Dragonball Super The Galactic Patrol

[Autbot_Benz]

[sdp]

Is this GT canon or Daima canon?

[CyberCubed]

It's the next Super arc from the manga they didn't adapt yet, the Moro arc. Super has two manga arcs that didn't get anime adaptions yet, so this is the next one.

[neatoman]

It's not that weird that they've decided to finally adapt this story arc. What's weird is what's leading up to it.

They will remaster the Beerus arc, as in taking the old animation and improving it, kinda like they did with Kai and even doing the same "cut the chaff" thing, specifically they're going to cut the Beerus arc (fourteen or eighteen depending on how you count) down to six. Though they're not just remastering in higher quality, they seem to be updating the animation itself (something they already did with the blu-ray release) and will be including bits from the manga version, the specific bit mentioned is Goku's training break at the start will now include him imagining fighting old enemies like he did in the manga.

It does open up some questions here. Why they're doing this instead of just starting with the Galactic Patrol thing? Exactly how much stuff will be cut going forward? Why not animate this stuff from scratch if it's going to be so much shorter and include new material anyway? Are they going to do this all year round or a seasonal thing? If they continue to do this with the rest of the arcs, will the Broly and Super Hero arcs use animation from the movies despite the difference in art direction? Why even bother with shortening this arc when BoG and RoF already tell more compact versions of the first two arcs in Super?

Most importantly though, the manga version is straight up incomplete as of writing this, Freeza is now officially much more powerful than the heroes and we still have no conclusion to this. Are they going to allow the manga to continue before proceeding to that or are they just going to make their own conclusion to it?

My best guess is that they need time to animate the new arcs and are a bit worried there might not be any hype if the audience needs to wait another year, so this is just the fastest and/or cheapest way they can produce a prelude.

Oh, and here's a trailer:

[CyberCubed]

We're going to have 3 different anime versions of Beerus coming to Earth and the Super Saiyan God story. And the animation will still likely look worse than the 2013 movie.

[sdp]

I need some Dragon Ball help to understand what's happening.

What exactly was Dragon Ball Kai? I thought it was only a 'remaster' of the old anime cutting out the filler, it changed the music to new music and then changed it back to the original after plagiarism and got a new dub. but did it also animate new stuff? huh? is that real?


And the Beerus movie I originally thought it'd be a remake of the movie, but it's apparently a remake of the anime adaptation of the movie cut down in episode numbers but also adding scenes from the manga adaptation of the movie that wasn't in either of the two anime adaptations?

So is Kai like the beerus movie were they reanimate some scenes but not others? What scenes were reanimated? This will annoy me to no end

[Allio]

Originally Posted by sdp

I need some Dragon Ball help to understand what's happening.

What exactly was Dragon Ball Kai? I thought it was only a 'remaster' of the old anime cutting out the filler, it changed the music to new music and then changed it back to the original after plagiarism and got a new dub. but did it also animate new stuff? huh? is that real?


And the Beerus movie I originally thought it'd be a remake of the movie, but it's apparently a remake of the anime adaptation of the movie cut down in episode numbers but also adding scenes from the manga adaptation of the movie that wasn't in either of the two anime adaptations?

So is Kai like the beerus movie were they reanimate some scenes but not others? What scenes were reanimated? This will annoy me to no end

There are some reanimated scenes in Kai. And while I haven’t seen the show itseld, you can find some screen shots online. Gotta keep in mind that the original film of DBZ hasn’t been kept well. It’s one of the reasons many people hates majority of the home releases (outside of like Dragonbox) and the recent fan project “Seed of Might” remasters are so praised.

But yeah, right now we don’t know what “Beerus” is gonna incoporate other than just a “reanimated” version, I have seen some people hoping it could incoporate some Daima stuff.

[sdp]

Thanks, now, explain Dragon Ball Super to me. I remember reading that the manga and anime were both doing their own thing. Manga wasn't adapting stuff from the anime and viceversa. With the arcs they did both do still having minor differences or in the case of the tournament of power big differences.

Super manga continued and has that stupid black Freeza arc where it stopped. So that's basically what they'll be adapting next?

[Allio]

More or less you have essentially


->Battle of Gods (movie/anime/manga/Beerus) -> Resurrection F (movie anime) -> 6vs 7 (anime/manga) -> Goku Black (Anime/manga) -> Tournament of Power -> (anime/manga) -> Broly (movie) > Galactic Patrol (anime/manga) -> Granolah (manga) -> Superhero anime/ Superhero manga version

My understanding, Toriyama did a layout of the arcs, but Toei/Toyataro were in charge of getting to point A to Point B

[oldmanwinters]

Man, this franchise will never conclude, will it? I read somewhere Japan’s economy depends on continuing Dragonball animation projects. Perhaps a bit hyperbolic, but… so is the Time Chamber in Kami’s Lookout!

[sdp]

Well I mean Dragon Ball did end in 1996. These are just glorified spin-offs. They don't even fit cleanly in continuity counting they take place before that last scene in the DBZ manga.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Allio

There are some reanimated scenes in Kai.

Just barely. Mostly redrawing certain frames that were too old to survive the HD process and whatnot. There aren't any actual new scenes or anything.

Kai is pretty much DBZ with the filler removed and cleaned up visuals.

Originally Posted by sdp

Thanks, now, explain Dragon Ball Super to me.

Super is the 'let's pretend GT never happened' sequel to Z that takes place between the defeat of Buu and the timeskip.

The manga was made sometime later than the anime, so it wasn't until the Goku Black arc where the major differences between the two hit.

The anime ended with the Tournament of Power but the manga continued with 2 new arcs that both involve Goku and Vegeta working alongside the Galactic Patrol. Given that the new series is called Galactic Patrol, it's clear they're gonna animate the Moro and Granolah arcs, and possibly a filler arc or two to expand the episode count.

It's still too soon to see if Daima is canon to anything. The Super manga tends to make everything fit. For a while there people had doubts that the Super Hero movie fit anywhere and the manga somehow did so. I wouldn't be surprised if whenever they do the next arc, Glorio and Panzy somehow come back and they have some sort of asspull explanation to why Vegeta never used SS3 and Goku never used SS4.

[neatoman]

So Majin Boo's voice actor just died. Considering that Boo will be a major character in this, they'll have to recast him.

[CyberCubed]

Half the old cast was already replaced. Yamcha's VA also got fired for raping a woman so he will be recast as well.

DB aired 40 years ago so all the actors are old as hell. They really need to recast them all once Goku's Japanese VA dies. That's probably what they're waiting for before they do a full new cast.

[sdp]

It's so silly how all these stories are supposed to happen before the final scene in DBZ. They all act like they haven't seen each other in ages and yet with all the stories they try to shove into this small time frame they ltierally just saw each other a few weeks ago and went 5 levels more of super saiyan.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by neatoman

So Majin Boo's voice actor just died. Considering that Boo will be a major character in this, they'll have to recast him.

The real one or the American one?

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by sdp

It's so silly how all these stories are supposed to happen before the final scene in DBZ. They all act like they haven't seen each other in ages and yet with all the stories they try to shove into this small time frame they ltierally just saw each other a few weeks ago and went 5 levels more of super saiyan.

That is the biggest plot hole any of these sequels and specials and whatnot create. The fact that 'they haven't seen each other for years' when yeah, they did. All the time.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

The real one or the American one?

The Japanese one.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by neatoman

The Japanese one.

Damn... that's sad. I wonder if he did some lines beforehand?

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Damn... that's sad. I wonder if he did some lines beforehand?

Probably not, at least after the Beerus adaption which is only 6 eps. But the entire Japanese cast is old as hell now (obviously it aired in the late 80's and early 90's), and as I said above half of them have already died and been recast.