Is Turtles in Time overrated?

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

It’s a fun beat-em-up, but that’s about it.

It’s not even a top TMNT game. I prefer The Manhattan Project.



Yeah dude, **** Cement Man lol

I can't beat the bridge stage in Manhattan Project. I always get my game over there. I guess it's a skill issue.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Prowler

Before you bring out the pitchforks, remember that "overrated" does not mean something is "bad", OK?!

I think the SNES version of Turtles in Time is the best TMNT game from the 80s and 90s overall, but I think a lot of people overrate it a bit. I remember even Screwattack calling it the best beat 'em up ever, which is a bit eyebrow raising. No way Turtles in Time is better than Streets of Rage 2 or the SNES Final Fight games.

It's a fun game and all but calling it a 10/10 game is a gross exaggeration, imo.

Thoughts?

Perhaps best SIDE-SCROLLING beat 'em up. I put the likes of Streets of Rage in the fighter game category.

Turtles In Time Arcade version has the Cement Monster from the one scene that Baxter had the Eye of Sarnath, why??? Slash and dressed like pre-historic humanoid? YES! Overall, the SNES set of bosses is almost as good as it could get during Turtlemania, I mean I might have included Chome Dome instead of Metalhead(since I consider Metalhead overall an ally even if it varies),but its just a fantastic set of foes. It also has great backgrounds outside the given sewer level and Technodrome final level. The special abilities also helps. Not to mention it is beatable with effort without a teenager having to carry me.

Turtles in Time SNES is my favorite Ninja Turtles video game edging out Manhattan Project that also had the three look-fors. Those of course are boss roster, scenes, beat ability not too hard but not easy. Both have repeat play ability too.

For the 1st generation of TMNT fans its easily the best video game and my favorite, overall TMNT game unbias? I don't know,like I said I love Manhattan Project too and while I played all the TMNT 2003 cartoon games they did not have the same charm for me,but I prefer side-scrollers to open world. I like games that have a definitive beginning and ending not continuous updates and 100%ing. Best overall game? Not hardly. It does deserve to at least be highlighted in both TMNT history and SNES coverage.

[CyberCubed]

I just saw Cement Man as Clayface from Batman, pretended he was the same character.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Perhaps best SIDE-SCROLLING beat 'em up. I put the likes of Streets of Rage in the fighter game category.

How the heck do you consider Streets of Rage a fighting game instead of a beat 'em up?

[DarkFell]

I own Hyperstone Heist for the Genesis. In all honesty, even Turtles In Time looks like more fun than Hyperstone Heist was. An emulator would be the way to go.

Throwing Foot Soldiers at the TV screen? Sign me up for that!

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by DarkFell

I own Hyperstone Heist for the Genesis. In all honesty, even Turtles In Time looks like more fun than Hyperstone Heist was. An emulator would be the way to go.

Throwing Foot Soldiers at the TV screen? Sign me up for that!

Hyperstone Heist is fine but it clearly gives you vibes of "Oh your parents bought you a Mega Drive instead of a SNES? Well here's a poor man's version of Turtles in Time, then!"

Also, it's harder. Especially the gauntlet level where you face 4 previous bosses in a row with only one pizza to refill your health. I always get a game over there.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by DarkFell

An emulator would be the way to go.

It is also included in the 2022 Cowabunga Collection.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Prowler

Hyperstone Heist is fine but it clearly gives you vibes of "Oh your parents bought you a Mega Drive instead of a SNES? Well here's a poor man's version of Turtles in Time, then!"

There is that very distinctive, cheap audio chip in the Sega Genesis. Very synth-y MIDI-like.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

There is that very distinctive, cheap audio chip in the Sega Genesis. Very synth-y MIDI-like.

The Mega Drive when it comes to music... it's GREAT when it's Sonic or Streets of Rage since they had composers that knew what they were doing. But, for the most part, the MD couldn't compete with SNES soundchip made by Sony.

[CyberCubed]

It's funny back in the SNES/Genesis days ports of third party games didn't exist, they just made completely different games per each console. Hyperstone Heist just feels like a modern day rom hack of Turtles in Time with some altered levels and a new boss with Tatsu.

I think the classic Mortal Kombat trilogy was the earliest example of third party ports that were mostly the same game on each console, just with slight differences in graphic/audio and some censoring on Nintendo consoles.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

It's funny back in the SNES/Genesis days ports of third party games didn't exist, they just made completely different games per each console.

It still happens sometimes. Look at the Ghostbusters game on Wii compared to the other systems, totally different engine and design. And there's a completely different version of Dragon Quest XI on 3DS vs. on Playstation.

[sdp]

It did happen in the Wii PS3 era since the power of both consoles was so different, but I wouldn't call that "still happens" that was two decades ago and those games are literally closer to the SNES era than they are to the current era.
DQXI is more of an exception and even then that was nearly 10 years ago.

We won't see that happen ever again, even the Switch 1 was powerful enough to get downgraded ports of the big console counterparts. People made fun of Mortal Kombat 1 for example but it was essentially the same game with crappier graphics.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

It still happens sometimes. Look at the Ghostbusters game on Wii compared to the other systems, totally different engine and design. And there's a completely different version of Dragon Quest XI on 3DS vs. on Playstation.

DQXI isn't on the 3DS. You mean the Switch? Or perhaps you mean a different DQ game?

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Xav

How the heck do you consider Streets of Rage a fighting game instead of a beat 'em up?

My mistake, I read it as Street Fighter.

Originally Posted by Prowler

Hyperstone Heist is fine but it clearly gives you vibes of "Oh your parents bought you a Mega Drive instead of a SNES? Well here's a poor man's version of Turtles in Time, then!"

Also, it's harder. Especially the gauntlet level where you face 4 previous bosses in a row with only one pizza to refill your health. I always get a game over there.

Its funny that you type that. Hyperstone Heist was the very first TMNT game I ever beat on my own (if you don't count Fall of The Foot Clan because you can skip around levels)! Maybe its because I was 2-7 when all the games game out.

Hyperstone Heist does have two things that always stood out to me, it has Tatsu as a level boss and Rocksteady with no Bebop in sight. I would have preferred Bebop. Haha.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

My mistake, I read it as Street Fighter.



Its funny that you type that. Hyperstone Heist was the very first TMNT game I ever beat on my own (if you don't count Fall of The Foot Clan because you can skip around levels)! Maybe its because I was 2-7 when all the games game out.

Hyperstone Heist does have two things that always stood out to me, it has Tatsu as a level boss and Rocksteady with no Bebop in sight. I would have preferred Bebop. Haha.

Rocksteady and no Bebop is indeed odd. But arcade Turtles in Time didn't have either guy!

[CyberCubed]

It's funny because when TMNT "died" in the mid-90's, it why the N64 and Playstation 1 is the only console generation with no new TMNT game.

TMNT didn't come back till 2003 with the 4kids games on Gamecube/PS2/XBox and the GBA versions (which are better 2D games). But it's funny to me there was no TMNT game on N64 or Playstation 1 which reflects the TMNT brand being dead in the mid/late 90's.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

It's funny because when TMNT "died" in the mid-90's, it why the N64 and Playstation 1 is the only console generation with no new TMNT game.

TMNT didn't come back till 2003 with the 4kids games on Gamecube/PS2/XBox and the GBA versions (which are better 2D games). But it's funny to me there was no TMNT game on N64 or Playstation 1 which reflects the TMNT brand being dead in the mid/late 90's.

Don't forget the Sega Saturn!

But I do shudder to think of how a TMNT game for a system of that generation would turn out. In 1995-2000 no one was going to break their bank to make a TMNT game since the property was practically dead and off the public eye. Perhaps the Next Mutation would have gotten a tie-in game if the show got a 2nd or 3rd season?

[sdp]

I remember as a kid The Next Mutation did have a decent marketing and licensing push. I was hyped as heck for TNM despite never actually getting to watch it, I still had some figures, a coloring book and whatnot.

While it did get a handheld Tiger LCD game, I'm surprised it didn't get a cheaply made PS1 or even Game Boy game. I'd love to have had one even if it had been bad.

[Prowler]

A Tiger LCD game sounds fitting for a Next Mutation game. Sh*tty game adaptation of a sh*tty show for a sh*tty system.

Also, Fox Kids? I guess that's when TMNT's history with Fox began? Not with the 2k3 series...

Anyway I'd have been 7-8 when TNM aired here but don't remember it ever airing even though some people around my age did tell me it aired and they remember watching it back in the day. I know kids have lower standards since they don't know any better but even the few people I spoke to who watched TNM when they were kids said "Man, that was lousy!"

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by sdp

I remember as a kid The Next Mutation did have a decent marketing and licensing push. I was hyped as heck for TNM despite never actually getting to watch it, I still had some figures, a coloring book and whatnot.

While it did get a handheld Tiger LCD game, I'm surprised it didn't get a cheaply made PS1 or even Game Boy game. I'd love to have had one even if it had been bad.

https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6056/...6af65ea162.jpg

Actually, Next Mutation aired in Italy over Italia 1 as Tartarughe Ninja: l'avventura continua (Ninja Turtles: The Adventure Continues).

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartar...ntura_continua