Avengers 5: Doomsday

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Spoiler:

he should only be about 9 years old in this movie. Unless it’s several years after current “present day” (BNW and Thunderbolt are 2027, in universe and Toussaint was born either 2018 or ‘19). The Young Avengers stuff tells me it’s not that far off.

Spoiler:

So like... Alternate Killmonger?

[ToTheNines]

So this will be almost 20 years after Spider-Man 3… any chance they have Peter get exposed to the symbiote while on Battleworld?

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

So this will be almost 20 years after Spider-Man 3… any chance they have Peter get exposed to the symbiote while on Battleworld?

Sort of wondering if that was the point of having Sony-Eddie leave a piece of symbiote in the MCU at the beginning of Venom 3.

The whole MCU is a cobbled together mess though now that used to be fun as it unfolded, but is now starting to show it's cracks.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

So this will be almost 20 years after Spider-Man 3… any chance they have Peter get exposed to the symbiote while on Battleworld?

If they're going to all the trouble of actually doing Battleworld and having Spider-Man there -- and it sounds like they are -- then I'd say yeah.

Originally Posted by IMJ

Sort of wondering if that was the point of having Sony-Eddie leave a piece of symbiote in the MCU at the beginning of Venom 3.

Wait, wasn't that at the end of Spider-Man 3? Or did they also show it again in Venom 3, which I have not seen? If they showed it again then it's definitely paying off.

[ToTheNines]

No Way Home mid-credit scene:



Opening of Venom 3 (scene is repurposed at 1:50 to about 3:15):




Doesn’t look like they showed the symbiote piece being left behind. But yeah, I still think that arc is incoming. Just feels weird if they do black suit Peter at a time in his life when he doesn’t even have anyone close to him to tell him he’s going off the deep end.

Originally Posted by IMJ

Sort of wondering if that was the point of having Sony-Eddie leave a piece of symbiote in the MCU at the beginning of Venom 3.

The whole MCU is a cobbled together mess though now that used to be fun as it unfolded, but is now starting to show it's cracks.

Yeah. Used to be when they ham-fistedly cram a character or plot into a movie… the follow up was good and worth it (and normally coming within a year or two).

Now it’s just too much to keep track of, and at least half of it stinks.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Yeah. Used to be when they ham-fistedly cram a character or plot into a movie… the follow up was good and worth it (and normally coming within a year or two).

Now it’s just too much to keep track of, and at least half of it stinks.

The actual Marvel ones always seem to eventually pay off. The Sony Marvel ones, not so much. Like what was even going on with Scorpion and the Vulture at the end of Spider-Man 1?

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

The actual Marvel ones always seem to eventually pay off. The Sony Marvel ones, not so much. Like what was even going on with Scorpion and the Vulture at the end of Spider-Man 1?

(Edited my previous post with an additional video for comparison)

Yeah they pay off but they’re awful. Like **** Ironheart. Re-re pretty much ruined Wakanda Forever for me. The Love and Thunder stuff probably won’t go anywhere. Basically anything related to Disney+. All that went in the toilet.

But hopefully Born Again corrects course.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

But hopefully Born Again corrects course.

I have high hopes! And then that they put Daredevil and Punisher into, like, everything. And Kingpin into Spider-Man movies.

Holy hell, Born Again comes out tomorrow!

[ZariusTwo]

[Andrew NDB]

That's got to be the most boring announcement video I've ever seen, for anything. Super slow reveal of directors' chairs for actors we already could pretty well assume are in the movie? Now, if there's chairs for Charlie Cox or Jon Bernthal there at the end, then I'll get excited.

[ToTheNines]

Namor is back. I thought he got metoo’d

[Autbot_Benz]

Glad Kelsey Grammar's Beast is back

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

Glad Kelsey Grammar's Beast is back

Meh, I'm not. I don't have any problem with Kelsey Grammar's Beast but... can we hurry up and meet the "Real" MCU X-Men already?

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Meh, I'm not. I don't have any problem with Kelsey Grammar's Beast but... can we hurry up and meet the "Real" MCU X-Men already?

that's not gonna happen till we are all in our 80's at the rate the MCU is going

[Vicky82]

Pretty big cast, I bet some of them will only be in the movie for about 5 mins.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

that's not gonna happen till we are all in our 80's at the rate the MCU is going

It's ridiculous. The deal with Fox and Disney was completed in 2019... that's 6 years ago. The only thing of any kind we've gotten of the "real" MCU X-Men since then is just adamantium in "Brave New World," and we didn't even really see it.

[Barkworm]

So, the film is full of Fox-Men characters? Why? Who asked for them?

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Did that trailer really need to be almost six hours long???

So we got some of the FoX-Men in it and the Fantastic Four in it, Loki will somehow return.

If anything NOW would have been a good time to slip Deadpool in there.

[neatoman]

So based on the leaks, what are the odds of Latveria and/or Doom existing in the noral MCU? Because I've seen rumors that "Sokovia" is just a modernised name for Latveria.

[Coola Yagami]

So um... so far it looks like we're gonna get Thor, Loki, Winter Soldier, Sam Wilson, Shuri, Shang Chi, Ghost, Red Guardian, White Widow, Ant Man, the new Fantastic Four, Xavier, Magneto, Beast, Cyclops, Gambit, Mystique, Nightcrawler and Punisher. Am I missing anyone? Not counting of course, RDJ as Doom. I wonder if Thor and Loki will interact.

Who are gonna be the actual Avengers in this Avengers movie? So far I only see Sam, Thor, Ant Man and War Machine maybe? Shuri maybe? She's the new Black Panther right (never saw the unnecessary sequel). Are they gonna draft the Fantastic Four and Thunderbolts as temp Avengers? Is Doom a new villain from the Fox-Men verse that somehow came over to the MCU and thus the Fox-Men followed him?

I'm thinking the Fox X-Men are here to finally, finally, FINALLY have their last hurrah? I mean we have X3, Days of Future Past, Phoenix, Logan and Deadpool and Wolverine. Maybe this will be the final end for them so we can move on to the MCU versions?