Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA founder, dead at 31 after Utah campus shooting

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Walkabout

Sorry, the way you were ranting about TRUMP led me to think you were in the US of A.

Rent free.

[ZariusTwo]

They've caught him. Tyler Robinson, in his 20s, comes from a republican family. White.

Bullets did have carvings, but it was pretty kindergarten, "catch fascist" and "if you read this, you're gay"

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

They've caught him. Tyler Robinson, in his 20s, comes from a republican family. White.

Bullets did have carvings, but it was pretty kindergarten, "catch fascist" and "if you read this, you're gay"

But but Vegita-San said it would be a leftard

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

But but Vegita-San said it would be a leftard

Apparently he did lean left.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

But but Vegita-San said it would be a leftard

That he did this + "he came from a Republican family" almost assuredly means he became a leftard. Leftist schools + resentment, anger at the parents, Charlie Kirk out there changing young minds...

On one of the bullets it was also written: “Hey fascist! Catch!”

[ToTheNines]

Wow https://x.com/krassenstein/status/19...r=krassenstein

Edit: https://x.com/krassenstein/status/1966507542546116960

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Wow https://x.com/krassenstein/status/19...r=krassenstein

It says the page doesn't exist?

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

It says the page doesn't exist?

Edited: https://x.com/krassenstein/status/1966507542546116960

[ToTheNines]

Trump does not ****ing care lmao:

https://x.com/SpencerHakimian/status...27816008155249

https://x.com/CattardSlim/status/1966423343768445283

[Galactus]

I don't see how the killer was left leaning. Sure the natural assumption when a political figure is attacked that it's someone from the other side but then both of Trump's assassination attempts were done by supporters.

Given the circumstances of the assassination ie: this being someone skilled with a rifle it statistically made it more likely to be a right winger from the jump. Factor in his family background of being staunch Republicans, his prior support for Trump even allegedly donating to him it certainly seems like a right winger. Sure his politics could have changed and done 180 very quickly but it's just as likely he thought Kirk had gone soft or became so obsessed with him and hurt Kirk didn't notice him.

[Daytona]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I was actually watching one of his videos this morning while getting ready. His college campus Q&As are always popping up in my Youtube and mileage may vary but some are pretty hard-hitting at times. I feel like there's been a good number of these where he may have actually changed someone's mind or at least made them genuinely go back and reexamine their values.

Of course, I'd roll my eyes and tune out whenever he'd shifts things to religion and God (and he never needed to do that) but he seldom wasn't making incredibly logical arguments beyond that.

This is me with most political commentators I tend to agree with. I’m just nodding along - “yes, yes, exactly, yes *record scratch* - what do you meant m this is all part of gods plan and through Jesus the left will see the error of their ways?”

And that’s not a religious dig, bc I grew up catholic and see some value in religion but I’m not on that level so it jolts me.

Anyway, everyone who celebrated this is sick but I’m glad it’s being further exposed just how far the left have fallen.

Originally Posted by Galactus

I don't see how the killer was left leaning. Sure the natural assumption when a political figure is attacked that it's someone from the other side but then both of Trump's assassination attempts were done by supporters.

Given the circumstances of the assassination ie: this being someone skilled with a rifle it statistically made it more likely to be a right winger from the jump. Factor in his family background of being staunch Republicans, his prior support for Trump even allegedly donating to him it certainly seems like a right winger. Sure his politics could have changed and done 180 very quickly but it's just as likely he thought Kirk had gone soft or became so obsessed with him and hurt Kirk didn't notice him.

Imo this would be a delusional assessment.

Kirk was instrumental in Trump’s victory and obviously right-wing MAGA affiliated. I don’t care
who you find a small donation to or what hat his parents wear - I don’t care if this kid said Trump is his best friend in the world - actions speak louder than words and he assassinated someone on the right.

This goes for Crooks and the other guy who tried to kill Trump as well - nothing anyone can find tops the action of trying to assassinate someone, so when you look for their political affiliation, it’s easy to see where it lies. Everything else is grasping at straws.

[ToTheNines]

Shooter’s ideology is absolutely moot and won’t amount to anything. It’s been revealed that his parents were conservative, so everyone is going to blame them regardless.

The video I saw of him lead me to believe he is definitely on the spectrum. Been seeing a lot of calls for the death penalty. Very grim.

[Mayhem]

So apparently the reason the FBI thought Tyler had trans affiliation was... because the bullets left had TRN stamped on the bottom. The abbreviation for Turan, a popular Turkish bullet manufacturer. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the state of your investigation services today! *facepalm*

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

So apparently the reason the FBI thought Tyler had trans affiliation was... because the bullets left had TRN stamped on the bottom. The abbreviation for Turan, a popular Turkish bullet manufacturer. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the state of your investigation services today! *facepalm*

Either that or the leak to Steven Crowder (yikes) was just total ******** and pushing that narrative.

[Andrew NDB]

IF that's true and that's where that derived from then that's pretty ridiculous. And next to all those longer other notes, Crowder was to believe he couldn't be bothered to write out "TRANS"? just "TRN"? That's all we get? I'd assume he was a Tron fan maybe looking forward to seeing Ares in a few weeks before anything trans.

[Daytona]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Shooter’s ideology is absolutely moot and won’t amount to anything. It’s been revealed that his parents were conservative, so everyone is going to blame them regardless.

The video I saw of him lead me to believe he is definitely on the spectrum. Been seeing a lot of calls for the death penalty. Very grim.

It’s not moot bc we are looking for trends and this ideology is one of them.

The left want it to be moot bc they’ve been inciting violence for years now.

[The Deadman]

Originally Posted by Galactus

I don't see how the killer was left leaning. Sure the natural assumption when a political figure is attacked that it's someone from the other side but then both of Trump's assassination attempts were done by supporters.

Given the circumstances of the assassination ie: this being someone skilled with a rifle it statistically made it more likely to be a right winger from the jump. Factor in his family background of being staunch Republicans, his prior support for Trump even allegedly donating to him it certainly seems like a right winger. Sure his politics could have changed and done 180 very quickly but it's just as likely he thought Kirk had gone soft or became so obsessed with him and hurt Kirk didn't notice him.

People can be radicalized, and when the MSM and people on social media are saying Charlie Kirk is a racist, called for stoning gay people (which was a made up lie) etc, thats bound to incite some kind of violence.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by Daytona

Imo this would be a delusional assessment.

Kirk was instrumental in Trump’s victory and obviously right-wing MAGA affiliated. I don’t care
who you find a small donation to or what hat his parents wear - I don’t care if this kid said Trump is his best friend in the world - actions speak louder than words and he assassinated someone on the right.

This goes for Crooks and the other guy who tried to kill Trump as well - nothing anyone can find tops the action of trying to assassinate someone, so when you look for their political affiliation, it’s easy to see where it lies. Everything else is grasping at straws.

I don't buy into the idea Charlie Kirk was instrumental in Trump's victory. He was given millions in the run up to the 2020 election in the belief he was the "young white male whisperer" but young people including white male voters leaned very heavily towards Joe Biden in that election.

Young white males breaking for Trump's in 2024 I'd put on a few factors but if any public figures had an influence I'd say 100% it was the Joe Rogan/Theo Von podcast dumb bros. Your average young white guy who went conservative in 2024 their views echo their talking points rather than Charlie Kirk's.

The argument that the result itself reveals the motive is ridiculous. If the assassin had been an ex lover or someone he owed money to would you still say it must have been a leftist just because the victim was on the right? It's also not uncommon for people to become such obsessive fans that they lose their minds if they start to feel let down by them in some way. In this scenario the killers don't suddenly become non right wing, they just want to purge the source of their fixation. I don't think there is anything to definitively say the current politics of Kirk's killer but we have a lot of evidence he'd long been a Republican and a Trump voter.

In a way it's not even all that relevant what a killer's politics are. A mentally ill person is a mentally ill person regardless of whether they identify as red or blue...but in another way it's a very relevant to ask why a disproportionate number of right wingers are prone to violence.

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by Daytona

The left want it to be moot bc they’ve been inciting violence for years now.

The stats show right wing violence over the last 25 years is 3-4 times more prevalent than left. And all the major political related incidents of the last ten years (including both Trump shootings) have been right. Until this one which we don’t know yet.

[Daytona]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

The stats show right wing violence over the last 25 years is 3-4 times more prevalent than left. And all the major political related incidents of the last ten years (including both Trump shootings) have been right. Until this one which we don’t know yet.

There is nothing right-wing about the trump assassination attempts, bc no evidence outweighs the action of attempting to blow someone’s head off. If that’s right-wing then right wing is no longer MAGA and the current leading party. Perhaps that’s a relevant point of discussion.

It’s a very manipulative thing to try to imply these bogus statistics, I have to say. I’d like to see the source so we can take a look at their background. Secondly, how many recent school shootings have been carried out by trans or self-identified “lgbtq” folk? Quite a few and many espousing liberal talking points and right-wing hate.


Another reason this doesn’t hold up is you simply don’t see this level of glee anywhere on the right when someone on the left dies. In fact,
We’ve never seen anything like it.

And what else? Despite the outrage “the right” is currently experiencing, there are no riots in the streets or buildings being burned, or people being dragged out of their trucks to be kicked in the head.

We can see where the violence has been coming from quite clearly, my friend.