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Old 08-04-2024, 03:18 PM   #21
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Made it to season 3. The season finale of 2 with Cordelia becoming a princess in the other dimension was dumb. And now this Fred/Amy Acker... not good!
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Old 08-04-2024, 06:20 PM   #22
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Fred is one of the most popular new characters of the show, lol.
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Old 08-04-2024, 10:14 PM   #23
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Fred is one of the most popular new characters of the show, lol.
But... why?
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Old 08-05-2024, 05:50 AM   #24
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I assume you haven't seen the rest of the show yet, she develops nicely over Seasons 3-5. They basically do the same thing for her they did for Gunn, introduce a new character in the last few eps of the previous season, then they become a major character and part of the group for the rest of the show. She does become "normal" as the show goes on, remember she got stuck in a random dimension as a slave for a few years.
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She just seems unnecessary. The show has a big enough cast as it is... suddenly it's make room for random neurotic white chick to become normal, over in the corner?

And Gunn barely works for me, and only at times. He seems miscast, and you can tell the kind of dialogue they're giving him is not the way he would talk in real life.
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Old 08-05-2024, 07:38 PM   #26
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Joss Whedon knows nothing about black people. Fred is great as the show goes on. She's basically a better handled version of Tara from Buffy.
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Old 08-10-2024, 04:34 PM   #27
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Fred was kind of a boring character at first. But her character really becomes a lot more interesting in seasons four and five.

Oh, and I definitely found season three to easily be the most boring of the shows five seasons.
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Old 08-10-2024, 05:13 PM   #28
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Joss Whedon knows nothing about black people.
It's not like black people like Gunn don't exist. It's just you can tell that actor is "Acting" like that's how he is, all thug and such. And it isn't very convincing. It's like Urkel playing 50 Cent or something.
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Old 02-17-2025, 02:17 PM   #29
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Just made it to the stuff with Darla giving birth to her baby with Angel. That was pretty moving, particularly her sacrifice there. I think they're slowly finding a better balance with over-arching stories and how much Wolfram & Hart they really need (or DON'T) throughout.

Not sure I'm 100% on board with the "vampire hunter" guy who was frozen for 200 years to get revenge on Angel. Maybe they needed to cast a more imposing dude for the part.
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