Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA founder, dead at 31 after Utah campus shooting

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

I was a bit surprised that most of the major social places where you can upload video to were certainly not appearing to be rushing to take down what happened from the multiple sources posting ?

As for Kirk himself, see attached as to why a significant number of people are not mourning his passing. Live by spouting hate, die by someone evidently objecting. Obviously I went to check (having been in bed) if the suspect had been identified, only to find the second person they arrested has been released too. So we still don’t know their motives or who they are.

Hasn’t stoped all the far right shills spewing vile and hatred towards the left, saying they are evil and wanting war, like they presume the shooter is Democrat. This is Utah, probability is more he is white, Mormon and Republican.

And THAT’S the exact evidence about just who Kirk was, according to someone I know who met and debated him. On camera, menable. Off camera, totally different person.


https://i.imgur.com/te5K8si.jpeg

Damn. I used to feel kind of bad when IMJ would go off on you, but now I see why.

[Mayhem]

So you're saying it's not preemptive persecution and rhetoric that the right is already blaming the Left when we have no idea who did it or what their motives were? Right, understood.

Everything i posted, Kirk said. I will also add, not in there, he stated if his wife or daughter got raped and made pregnant, he'd make sure they couldn't get abortions. And that the only role for women was to stay home, be wives and babymakers.

These aren't views that were necessarily debated or aired during discussions, which is why anyone who only saw those wouldn't get the full picture.

Just to re-iterate the bottom part of the image... I don't condone his shooting, but I can perfectly see why many are not mourning his loss. Just like how the right said **** all about the Minnesota reps being shot.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

So you're saying it's not preemptive persecution and rhetoric that the right is already blaming the Left when we have no idea who did it or what their motives were? Right, understood.

No one knows anything, the suspect is at large. Most of the stuff I’m seeing is conspiracy theory speculation.

People can say whatever they want, but it’s lot like anyone is retaliating. So I don’t see why it matters.

Everything i posted, Kirk said. I will also add, not in there, he stated if his wife or daughter got raped and made pregnant, he'd make sure they couldn't get abortions. And that the only role for women was to stay home, be wives and babymakers.

I’m staunchly pro-choice. But sh*tty opinions are not justification for a public execution.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm pretty staunch pro-choice myself WITH the caveat that an abortion isn't just some trivial thing. It's a big deal. It should be treated as such.

With Kirk, I'm a little impressed the conspiracy theory mill hasn't gone into full swing yet, whether on my circle of social media friends or media. Like, "MOSSAD did this to take attention off Israel attacking Iran!" or "A republican probably did this to make him a martyr!" Though I guess a crazy in the other thread already did the latter, basically.

This might be the guy:
https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/ch...ley-university

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Like, "MOSSAD did this to take attention off Israel attacking Iran!" or "A republican probably did this to make him a martyr!" Though I guess a crazy in the other thread already did the latter, basically.

That was also Mayhem lol

[Mayhem]

No, what I said was given this is Utah, the chances of the shooter being someone white, Mormon and/or Republican was far greater than it being a Democrat. Didn't say it was. We have no idea yet.

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

I’m staunchly pro-choice. But sh*tty opinions are not justification for a public execution.

And I'll repeat what I noted earlier. I don't condone the shooting. Someone did though. Conspiracy alert, yes I have seen the posts surrounding Kirk that Israel would take him out for going against them. But they aren't the only suspects.

[KaraiLover09]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

Guess Ben Shapiro should watch is back now. He is another scummy maga podcast bro like kirk was

He might. They've been wishing death on him for a while, and I can already hear them cheering if it does go down.

You might be joking, but you're not wrong.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

No, what I said was given this is Utah, the chances of the shooter being someone white, Mormon and/or Republican was far greater than it being a Democrat. Didn't say it was. We have no idea yet.

lol… yes if you were just going to pluck a random person out of the population of Utah, statistically that would be your most likely type of person.

But that’s not what is going on. You’re narrowing it down to “who publicly executed a popular rightwing pundit at a campus event?”

EDIT: I’m just saying it would be very weird and embarrassing if say Stephen Colbert got shot in Atlanta and I was going around saying “I bet it was a BLACK GUY who owned a gun illegally!”

[Andrew NDB]

Press conference delayed due to "rapid developments" in the investigation:

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/ch...ley-university

Might be they're about to close the noose on the shooter.

[Mayhem]

Put eloquently, and exactly what I’m wary of happening in the US now…

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOeOm...g5ZXlxNnVjcQ==

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

But that’s not what is going on. You’re narrowing it down to “who publicly executed a popular rightwing pundit at a campus event?”

History, and the evidence of the last X shootings of this kind against people in power or influence have all been committed by people who are right wing and white.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Press conference delayed due to "rapid developments" in the investigation:

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/ch...ley-university

Might be they're about to close the noose on the shooter.

I will be highly skeptical of any suspect they trot out at this point.

Originally Posted by Mayhem

Put eloquently, and exactly what I’m wary of happening in the US now…

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOeOm...g5ZXlxNnVjcQ==


History, and the evidence of the last X shootings of this kind against people in power or influence have all been committed by people who are right wing and white.

Alright, whatever. Boring.

[Mayhem]

Facts bore you? No wonder the right likes to make up conspiracy theories then.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

The likes of Laura Loomer are at it again, declaring that all leftist organisations should be banned in wake of Charlie Kirk's death.

Charlie Kirk getting murdered and silenced was disgusting. And it should not be used to justify a political crackdown.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

Facts bore you? No wonder the right likes to make up conspiracy theories then.

If anything, I identify as left wing. Never voted republican for President in my life. I just don’t suffer from TDS.

[Andrew NDB]

So apparently the bullets in the rifle (which was a bolt action hunting rifle) had a bunch of Antifa and transgender stuff written all over them.

[ToTheNines]

They expect people to believe that?

[Mayhem]

They relied on that legendary German efficiency with a Mauser… and no, I don’t believe that tale either. The reports this side of the pond have noted the bullets and rifle had markings on, but no info about what they were. He is wearing a T-shirt with a US flag and eagle on. People still gonna say he’s left wing for sure?

Another IG clip but another one I can totally get and agree with.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOdvS...A3dTBqeWZrbA==

[ToTheNines]

Watch the shooter sprint across the roof and then jump off and haul ass like ****in Jason Bourne or something: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/n...1-ac3ad2ec3384

That’s a professional.

[Barkworm]

It certainly looks like he knows what he's doing.

[Walkabout]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

I’m not American

Sorry, the way you were ranting about TRUMP led me to think you were in the US of A.