Superman (2025 film)

[sdp]

It's not desperation move, it's just how things work now, they get more money that way. The Mario movie also came out digitally at around the same timeframe, perhaps even less time and it still did banger numbers. It already did better than Man of Steel so they can say it's a "success", Superman just doesn't sell that many tickets, superhero movies are no longer cool, DC had a bad reputation. I'd say the movie did very well counting it had everything going against it.

Jurassic World has dinosaurs which are less played out so it did better than both superhero movies.

[ZariusTwo]

I can see the Snyder fans coming out of last night's South Park thinking Matt and Trey are 'their guys'

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by sdp

It's not desperation move, it's just how things work now, they get more money that way. The Mario movie also came out digitally at around the same timeframe, perhaps even less time and it still did banger numbers. It already did better than Man of Steel so they can say it's a "success", Superman just doesn't sell that many tickets, superhero movies are no longer cool, DC had a bad reputation. I'd say the movie did very well counting it had everything going against it.

Jurassic World has dinosaurs which are less played out so it did better than both superhero movies.

I disagree that it's not a desperation move in that if Superman had seen huge numbers we wouldn't somehow be seeing this move now to put it so quickly into VOD, but I agree with the rest

[sdp]

Well I watched Man of Steel again and it's umm a weird superman movie, I do think it's too dark, not onlt in style but in the colors of the movie. It needed a bit more color to give the sense of hope that Superman gives. For a boring origin story that no one wanted to watch again, it did a great job, it's compelling ot watch. It's not a great idea to have Superman's first reveal to the world be because of Zod, there is no rapport built for audiences to care about Superman just yet. I don't mind Superman killing Zod since you can see it in his face that he only did it since he had no alternative and hates that Zod forced him to make that decision. I also don't hate Pa kent died the way he did. But yeah, we needed Superman being a bit more wholesome and good. I think Cavill is a better Superman than David Corenswet, but he wasn't given a script to really show how he was Superman. It'ss a decent movie but yeah it had some missteps and Gunn's Superman is the better movie.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by sdp

I think Cavill is a better Superman than David Corenswet, but he wasn't given a script to really show how he was Superman.

If only we'd gotten Man of Steel 2 to do that instead of diving right into The Death of Superman/The Dark Knight Returns/Justice League.

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Film will be out digitally on the 15th

https://twistedvoxel.com/superman-di...ic-box-office/

Actually looks like Digital is August 26th

https://comicbookmovie.com/superman/...ust-26-a223242

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

Actually looks like Digital is August 26th

https://comicbookmovie.com/superman/...ust-26-a223242

Nope. 15th officially

https://www.ign.com/articles/dcu-ste...ll-in-theaters

[IMJ]

Still trying to decide if I buy this one. I think it's a "Yes" if the 4k transfer is widely reviewed as being really good. If it's a mediocre disc, then it can sit on my media server instead.

Either way, good enough movie to own.

[CyberCubed]

The behind the scenes making of the movie with James Gunn is currently free on youtube. It's 1 hour long. Really shows how much fun James Gun and Superman/Lois actors had making the movie with him.

[Autbot_Benz]

September 23rd is the physical release date. 3 days before my birthday which isn’t to shabby

[Andrew NDB]

Something to consider as well:

[sdp]

That's because people don't go to theaters, they've been dying for decades now, besides the 3D boom after Avatar which increased interest for a unique experience, most people aren't willing to go anymore.
They release these out to digital as fast as they can to continue to make $$$ from the same marketing push since they know movie buffs and casuals who want to see the new thing right away will do it in the first 3 weeks or so.

There's a reason they still measure $$ made and not ticket sales which is a more accurate portrait of how many people went to see it. Gone with the wind and the like from a century ago would still be #1 movie by those metrics

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Something to consider as well:

https://i.ibb.co/pv9XDwZ7/535079529-...07926035-n.jpg

Holy hell, have ticket prices really doubled in twelve years?

[Daytona]

It’s hard to compare those two bc the market is so different now. I think this is a better start though for DC when we look at reception as well.

I like both versions about equally. Glad they each took a different approach.

[Andrew NDB]

I think I'd have to agree with this assessment of the "Super Speech."

[IMJ]

I thought the monologue was fine. It was.... basically everything I think I said leading up to this movie - it's all "James Gunn level fine". No real complaints outside of the Clone thing which was a legit lost op and a foolish move for a guy who has done so many superhero flicks.

The whole movie was serviceably fine entertainment. There is no life-changing or 'humanity rallying' Superman movie left.

[CyberCubed]

It's a little too heavy handed, but it got the point across. This Superman is for the Gen-Z generation, so they need everything explained or else they don't get it.

[ToTheNines]

Alright, my semi-coherent thoughts:

I liked it! It’s a good movie and a good story. It’s not THE Superman story, but it was quite good and I’m excited to see more.

I will say, I don’t know if this reboot was a good idea and the box office numbers ain’t looking great. Several coworkers and I normally go see action and superhero movies when we’re on the road, but only one guy wanted to go with me yesterday. The general consensus was basically that they liked Cavill as Superman and didn’t understand why they rebooted. Anectotal obviously, but worth sharing, I thought.

Corenswet was mostly good. Too emotional and whiny at times, especially during his argument with Lois. But I guess he’s still a young Superman, but he’s like 30 in the story. Hopefully they let him grow into role and feel like classic Supes.

Brosnahan was perfect as Lois. Case closed.

Thank you Gunn for giving us a REAL Lex. Christ almighty, how hard is that? Bald. Rich. Feels inferior to Superman so he hates him. It’s that simple.

The clone was an odd choice and could have been a bigger deal. Also strange to use the Ultraman name like that, but he was sucked into a black hole so maybe he did go to Earth 3?

Not a fan of making the Kryptonians evil, as a concept. I did love the ending where they changed the footage he liked to watch at the fortress from his Krypton parents to his Earth parents, so there definitely was emotional payoff. But I dunno. It does make me think Brainiac will be the villain in the sequel.

The Justice Gang ruled. Fillion CRUSHED it as Guy, Mr. Terrific was awesome and the girl who played Hawkgirl was fine as hell (the hawk screaming got old though).

Michael Ian Black making fun of Tucker was pretty funny.

Everything with the Kents was incredibly sweet, as was Krypto. Although I think his inclusion might have been a little too goofy.

And I’ll wrap my ramblings up with the whole forgeign intervention plot. I thought there were a few superficial connections to Russia/Ukraine but it was VERY blatantly a proxy for Israel/Palestine. Which kinda just made me sad. It also felt like they never dealt with the moral dilemma of metahumans meddling in foreign affairs. I guess it was just a free for all once FAKE Netanyahu was caught red handed being in cahoots with Luthor?

So yeah, there was a LOT going on but Gunn did a good job juggling it all. I’m sad to see yet another Superman movie do “just ok”. This definitely is not and never will be quintessential Superman, but it was still well done.

Oh, and I don’t really see Gunn’s claim that the movie is about “kindness”.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

The general consensus was basically that they liked Cavill as Superman and didn’t understand why they rebooted. Anectotal obviously, but worth sharing, I thought.

It's really pretty weird. By the same token that John Cena is still Peacemaker when his whole world changed BETWEEN SEASONS, I don't see why we couldn't have just gotten a soft-rebooted Superman with Cavill in the part with a new Lex and new Lois and. Don't mention it in the movie, but in interviews it can be blamed on The Flash movie.

The clone was an odd choice and could have been a bigger deal. Also strange to use the Ultraman name like that, but he was sucked into a black hole so maybe he did go to Earth 3?

Maybe, but that would undermine the whole point of Earth-3. It's just supposed to always be an evil mirror of whatever is currently going on in Earth-0.

Not a fan of making the Kryptonians evil, as a concept.

We'll see if that sticks. Apparently Gunn already changed that on the home releases so the screen says it WAS doctored by Lex? Which would mean rewrites or reshoots on Supergirl already.

It does make me think Brainiac will be the villain in the sequel.

If we get one. The next movie won't be Superman 2 but some kind of -- surprise! -- ensemble movie that includes Superman.

And I’ll wrap my ramblings up with the whole forgeign intervention plot. I thought there were a few superficial connections to Russia/Ukraine but it was VERY blatantly a proxy for Israel/Palestine.

I've heard this, but the timeline doesn't check out. When Gunn turned in his script there WAS Russia-Ukraine, but October 7th hadn't happened yet, let alone the Gaza war or anything.

[ToTheNines]

1. Agreed.

2. Also agreed, I’m just grasping at straws.

3. Strange, but probably the better choice.

4. Damn… Dawn of Justice all over again.

5. Perhaps the actual invasion part was more inspired by Ukraine, but that’s it other than Boravian sounding exactly like Russian to my ear. Obviously **** hit the fan on October 7th, but the situation in Palestine has been bad for a long, long time.