Indiana Jones 5 Announced For 2019

[Andrew NDB]

It might have been from one extreme to another, fine. Sure.

[CyberCubed]

Even back in 2008 when Indy 4 came out, it felt like a "relic" from another time, and that was like 15 years ago. Literally nobody in 2023 besides aging boomers were getting excited over Indy 5.

Much like the Ghostbuster movies and so many other old 80's movie franchises, most of today's audience (teens and 20-29 year olds) do not have an interest in these franchises. They did not grow up with them, they have no nostalgia for them. They're interested in anime and videogames, and I see this due to being in other fandoms that are comprised of mostly young 20 year olds.

Outside some evergreen franchises that are huge like Star Wars, Star Trek, DC and Marvel superheroes, etc....none of these other franchises have generational appeal. It's ok to let things end, as people always wonder why these decade later movie revivals always so poorly.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm looking at the numbers. Why in the world was the budget 402 million, anyway? Where did that go? Crystal Skull had a 185 million dollar budget and even THAT movie felt bloated in terms of effects and CGI wankery.

[Andrew NDB]

According to James Mangold, the director, the only reason it failed was because nobody wanted to see an 80 year-old lead. No other reason.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/dial-of...t-by-reaction/

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

According to James Mangold, the director, the only reason it failed was because nobody wanted to see an 80 year-old lead. No other reason.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/dial-of...t-by-reaction/

Normally I laugh or SMH or find dug-in commentary like that to be weakness on part of the person delivering it. But for some reason Mangold's woke-denial commentary actually pissed me off. He ruined Indiana Jones in the only Harrison Ford sendoff basically possible at this point. And now he's gaslighting the entire viewership basically for "ageism".

Rare occasion where I feel like I'd go to town instantly over the words of a wokester rather than it being enough to crush them intellectually. Weird....

[CyberCubed]

80 year old Ford was only part of the problem, the movie just wasn't that good. But I guess it doesn't matter, there's really nothing else to do at this point. Ford should of made a second set of trilogy in the mid/late 90's or early 2000's when he was still young.

[Andrew NDB]

I mean, an 80 year old Indy certainly didn't help, but that wouldn't even be in the top 10 reasons of what made the movie not so great. And we already know that Kathleen Kennedy was using the movie as a springboard for the Waller Bridge Disney+ series... and the movie LITERALLY kills Indy's son -- his only child -- in order to make it happen.

[Powder]

Dial of Destiny had a lot of interesting concepts in it, but the whole thing was a snooze-fest, shy of that third act time-travel scene. Would've rather had an entire film's worth of that sorta thing. The new characters didn't move me, it was too long, too much re-treading the past, not enough Indie, among other things. Had no problem with Harrison Ford's age or performance. The broad sucked.

I say this as someone who really liked the fourth one, for what that's worth.

[neatoman]

So I'm guessing they're not actually going to go through with the direction of making a new series starring Phoebe Waller-Bridge's character, and just reboot the franchise with a younger actor playing a new version of Indy if they even bother making more movies at all?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by neatoman

So I'm guessing they're not actually going to go through with the direction of making a new series starring Phoebe Waller-Bridge's character

That was cancelled almost as soon as Indy 5 came out.

and just reboot the franchise with a younger actor playing a new version of Indy if they even bother making more movies at all?

That's the assumption, but no time soon. Indy is going into a deep freeze for probably 10 or more years.

[CyberCubed]

They literally just released a new videogame (with a new story) for Indiana Jones two days ago on Xbox. It'll also get a PS5 version early next year.

[Andrew NDB]

And that game apparently didn't move the meter much. I haven't heard a lot of buzz about it at all.

I mean, an 80 year old Indy certainly didn't help, but that wouldn't even be in the top 10 reasons of what made the movie not so great. And we already know that Kathleen Kennedy was using the movie as a springboard for the Waller Bridge Disney+ series... and the movie LITERALLY kills Indy's son -- his only child -- in order to make it happen.

It's really insidious when you think about it.

* Star Wars: Collectively Luke, Han and Leia only ever had ONE kid amongst them all, Ben Solo. Who is killed off and the real hero is Rey, who isn't related to any of them, who will now lead the franchise. But nobody liked the sequel trilogy so the Rey movie and trilogy never happened.

* Indiana Jones: Indy only had ONE kid, and dies between movies so that Phoebe Waller Bridge's character, who isn't related to Indy, can now lead the franchise. But Dial of Destiny was a huge failure so the Disney+ Phoebe Waller Bridge spinoff was stopped dead in its tracks.

Same sh**.

[CyberCubed]

The game is really good, played it last year when it finally came to PS5 and it was very fun.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

* Indiana Jones: Indy only had ONE kid, and dies between movies so that Phoebe Waller Bridge's character, who isn't related to Indy, can now lead the franchise. But Dial of Destiny was a huge failure so the Disney+ Phoebe Waller Bridge spinoff was stopped dead in its tracks.

Same sh**.

DOD was a Disaster of Dogshit but I'm pretty sure Mutt was killed off because Shia burned bridges or something like that with Spielberg, no?

I don't think they ever even released that movie on 4k.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IMJ

DOD was a Disaster of Dogshit but I'm pretty sure Mutt was killed off because Shia burned bridges or something like that with Spielberg, no?

Pretty sure there were more options than killing Mutt if they just didn't want to work with Shia again. KK wants her heroes childless and legacy-less... unless the offspring is a lesbian (Willow on Disney+).

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

And that game apparently didn't move the meter much. I haven't heard a lot of buzz about it at all.



It's really insidious when you think about it.

* Star Wars: Collectively Luke, Han and Leia only ever had ONE kid amongst them all, Ben Solo. Who is killed off and the real hero is Rey, who isn't related to any of them, who will now lead the franchise. But nobody liked the sequel trilogy so the Rey movie and trilogy never happened.

* Indiana Jones: Indy only had ONE kid, and dies between movies so that Phoebe Waller Bridge's character, who isn't related to Indy, can now lead the franchise. But Dial of Destiny was a huge failure so the Disney+ Phoebe Waller Bridge spinoff was stopped dead in its tracks.

Same sh**.

Its such a huge missed opportunity of not bringing back Short Round.

[sdp]

I liked Mutt, I like Shia. Why did people turn on him.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by sdp

I liked Mutt, I like Shia. Why did people turn on him.

He started drinking a lot of alcohol, smoking and all that stuff.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

He started drinking a lot of alcohol, smoking and all that stuff.

That's almost all actors. The problem with Shia was all the trouble with the law, bar fights (fighting fans) and giant benders and saying really weird, antagonistic stuff in public over and over again.

[sdp]

But people act like he raped their mother