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Old 10-15-2023, 04:26 PM   #21
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I never really saw Doug and Patti as getting serious and married, personally.

EDIT: I always thought a large part of the appeal of the show (and their relationship) was the "first love/puppy dog crush" aspect of pre-teen kids. It's largely one-sided, but Patti really likes him as a friend but probably not beyond that. Doug's affections for her doesn't really have any substance other than the fact that he's smitten with her instantly and she's a pretty good person. His longings for her serve as the basis for his imagination to run wild with ideas, which usually serve the needs of the particular episode. At the end, he doesn't come to any deeper understanding of what his relationship to Patti "should be" but still learns something about himself. The show's theme is about enjoying childhood and growing up a little bit along the way, not that D&P are destined to end up together. And that's perfectly ok.

Now... I never really watched much of the Disney version of the show because it never hit the same way. Maybe they changed up all that.
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Old 10-15-2023, 04:27 PM   #22
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Darn, I'd have prob checked it out, at least to see how they aged them.

Likewise, I never knew Disney got Doug and produced it's own seasons with older characters.


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Old 10-18-2023, 02:37 PM   #23
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With the characters all being different colors, this is one property Disney can't race-swap.
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Old 10-18-2023, 02:41 PM   #24
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With the characters all being different colors, this is one property Disney can't race-swap.
They could still gender-swap though
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With the characters all being different colors, this is one property Disney can't race-swap.
"Life finds a way."
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Old 10-19-2023, 11:58 AM   #27
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They could still gender-swap though
Roger will be Trans if there is anything.
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Old 10-19-2023, 04:33 PM   #28
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Roger will be Trans if there is anything.
I think Patty would be the trans character. She had a deep sounding voice for a female and acted a lot like a boy. She even had a boy haircut in the Disney version. She even tried to impersonate a boy in an episode to get on the baseball team.
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Old 10-20-2023, 01:15 PM   #29
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Likewise, I never knew Disney got Doug and produced it's own seasons with older characters.
They made quite a number of changes to the characters. Plus Doug now has a baby sister named "Dirtbike", I kid you not.


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I think Patty would be the trans character. She had a deep sounding voice for a female and acted a lot like a boy. She even had a boy haircut in the Disney version. She even tried to impersonate a boy in an episode to get on the baseball team.
Connie would probably be her girlfriend. Interestingly enough, some have said that Connie would be a better love interest for Doug. I can see it for the Nick version, probably not Disney. Though with how she looks in the Disney version, I'm surprised nobody went after her.
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Connie would probably be her girlfriend. Interestingly enough, some have said that Connie would be a better love interest for Doug. I can see it for the Nick version, probably not Disney. Though with how she looks in the Disney version, I'm surprised nobody went after her.
Connie would totally be Patti's girlfriend. I could easily see Connie being a love interest for Doug. I think that she liked him because she did ask him to go to the dance in an episode. I forgot all about the baby being named Dirtbike. I saw like one or two episodes of Disney's Doug and I knew that I hated it. Watching Nick's Doug all these years later was very nostalgic. I bought the dvds even though the episodes are all on youtube.
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Connie would totally be Patti's girlfriend. I could easily see Connie being a love interest for Doug. I think that she liked him because she did ask him to go to the dance in an episode. I forgot all about the baby being named Dirtbike. I saw like one or two episodes of Disney's Doug and I knew that I hated it. Watching Nick's Doug all these years later was very nostalgic. I bought the dvds even though the episodes are all on youtube.
Wait til you see what they did to Connie in the Disney series.

Actually, the episodes were removed from YouTube long ago. I also have the Complete Nickelodeon Series DVDs. It's amazing how Disney hasn't bothered to go after the rights to the Nick series (not that Nick would ever give up the rights) since you'd think they'd want to own literally everything from an IP they currently own.
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Wait til you see what they did to Connie in the Disney series.

Actually, the episodes were removed from YouTube long ago. I also have the Complete Nickelodeon Series DVDs. It's amazing how Disney hasn't bothered to go after the rights to the Nick series (not that Nick would ever give up the rights) since you'd think they'd want to own literally everything from an IP they currently own.
I have seen what they have done with Connie. She lost a lot of weight. They basically ruined almost every character in the Disney version. It didn't vibe with me back then and it doesn't vibe with me now. Nick's version was great though. It's nice to know there are others out there that still watch Doug. I have a Beets shirt that says Killer Tofu Tour 95'. Only one person has ever understood the reference.
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I have seen what they have done with Connie. She lost a lot of weight. They basically ruined almost every character in the Disney version. It didn't vibe with me back then and it doesn't vibe with me now. Nick's version was great though. It's nice to know there are others out there that still watch Doug. I have a Beets shirt that says Killer Tofu Tour 95'. Only one person has ever understood the reference.
That's really cool that you have a Beets Shirt. They broke up in the Disney version as a matter of fact.

I've seen people that wear Nicktoons clothing and two of them have asked about Doug. No Doug merchandise besides those Funko Pops is a shame. He's also one of my most wanted characters in the Nick All Star Brawl games.
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That's really cool that you have a Beets Shirt. They broke up in the Disney version as a matter of fact.

I've seen people that wear Nicktoons clothing and two of them have asked about Doug. No Doug merchandise besides those Funko Pops is a shame. He's also one of my most wanted characters in the Nick All Star Brawl games.
I got my Beets shirt from Ebay. It is definitely an unlicensed shirt and design. It looks like a real band shirt though so I had to buy it.
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Do you think Nick would ever buy Doug back from Disney?
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Do you think Nick would ever buy Doug back from Disney?
I don't think that they would.
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I don't think that they would.
Well Jim Jinkins should.
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Connie would totally be Patti's girlfriend. I could easily see Connie being a love interest for Doug. I think that she liked him because she did ask him to go to the dance in an episode. I forgot all about the baby being named Dirtbike. I saw like one or two episodes of Disney's Doug and I knew that I hated it. Watching Nick's Doug all these years later was very nostalgic. I bought the dvds even though the episodes are all on youtube.
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I’m going to sound unpopular, but I didn’t enjoy Doug as a kid for many reasons. One of them is that Doug once had a substitute teacher who was way too naive, gullible, and completely unqualified to be a teacher. The episode that aired after that had multiple parents of his baseball team complain about their kids not getting a chance to pitch. Then the team was forced to rotate being pitcher when they didn’t have enough experience. In another episode, Doug’s friends were complete hypocrites. They were accusing him of copying an actor from a teenage soap opera just because he wore the same outfit as him when they were wearing the outfit themselves. The Christmas episode was extremely difficult to watch when Porkchop was wrongfully accused of attacking Bebe while he was trying to save her from falling in thin ice. Seeing him severely locked up was just as difficult for me in Dumbo as when Mrs. Jumbo was mistakenly locked up after she was trying to protect her son.
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I’m going to sound unpopular, but I didn’t enjoy Doug as a kid for many reasons. One of them is that Doug once had a substitute teacher who was way too naive, gullible, and completely unqualified to be a teacher. The episode that aired after that had multiple parents of his baseball team complain about their kids not getting a chance to pitch. Then the team was forced to rotate being pitcher when they didn’t have enough experience. In another episode, Doug’s friends were complete hypocrites. They were accusing him of copying an actor from a teenage soap opera just because he wore the same outfit as him when they were wearing the outfit themselves. The Christmas episode was extremely difficult to watch when Porkchop was wrongfully accused of attacking Bebe while he was trying to save her from falling in thin ice. Seeing him severely locked up was just as difficult for me in Dumbo as when Mrs. Jumbo was mistakenly locked up after she was trying to protect her son.
I'll give you the episode with the substitute teacher but I'm sure those other episodes you mentioned are not bad as you probably remembered them. There were still a lot of memorable episodes.

I think what made Doug stand out for me was that it wasn't trying too hard to be something and that I mostly related to him in wanting to fit in with others. Even though Doug got in a fair amount of unfair situations, I felt that the show wasn't mean-spirited like CatDog or a lot of episodes of Hey Arnold was, though Arnold improved on the slice of life cartoon style of Doug. But Doug felt very chill and wasn't too pretentious. His friends Skeeter and Mr. Dink gave it a more lively feeling as they each had their own quirky sense of humor that made the show less dull. Plus the music and sound effects by their voice actor Fred Newman was pretty cool!

Keep in mind I'm only speaking of the Nickelodeon version. I remember watching the Disney version on ABC but it kinda made the series a bit more bizarre and abnormal with its morals that it didn't quite feel the same.

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