TMNT: Saturday Morning Adventures #41 preview/discussion

[nidza_maj2000]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Yes, I know some of those almost straight up lie about the contents, I know of this one Miles Morales' cover that makes it look like he's fighting the Hobgoblin when in the actual issue the Hobgoblin is just off somewhere else and don't even interact with Miles.

But I was thinking of that cover with the characters running in a curving line. You know, the ones that has characters that debuted in this particular series and/or were in the FW cartoon its intended to be in continuity with. So it's kinda odd that a character like Alopex is there, alongside Jagwar... And also features the Archie design of Slash. You know, the cover that mostly seems to homage what this particular series was about, yet still feature token elements that had nothing to do with it?

... By the way, who's the red fox in the blue jacket?

This comic is same universe as 1987 show

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Yes, I know some of those almost straight up lie about the contents, I know of this one Miles Morales' cover that makes it look like he's fighting the Hobgoblin when in the actual issue the Hobgoblin is just off somewhere else and don't even interact with Miles.

But I was thinking of that cover with the characters running in a curving line. You know, the ones that has characters that debuted in this particular series and/or were in the FW cartoon its intended to be in continuity with. So it's kinda odd that a character like Alopex is there, alongside Jagwar... And also features the Archie design of Slash. You know, the cover that mostly seems to homage what this particular series was about, yet still feature token elements that had nothing to do with it?

Yeah, even a main cover can be whatever. But variants are typically even more lax.

Mitchroney has never actually worked on this book. He’s a throwback who does covers occasionally. They clearly just let him have some fun with this one and do whatever.

... By the way, who's the red fox in the blue jacket?

[Chaotix12345]

Originally Posted by neatoman

... By the way, who's the red fox in the blue jacket?

He's from Ken Mitchroney's own comic, Space Ark. He was clearly given free reign for his cover.

[ToTheNines]

One thing that stinks about the series getting cancelled is the fact that Schoening never did a Mirage #1 cover recreation. Sad!

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

One thing that stinks about the series getting cancelled is the fact that Schoening never did a Mirage #1 cover recreation. Sad!

Don't take this the wrong way, but I think i'd vomit seeing the FW turtles try to homage that. Even if it's not a parody and more straight forward, there's just something wrong about the FW turtles being used to homage the source material when the FW show essentially created a sub-fanbase (which is a vocal sub-fanbase) who essentially pretend the FW cartoon is the source material. It would seem like an insult no matter what.

[Heyowakka]

We’ll have to agree to disagree because I think it would be freaking cool to see.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Don't take this the wrong way, but I think i'd vomit seeing the FW turtles try to homage that. Even if it's not a parody and more straight forward, there's just something wrong about the FW turtles being used to homage the source material when the FW show essentially created a sub-fanbase (which is a vocal sub-fanbase) who essentially pretend the FW cartoon is the source material. It would seem like an insult no matter what.

[Heyowakka]

Neatoman will now perform his impersonation of Puke-Girl!

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Heyowakka

Neatoman will now perform his impersonation of Puke-Girl!

Damn straight I will!

[ToTheNines]

New Turtle Tracks about the end of the series featuring Burnham, Myers and Delgado just dropped. I’m only 5 minutes in, I’ll report back if they drop any nuggets.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...=1000784191452

[ToTheNines]

It’s definitely worth a listen if you’re a fan of the series, but no real news that we didn’t already know.

The only tidbit about #41 was pretty disappointing. I was under the assumption that Myers and Schoening were both doing full-length stories, but Schoening is only getting 6 pages. 2 of which are a spread that tease stuff from the other 9 issues they had planned had the book made it to #50.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

It’s definitely worth a listen if you’re a fan of the series, but no real news that we didn’t already know.

The only tidbit about #41 was pretty disappointing. I was under the assumption that Myers and Schoening were both doing full-length stories, but Schoening is only getting 6 pages. 2 of which are a spread that tease stuff from the other 9 issues they had planned had the book made it to #50.

Are those pages still going to see print?

[ToTheNines]

Sorry, I’m not sure I understand what you’re asking.

Sarah Myers is doing the main story for the final issue. Dan Schoening is doing a 6 page backup story about Old Man Michelangelo (his brothers are “missing”, so it’s like a FW Last Ronin situation). Burnham’s goal was to make it issue #50, so he had story ideas for 9 issues that we’ll likely never actually see, but the final page will be a 2-page spread that shows bits and pieces of these untold stories.

[ToTheNines]

Wait, I did forget one interesting reveal. They ultimately decided against it, but they were considering doing the final arc either in the full-on Red Sky motif, or potentially just turning the sky red and leaving the character designs as is.

I'm glad they didn't go that route.

[ZariusTwo]

It's bad enough they were essentially trying to bridge the gap to the red sky to begin with, a big part of why Sat Adventures was something of a frequent turn off for me

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

It's bad enough they were essentially trying to bridge the gap to the red sky to begin with, a big part of why Sat Adventures was something of a frequent turn off for me

I’m glad they’re avoiding a Red Sky transition for the ending. I also always resented the idea that it was supposed to fit in between 7 and 8. I always thought it was pretty clear that not much time passes between “Shredder Triumphant!” and “Get Shredder!”

As much as the marketing and the casuals insist this series is between those two episodes, it just isn’t. Once I was able to view it as an alternate timeline branching off after season 7, it became much more enjoyable for me.

[Heyowakka]

Yep, it all stems back to issue #2 of the mini-series, which can only possibly exist during season 2.
Saturday Morning Adventures is an alternate 1987 timeline where the Turtles were introduced to TCRI during its second season, Michelangelo never swapped his nunchaku for a grappling hook, which leads to Shredder not destroying the Channel 6 building in Get Shredder! Personally, I see this as the only way this comic can realistically exist.

[sdp]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

but they were considering doing the final arc either in the full-on Red Sky motif, or potentially just turning the sky red and leaving the character designs as is.

I would've loved this.

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

As much as the marketing and the casuals insist this series is between those two episodes, it just isn’t.

I haven't read it but if there aren't contradictions I like stories that can actually fit, of course you always have to do some mental gymnastics. But come on, Turtles Forever & the like just aren't as intersting if you go "These are a divergent timeline of the 1987 turtles where things went different and bla bla bla", sometimes it's better to not think about it and yeah "**** happened so this story can logically make sense to fit in here".

Granted I wouldn't ever tell someone that something that happened in a comic book of a tv show is actually 100% canon to the show itself like some people online seem to get all anal about.

[Coola Yagami]

It is interesting how they managed to fit everything in there.

The Turtles Forever Technodrome appears implying that it's a future event.

Tiger Claw and the worm appear, suggesting that his random encounter in the 1987 world will be a future event.

We saw Lord Dregg implying the Red Sky stuff is coming up.

It would be funny if the last page of the comic would casually turn the sky red, though something like that might have been reserved for issue 50 before they pulled the plug early.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Heyowakka

Yep, it all stems back to issue #2 of the mini-series, which can only possibly exist during season 2.
Saturday Morning Adventures is an alternate 1987 timeline where the Turtles were introduced to TCRI during its second season, Michelangelo never swapped his nunchaku for a grappling hook, which leads to Shredder not destroying the Channel 6 building in Get Shredder! Personally, I see this as the only way this comic can realistically exist.

Originally Posted by sdp

I would've loved this.


I haven't read it but if there aren't contradictions I like stories that can actually fit, of course you always have to do some mental gymnastics. But come on, Turtles Forever & the like just aren't as intersting if you go "These are a divergent timeline of the 1987 turtles where things went different and bla bla bla", sometimes it's better to not think about it and yeah "**** happened so this story can logically make sense to fit in here".

Granted I wouldn't ever tell someone that something that happened in a comic book of a tv show is actually 100% canon to the show itself like some people online seem to get all anal about.

“Get Shredder!” seems to be shortly after season 7. I know most people aren’t timeline autists like me and just imagine the show operates under Peanuts time, but nearly 50 stories have taken place and two winter seasons have passed.

Also, season 8 shows the bad guys just finding the Hall of Science as a new hideout. But they’ve been using it since early on in SMA. There’s a couple of other small contradictions, but those are the main ones. So it’ll always be an alternate season 8 for me, instead of a bridge.

EDIT: There’s also Old Man Mike from Battle Nexus and the upcoming finale backup. We’ll see what comes from that, but he’s living a quasi-Last Ronin life separated from his brothers and still in fighting shape. The future of FW shown in “Once Upon a Time Machine” reveals he’s a fat chud living with his family in an old folks home.