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Old Yesterday, 11:35 AM   #201
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In a major shakeupJames Gunn and Peter Safran stepping down as co-CEOs of DC studios.

Skydance, which now oversees the division thanks to its acquisition of Warner Bros. Discovery, has appointed former Marvel exec Jeremy Latcham to the post of president and chief creative officer of DC Studios.

Gunn and Safran are stepping down from their leadership roles effect Dec. 1, four years after taking over the job to much fanfare. The duo released three movies during that time (Superman, Supergirl and Clayface), as well as three live-action TV shows (The Penguin, Peacemaker season 2 and Lanterns), and had a decade’s worth of plans in the works.
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Old Yesterday, 11:41 AM   #202
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Holy moley... there goes that!

Savage. They weren't even willing to see how Man of Tomorrow did box office-wise. They're like, "NOPE... we need to hit the brakes on all this right NOW!" After Lanterns I don't blame them, honestly.
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Old Yesterday, 11:59 AM   #203
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Holy moley... there goes that!

Savage. They weren't even willing to see how Man of Tomorrow did box office-wise. They're like, "NOPE... we need to hit the brakes on all this right NOW!" After Lanterns I don't blame them, honestly.


I just saw this from CBR and came here to post it. Most reasonable people saw this coming twice.

Saw this coming 1.0 - that announced production slate
Saw this coming 2.0 - James Gunn holding business expos/interviews cheerleading his Universe design like Kevin Feige does. Yet holding those expos over years now before establishing an actual film output.

The only other time I've ever seen that happen so egregiously was this Indiana Jones Documentary some fan did where the documentary itself was basically a chronical of the guy going around telling people that they were making a documentary rather than actually making a documentary.
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Old Yesterday, 12:13 PM   #204
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Gunn's send-off on threads describes himself as having ADHD and not being able to navigate through corporate structure
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Old Yesterday, 12:40 PM   #205
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Gunn's send-off on threads describes himself as having ADHD and not being able to navigate through corporate structure
-facepalms-

God, people will say anything to justify their corner nowadays.

Gunn previously and successfully made multi-million dollar movies, which is project-management done successfully on a scale that people don't often credit Director's for.

And so, what happened here is that Gunn got ego-high, and put the cart before the horse. Kevin Feige is just as insipid, with his "announcement seminars" akin to a Bill Gates dancing like a nerd onstage at a Microsoft product rally. Except that Feige, unlike Gunn, had already made some succcesful Universe movies before he started jerking off in public about it.

Gunn was never going to get people excited about f'n "Creature Commandos" and f'n "Clayface" before anyone got on board with one of DC's more accessible and interesting heros as an anchor.
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Old Yesterday, 12:52 PM   #206
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DC has got to DC lmao
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So, can I have The Batman - Part 3 now?
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Old Yesterday, 12:56 PM   #208
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So what do they do? Quietly retool Gunn's DCU? "Soft-revival," I guess? Or burn it down and try again?

Or what?

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So, can I have The Batman - Part 3 now?
Jesus, that's about the last thing on f***ing Earth we need, or I would want.
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Old Yesterday, 01:23 PM   #209
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Old Yesterday, 01:27 PM   #210
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Gunn's send-off on threads describes himself as having ADHD and not being able to navigate through corporate structure
God, I'm starting to see these interview bits now.

"It's not my faaaault, it is the ADHD!!!!!!!"

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Saw this coming 1.0 - that announced production slate
Saw this coming 2.0 - James Gunn holding business expos/interviews cheerleading his Universe design like Kevin Feige does. Yet holding those expos over years now before establishing an actual film output.
It does remind me of one other time...


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Old Yesterday, 01:59 PM   #211
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Guess the Slate got wiped clean?

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Old Yesterday, 02:11 PM   #212
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No, Man of Tomorrow 2 is coming next year, as well as that Jimmy Olsen/Gorilla Grodd TV series.

My guess is anything not into deep production will be canceled and the universe will continue with different movies greenlit instead. They're not going to drop Superman/Lois/Luthor I'm willing to bet.
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Old Yesterday, 02:19 PM   #213
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Back in the day some kind of 3-movie trilogy was on every actor's wishlist as a regular franchise paycheck.

Now? You get that simply by signing as a superhero. Milly Alcock technically has a trilogy of appearances between the first Corensweat flick, his sequel and her own movie. And the same for Corensweat if he appeared in Supergirl (I haven't seen that dog$#!( mess).

And so in reality they could wipe the current DC slate after the next Superman movie. I'd guess their best bet as a studio would be a big budget "Crisis" movie to meet Marvel's multiverse stuff, but DC already burned that card on TV.

I'd say they should go back and finish the Snyderverse but even I'm leaning towards that it's too far gone at this point.
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Old Yesterday, 02:21 PM   #214
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I'd say it depends entirely how Man of Tomorrow does. If it's a huge hit, then they'll likely keep Superman/Lois/Luthor and ask Gunn to write a third movie. If it's not, then that might be the end.

But I don't think the sequel will do badly, but who knows. Anything else is likely canceled though, like Lanterns getting another season or the weird Brave and the Bold and Swamp Thing movies he was talking about.
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Old Yesterday, 02:24 PM   #215
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It won't be a huge hit even if it's a great movie. A huge volume of tickets sales nowadays are about "where the party is at" and not about "interest in a movie" on it's own merits. Iron Man 3 sold tickets almost purely on 'where the party is at" and that movie was dog$#!(.

The next Superman movie could be really solid and better than the first, but DC on-film has pretty terrible sentiment around it. And now, this news with Gunn sets Superman's sequel up in the same sentiment as Flashpoint was... which was "the last flick of a defunct Universe".

In short, there's no party at DC on film and that's honestly what sells tickets nowadays. People don't really go to the theater anymore "to see a movie".
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I don't think they will reboot but clearly any plan is out the Window. Not like any plan was exactly established. It's hilarious how much this is echoing the dceu
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Of course there was a plan. Phase 1: "Gods & Monsters," then more phases.

Seriously, though, if there is just a REAL change of direction and tone behind the scenes, Superman and Supergirl are relatively salvageable. Lanterns, though... maaan... they really ruined the whole Green Lantern IP in one fell swoop. They would literally need to just ignore Lanterns entirely and then give us REAL Green Lantern stuff, or make it some other dimension crap.
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Man dc is damaged goods how hard is it to make a competent universe. The dcau cartoons did it perfectly in the 90s
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I think Andrew posted something about Grodd leading a musical dance or something in the upcoming Jimmy Olsen Series…..

Dancing Grodd…..yeah I would wanna clean house too after that lol
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Old Yesterday, 09:34 PM   #220
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I don't know why Gunn thought people needed to watch a Jimmy Olsen TV spinoff to begin with. It really was odd the type of projects he greenlit instead of things he should of done. Why was he obsessed with giving C and D-tier characters spotlight?

Even in the Superman movie, it's odd that Hawkgirl, Guy Gardner, Mr. Terrific and Metamorpho were even in it. Most people have no idea who these characters even are.
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