The Boys (Amazon Prime)

[Drose18]

Totally agree with y’all. Finale was good but really wish there was a little more action. The whole season could have used more action/fights.

[Andrew NDB]

I wonder how much of the finale will be resolved in Gen V season 2 and not Boys season 5. Probably a great deal.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

And I take it back about the Kimiko/Frenchie direction earlier... now I see where it was going. It all worked out well. I hope they stay the course.

Turns out... NOPE!

[TheLabRat]

The ending and the final battle were truly disappointing.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by TheLabRat

The ending and the final battle were truly disappointing.

It really went full-bore TDS/Daredevil: Season 2 here. But that isn't even really what bothered me here. What bothered me was the use -- or lack thereof -- of the Gen V characters. The main lady who can control blood and all were built up as Homelander Killers. That's their sole purpose, the main lady especially. And the end of Gen V season 2, they were whisked off to face Homelander in the Boys final season only to... not? Instead they are just asked to protect and escort some random people into Canada and never even use their powers once? That was the purpose of their spinoff show? Pretty appalling.

I can just imagine the writers room trying that, though, and crying about it. "It needs to be just Butcher, Ryan and Homelander there! No Gen V people (though they probably tried it on some early drafts)! And we need a woman there! It HAS to be a woman taking away his toxic masculinity!!" So they literally fridged Soldier Boy to fudge Kimiko into there some contrived way out of nowhere. Guaranteed it was going to be Soldier Boy at the end there until they made it not.

[CyberCubed]

Soldier Boy's handling and subplot really dragged down the season. They get him out of the storage, have him hint he'll turn on Homelander, then he actually helps him when they kill all the comedy actors, and then Homelander just immediately fridges him again? What was the point?

Gen V characters were screwed over, sure.

While Homelander's ending was fine, I guess it just wasn't "big enough" for some people. The final fight is just in the small oval office, with basically two people, and Kimiko just shooting one blast? I'm fine with how Butcher and Homelander ended up. Also Starlight didn't really do much of anything? It felt like her fight with The Deep was just to give her "something" to do even though it was relatively unimportant.

Really felt like most of the characters were kind of wasted in the end. Where they all ended up was fine, (A-Train dying, Frenchie dying, Kimiko's development, Homelander's son, etc), but the road to get there wasn't that interesting.

[Andrew NDB]

I will say the Deep's end was bullsh**. I'm fine with him dying but... killed by an octopus? He has Homelander-level skin, we were told, to be able to handle the immense depths of the Mariana Trench and so on.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Soldier Boy's handling and subplot really dragged down the season. They get him out of the storage, have him hint he'll turn on Homelander, then he actually helps him when they kill all the comedy actors, and then Homelander just immediately fridges him again? What was the point?

Gen V characters were screwed over, sure.

While Homelander's ending was fine, I guess it just wasn't "big enough" for some people. The final fight is just in the small oval office, with basically two people, and Kimiko just shooting one blast? I'm fine with how Butcher and Homelander ended up. Also Starlight didn't really do much of anything? It felt like her fight with The Deep was just to give her "something" to do even though it was relatively unimportant.

Really felt like most of the characters were kind of wasted in the end. Where they all ended up was fine, (A-Train dying, Frenchie dying, Kimiko's development, Homelander's son, etc), but the road to get there wasn't that interesting.

All fair points. I have much less of a problem with Homelander's demise than I think most do, but yeah. Most of the season was wasted on stuff that was meaningless.

For example: so many episodes wasted on chasing after V-1, looking up dead ends and new leads and all of that... and then finally Homelander gets it... and NOTHING changes. There absolutely 0 things in that finale that would be impacted even a little bit if V-1 didn't even exist in the story and if Homelander never got it. It didn't make Homelander any stronger, any more impervious to anything.

Mostly the whole show just smacks of a writer's room that's too big and too unruly and not policed. Making up stuff as they go and then changing their mind constantly about seemingly everything.

[member_removed]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I will say the Deep's end was bullsh**. I'm fine with him dying but... killed by an octopus? He has Homelander-level skin, we were told, to be able to handle the immense depths of the Mariana Trench and so on.

My interpretation of that scene was the octopus went full anime Japanese tentacle porn. Back door and all. Similar to how they killed Translucent in season one,

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

For example: so many episodes wasted on chasing after V-1, looking up dead ends and new leads and all of that... and then finally Homelander gets it... and NOTHING changes. There absolutely 0 things in that finale that would be impacted even a little bit if V-1 didn't even exist in the story and if Homelander never got it. It didn't make Homelander any stronger, any more impervious to anything.

The season by whole did fell like a serious side quests. Initially the virus, which wouldn’t kill Soldier Boy, but isn’t the plan to take out Homelander? The Virus would still work.
Then the V1 side quest, which really only delays the virus, because Hughie and Frenchie think they can use that to save Annie and Kimiko.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Mostly the whole show just smacks of a writer's room that's too big and too unruly and not policed. Making up stuff as they go and then changing their mind constantly about seemingly everything.

Which leads to, quest number three, lets build up Kimiko with a Soldier Boy upgrade, came straight out left field! With two episodes remaining. The ****. Ryan also returning felt really out of the blue, after ignoring him all season.
Oh and it’s super easy to break into the Whitehouse via the secret “**** tunnels”. At least there was a trap waiting for them there. But that was ****ing dumb.
Let not forgot “Chekov’s ball gag”.

Completely agree about the Gen V characters being sent to Canada! What was the point of Gen V? And I really enjoyed Gen V. But I was fully expecting Marie to be part of the final confrontation, they spent two seasons building her up (very well IMHO). It just got turned into a cash money grab, more content to sell more Prime subscriptions.
It was a great series, and the landing was always going to be difficult to stick.
I’m still very cynical regarding Voight Rising.

[Andrew NDB]

No no, Translucent had a weakness inside. Deep couldn't have that inside or he'd implode in rhe Mariana Trench. His butthole would be like Superman's.

[TheLabRat]

I think if they released Soldier Boy again and had him strip Homelander's superpower will better than had Kimiko do it. At least this will be ultimate denial of Homelander's desire for paternal approval, and this would be another worse fate for Homelander.

[CyberCubed]

I mean after how Gen V was treated, do they think people really care about these other spinoffs they have coming? A Soldier Boy prequel series, The Boys: Mexico? Why should anyone can about more spinoffs when Gen V literally proved irrelevant and we know how the characters like Soldier Boy wind up?

What reason would anyone want to check out more spinoffs of this show now? I imagine they'll all be canceled in 1 season, even Gen V only got 2 seasons before killing it.