoilers What did everyone think of Foley being back? I was kinda dissapointed in the Matt Hardy vs Christian match, I thought the two of them could have done better.

12-02-2003, 09:39 AM	#4
EZweasel Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 847	this has been the funiiest raw in a while. i laughed like crazy..i think the best part was when Goldberg said "ohh Yeaa" ...then when eric bishoff got bonked on the head..just the way he fell was awsum. __________________

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12-02-2003, 04:13 PM	#9
EZweasel Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 847	there is no such thing as HBK anymore...hes just HB happy now. He is not the heart break kid. the heart break kid was cocky and thought he was all that. now he just smiles all the time and fights for he good of things. Im just awaiting the dead man to come back as "the real dead man" old school taker. i believe its gona happen very soon.. __________________

12-02-2003, 08:18 AM	#2
Taloniss Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,819	1) Foley - as much as I love Mick, we don't need any more authority figures in the WWE. We already have Bischoff, Foley, Vince, Linda, Steph, Heyman, Austin and the "Bored of Directors" 2) Unless the Jericho/Trish and Christian/Lita angle continues in some meaningfull way, they blew a great angle. They had months of storylines form it, and it ended in a few weeks? Maybe Jericho will really fall for Trish and he'll have to convice her he's turned over a new leaf. 3) What's with Cade and Jindrak? One week they're babyfaces, next week they're tweeners. Pick a gimmick and stick with it. 4) Randy Orton still sucks. 5) A loophole: Test wasn't really fired, so is Stacey still his property? I'd be pissed if someone got my hopes of freedom up like that then said it was a lie. Hope that get's explained. 6) Goldberg/Kane should be at the PPV, not on Raw. Those two could draw against each other. HHH needs to get out of the title hunt for awhile. 7) Mark Henry needs new tights, talent, and his manager to talk more. Belee dat. Jericho/Rico have good chemistry in the ring. Was a good little TV match. 9) Batista is coming along nicely. I see big things for him in the future, given the right gimmick. (He should go back to being Leviathen like in OVW) 10) Orton still sucks. 11) More Ric Flair please. WOOOO That's about it for now. Hopefully Smackdown is good this week, with Benoit winning his title shot over Cena. Cena has years ahead of him, Benoit deserves it more and is near the end of his career. Plus, Benoit/Brock should be a great match.

12-02-2003, 09:27 AM	#3
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	This is actually the second straight week I've watched RAW. I've been absent from the wrestling scene for a good deal of time, (the WWF vs wCw/ECW storyline) so you could guess I'm some what out of the loop. I personally see a lot of generic tight wearing wrestlers in the WWE right now. Sorta reminds me of the dying WCW days. It doesn't have thee dazzle it used to, but It's stuck to me again! As for the show I thought it was all right. It's good to see Foley, though I'm kinda tired out already on the whole co-GM thing. The main event was great. That was the first HBK match I've seen in a long while and the first Goldberg match I've seen since Halloween Havoc 98 or 99 against DDP, can't remember the exact date. I can't believe how over Goldberg still is. He can still draw the fans in by the looks of it. I like the small little HHH faction. I just wish there was more of a faction war like in 98. DX vs Nation street fight anyone?

12-02-2003, 06:13 PM	#11
jeff the cheff Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: 122 and an eighth Posts: 2,129	I stopped watching wrestling a long time ago, I only watch like 10 mins of it every year to see what has changed and stuff. I gotta ask a question, it may seem like I'm way back but why the hell did they change WWF to WWE and why would any fans accept that? I refuse to call it WWE cause it just isn't, it's WWF. Sorry bout that Also I wanna know if anyone minds that wrestling is fake? It used to bother me but I just got used to it and realized it's no big deal? What about anyone else?

12-02-2003, 07:06 PM	#13
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	Yeah, I was glad to See Foley back but as Co-GM? Im sick to death of Co-GM. It's gotten stale really quickly. When I thought it was a one time appearence, I was really happy though.