Is there a "toxicity" in this fandom? - Page 26

ticktack · 08-09-2025, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

2010? That was a dead year.

I do remember the OT vs. NT stuff from like 2002-2006 when I was just a lurker. I loved the 4kids and hadn’t yet reconnected with FW outside of season 1, so I was biased. But most of the NT haters didn’t have anything interesting or insightful to say. “Where’s Bebop? Shredder is supposed to be funny? What happened to all the pizza?”

*laugh emoji* ×2
*tad sad*

Yeah, some major cultural shock did emerge. Ot fans thought the Nt went too alienated from habitual, native Ot.

It also didn't have any of the monster of the week thing. And mutations were reptile, rat originated. Just 5 of them were mute's I guess.

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On the other hand 16 years of ot oblivion is a pain the current generation doesn’t know, didn't experience.

Somewhere it might be a reason that in 2010s owning the tmnt, they dished it back at 2003 era and the fans, right? The episodes didn't air, ot's did, and the DVD full release was delayed so long, almost like no hope. yes. Aha. >_>

-_- *roll eyes emoji*

*IndigoErth* · 08-09-2025, 10:44 AM

I'm not sure what's even happening now.

Agree a lot of it is people being too thin skinned now though. That doesn't mean anything goes, some people still need calling out if they're just crossing lines too far in a given online community, but there's many out there anymore who can't even deal with debate or someone else thinking something negative about a thing they like. Too much personal identity is wrapped up in anything now and people react like it's a personal attack if you criticize something.

*CyberCubed* · 08-09-2025, 11:41 PM

Nah, the internet has changed a LOT from 20 years ago, you look at old threads posted between 2000-2008 and you see how different everyone posted. And I don't just mean here, I mean virtually any forum on the internet that is still around. Of course most people nowadays are on reddit, twitter or youtube, so unless you engage in social media you won't always notice it.

What's funny is the internet really was more "cruel" in the early 2000's, for lack of a better word. People were straight up having flame wars everywhere and the mods just let the threads keep going and didn't close them or ban anyone. People were straight up calling each other, "mental retards" or "stupid bastards" straight to their faces on forums.

Some of the stuff you could get away with saying back then you can't say now or risk getting banned. And this goes double for anything involving sexism, racism, homosexuality, etc. Even threads talking about how hot famous women are now is pretty much frowned upon outside of established communities for it. Forum etiquette has changed.

*ToTheNines* · 08-10-2025, 02:29 PM

It doesn’t really matter now because things are so chill, but I never really agreed with the mod style here. If two members are having a heated exchange, who cares? If it’s interesting I’ll read it all, if it’s stupid I’ll just… simply not read it lol. Either way they’ll tucker out eventually and the thread will get back on topic. I think the mods should only step in if it’s spam, racial or gendered slurs, porn, or something illegal.

Back in the day I felt too many solid contributors were cracked down on while obnoxious clowns were getting away with murder. Then again, I was temp banned 4 separate times and always assumed it was 3 strikes you’re out, but was shown a little leeway and most of the scum got dealt with eventually.

I think this place mainly has a bad reputation because the IDW book, Rise and Mutant Mayhem all started engaging in LGBTQ stories and race swapping characters, followed by a lot of pushback. Some I agree with, some I don’t. At the end of the day, I don’t think anyone would have cared too much about Jennika and her lesbian pig girlfriend if the story was still good. The art was mostly great, but that’s only gonna get you so far.

Same goes for Rise. I ended up liking it but Rise April is annoying and stupid, so a lot of people didn’t like her, race aside. Then of course the people with a sensitivity to culture war **** were gonna dig their heels in. If she was actually a good character people would have got over it eventually.

Basically the whole world went nuts in 2020 and not even TMNT was safe lol. This place has a reputation for being a rightwing hell hole but we still have several liberal members who seem to get along just fine. I dunno.

*Andrew NDB* · 09-30-2026, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

It doesn’t really matter now because things are so chill, but I never really agreed with the mod style here. If two members are having a heated exchange, who cares? If it’s interesting I’ll read it all, if it’s stupid I’ll just… simply not read it lol.

But then how can they keep you safe?

08-09-2025, 10:44 AM	#502
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,295	I'm not sure what's even happening now. Agree a lot of it is people being too thin skinned now though. That doesn't mean anything goes, some people still need calling out if they're just crossing lines too far in a given online community, but there's many out there anymore who can't even deal with debate or someone else thinking something negative about a thing they like. Too much personal identity is wrapped up in anything now and people react like it's a personal attack if you criticize something.

08-09-2025, 11:41 PM	#503
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	Nah, the internet has changed a LOT from 20 years ago, you look at old threads posted between 2000-2008 and you see how different everyone posted. And I don't just mean here, I mean virtually any forum on the internet that is still around. Of course most people nowadays are on reddit, twitter or youtube, so unless you engage in social media you won't always notice it. What's funny is the internet really was more "cruel" in the early 2000's, for lack of a better word. People were straight up having flame wars everywhere and the mods just let the threads keep going and didn't close them or ban anyone. People were straight up calling each other, "mental retards" or "stupid bastards" straight to their faces on forums. Some of the stuff you could get away with saying back then you can't say now or risk getting banned. And this goes double for anything involving sexism, racism, homosexuality, etc. Even threads talking about how hot famous women are now is pretty much frowned upon outside of established communities for it. Forum etiquette has changed.

08-10-2025, 02:29 PM	#504
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,363	It doesn’t really matter now because things are so chill, but I never really agreed with the mod style here. If two members are having a heated exchange, who cares? If it’s interesting I’ll read it all, if it’s stupid I’ll just… simply not read it lol. Either way they’ll tucker out eventually and the thread will get back on topic. I think the mods should only step in if it’s spam, racial or gendered slurs, porn, or something illegal. Back in the day I felt too many solid contributors were cracked down on while obnoxious clowns were getting away with murder. Then again, I was temp banned 4 separate times and always assumed it was 3 strikes you’re out, but was shown a little leeway and most of the scum got dealt with eventually. I think this place mainly has a bad reputation because the IDW book, Rise and Mutant Mayhem all started engaging in LGBTQ stories and race swapping characters, followed by a lot of pushback. Some I agree with, some I don’t. At the end of the day, I don’t think anyone would have cared too much about Jennika and her lesbian pig girlfriend if the story was still good. The art was mostly great, but that’s only gonna get you so far. Same goes for Rise. I ended up liking it but Rise April is annoying and stupid, so a lot of people didn’t like her, race aside. Then of course the people with a sensitivity to culture war **** were gonna dig their heels in. If she was actually a good character people would have got over it eventually. Basically the whole world went nuts in 2020 and not even TMNT was safe lol. This place has a reputation for being a rightwing hell hole but we still have several liberal members who seem to get along just fine. I dunno.