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Aside from the Godzilla x TMNT, Playmates has lost much of its appeal.
The origins-style line has potential, but the rate is slow, much slower than even Super7. Not releasing the two remaining brothers from the high school Mutant Mayhem line was in bad taste, yet they release everything else. Great that they re-released Technodrome, Party Wagon, Blimp and Module (my fave from back in the day) for those that care. But the Channel 6 News Van is where it is at. I don't collect vintage, but I do collect vintage-upscale, so I am hoping for some news from Super7, but it is unclear to me who has the rights to the toy designs, Playmates, Varner or Viacom. |
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Yup. See, had they embraced that more? They'd have a minor, ongoing "win" on their hands.
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I mean to be fair NECA has been smoking playmates in everything turtle related.
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The original TMNT toys are absolute all-time classics but I see no reason to weep now. They only stepped up when forced to and by then it was absolutely too late. I would like to buy one of the original turtles for nostalgia sake if they’re not already too rare and expensive.
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The thing is, Playmates is the only reason the original TMNT cartoon exists, and then the cartoon paved the way to the original live-action movies, Archie TMNT, etc. Without Playmates, none of this would exist, and it was just be the Mirage comics.
Watch the documentaries on the Turtle doc and others where the only reason the cartoon deal went through was because of Playmates. They are the reason modern TMNT exists. |
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Playmates is everything I love about TMNT basically, but at the same time it was Playmates from the 90s that I love.
I read the Press Release, to me it sounds like they were negotiating but once Skydance came into the picture they likely raised the price and messed negotiations up for Playmates and are asking for much more. Let's take a look at the recent Playmates and TMNT toylines: Mutant Mayhem didn't seem to sell too well, Tales is likely doing worse Rise was an absolute bomb Before that the 2012 series started well but didn't do as well towards the end Out of the Shadows Toyline was another bomb The re-issues seem to have been doing well and/or decent enough any special/limited editions they did also seemed to do well The Classics line which includes their odd crossovers with stuff like strangerthings/street fighter also seemd to do fine Unsure how Remastered seemed to do but it seems they were leaning more towards gimmicky stuff since its what sold like say Godzilla x TMNT. So yeah I doubt they were making money hand over fist. Unsure how the whole sublicensing to other companies was working for them, if they got any money for it or if other companies had difficulty working with Playmates or perhaps they had nothing to do with it. But counting how many bombs they've had I'm sure they weren't willing to pay premium price for the license which Skydance might think they have now that they are the new owners. |
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I haven't bought a Playmates figure since Usagi.
Wait... Does that mean that Super7 could release their Ultimates version in 2027? Wasn't it rumoured that Playmates were somehow preventing that? Last edited by Otter; 12-25-2025 at 06:46 PM. |
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Yeah... pass.
I was excited to see what Super7 (specifically the Four Horsemen) were going to do with the figure. It would've been more than just a remake with updated articulation. Last edited by Otter; 12-25-2025 at 08:31 PM. |
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Seth Rogan killed Playmates....and April
Paramount Killed The Last Ronin. |
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I wasn’t shocked when I saw this...not that I expected it. I was just a little surprised. Someone else will definitely keep TMNT going though. I mean outside of the more expensive collector brands.
I’ve been wanting to get the First Sketch Turtles (the round colored ones). They were only $25 for all of them on Amazon Prime day last year. Insanely cheap but I couldn’t get them at the time. Last Playmates Turtle I got must be Classics Mikey. The line that was modeled to be more cartoon accurate. I still have him on display too. It’s quite nice imo. I had planned to get the rest but never got around to it.
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I know some people are saddened by this, and I certainly have warm memories of the original and the 2k3 line, but Playmates can honestly suck my dick. Good riddance.
They’re the reason for a lot of the dumber aspect of the cartoons. They didn’t really stick out in the FW show as bad, but there’s plenty of facepalm moments of product placement in 4kids and 2012 that dragged them down. They also sh*t all over the 1990 movie when they saw the first cut and caused a lot of drama behind the scenes, didn’t really help out financially. I wish they would have really stuck it to Playmates and just went with red masks lol. I also think Playmates had a hand in making the PD turtles being big, disgusting and busy as possible, design-wise. They wanted them to starkly contrast the clean/small 2012 turtles on the toy shelves. And yeah, don’t get me started on MM/“Tales”. |
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Presumably SURGE would have continued to play hardball with every other toy company and eventually they still would have struck a deal with SOMEBODY. Maybe not as great of a deal or maybe an even better one but who knows.
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Pixel Dan just proposed a terrible thought, what if one of the big two outbid Playmates for the line?
Mattel basically shut down my interest in MotU once they skittled Super7's Classics to bring out Origins and later Masterverse. If NECA were to stop their Mirage and Archie lines I can't see I'd pick up any other Turtles figures. And I can't imagine Hasbro or Mattel doing comparable work on either of those comics lines (though it might give NECA a reason to lean into an Usagi Yojimbo line). |
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Frankly I'm disappointed by literally every toy company right now. Perhaps for slightly different reasons when it comes to each. I think that my mid-adulthood return to early-childhood has all but played out. The fact that this partnership is dying as it reached roughly the same age I have reached, when I too am taking stock and saying "it is time for this to end", is maybe not all that surprising.
This development seems to be bringing many folks out of the woodwork with opinions that fascinate me. I have always felt there is room for all tiers of TMNT toys/collectibles, especially since the companies realized this themselves over the past couple decades. The undeniable things that were nice about Playmates - the price, of course, but also they have always been "good old fashioned hunting". Frustratingly fun, you had to put in leg work to catch 'em all - right up until today. Other toy companies artificially limit their pipelines/quantities to give that same experience but Playmates just did it naturally, the old fashioned way. Playmates has at times been: great; meh; total crap - in cycles. The 2012 line went on long enough to span the full gamut. I dunno if those hating on MM/Tales are hating the whole incarnation, or the toys, or what...but either way that hate feels misguided because I would say Playmates is back to "great" right now and the movie/show are darn good too. Kinda funny now to think that among the last thing they produced were hilarious bootlegs, parody of parody of themselves. TMNT has gone postmodern, so we cannot be surprised that the foundations are beginning to crumble! |
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I hope Playmates continues to pump out reissues collectors want in 2026. Antrax, Wyrm, and Usagi are a start, but we need blue stripe April, no stripe April, orange and blue April (w [for those that missed out] and w/o PRESS sign), Ace Duck, Metalhead, Scratch, Mona Lisa, and a Metallic Foot Soldier. Time to get serious, Playmates!
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Wow... I always associated Playmates toys with the turtles. From the FW, the 2K3, 2012, that CGI movie and now Mutant Mayhem.
I wonder if they're still doing 2026 to release a few more waves of Mutant Mayhem whenever they release the second movie? It would be weird if some other company took over for Mutant Mayhem figures for the sequel. |
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