Good Charlotte and Avril Lavigne

Misfit · 12-28-2003, 01:03 PM

Two seperate music acts who seem to be fairly controversial. On one hand they both have their fans but on the other there seem to be people who like to hate them just for hating's sake.

What's your point of view on Good Charlotte and Avril Lavigne? Do you think they are talented and original? Are you a fan, causal listener or do you totally despise them? Or do you just not care and have no opinion on either at all?

Personally I'm a big fan of them both. I first heard Good Charlotte when "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous" hit big and have been a big fan of Avril since "Complicated". I'm very into both and have CDs, DVDs...
I think they have talented and and are original...I can really relate to both lyrics (especially GC) so I like them a lot for that too.

How about you?

*Anarky* · 12-28-2003, 01:15 PM

I have nothing against Avril LAvigne (except for her name that is so difficult to type

)

but: I do really hate good charlotte. theay're one of these acts who just make music because they can make money with it. they say ni one of their songs "They try to tell me what punk is" who're they talking about? themselves? Hell, those guys aren't punks. they're greedy kids trying to get as much money while doing "Punk rock" They don't act like punks, they don't think like punks, they are no punks. So that had to be said.

Demonfox38 · 12-28-2003, 02:00 PM

No beef with either personally, but my sister hates Avril with a passion. Here's the story:

My sister is big into singers like P!nk and stuff. Avril seemed cool, and she liked her music for a little while--until she heard that Avril was a cheerleader at one time. Now, she calls her a poser.

Then again, I don't know where she gets her info. The only musican I really have problems with is Eminem. Music is to share emotion (and anger is a good emotion

), not to try and get shock value. (I wrote an entire essay on how censorship needs to be lowered everywhere except for music, and he was my main 'scape goat', you could say--got an A on it.)

Yay for '70s rockers!

MW8979 · 12-28-2003, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonfox38

Then again, I don't know where she gets her info. The only musican I really have problems with is Eminem. Music is to share emotion (and anger is a good emotion

), not to try and get shock value. (I wrote an entire essay on how censorship needs to be lowered everywhere except for music, and he was my main 'scape goat', you could say--got an A on it.)

Yay for '70s rockers!

I have to agree with that. Music should be kept censored for vulgarity and explicit content. I mean, to a degree, the song themes can be violent or dark, but as long as it's not overly gory, depressing or just filled with swearing. I think that takes away from the concept of "music" in general. Conversely, TV censorship should be lowered a lot. I'm tired of watching lame shows or good shows with parts cut out, because there are people out there who have nothing better to do then to complain about the content of this or that show. If there was no law that requiered those standards to exist in the first place, there would be nothing to appeal, and we'd all get a lot more entertaining programming and less bitching and whining.

~~Reznorite420~~ · 12-28-2003, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperShredder84

Music should be kept censored for vulgarity and explicit content. I mean, to a degree, the song themes can be violent or dark, but as long as it's not overly gory, depressing or just filled with swearing. I think that takes away from the concept of "music" in general. Conversely, TV censorship should be lowered a lot. I'm tired of watching lame shows or good shows with parts cut out, because there are people out there who have nothing better to do then to complain about the content of this or that show. If there was no law that requiered those standards to exist in the first place, there would be nothing to appeal, and we'd all get a lot more entertaining programming and less bitching and whining.

Censor one but not the other? Somebody help me...

Peanut · 12-28-2003, 05:16 PM

I personally don't care about image. I know people who claim to be "real punkers" but only two or so years ago they were "real gangsters". I couldn't care less how bands look or act. If they're music is good I'll listen. Simple as that.

*Taloniss* · 12-28-2003, 07:17 PM

Don't like eithers music.

GodzFire · 12-28-2003, 07:34 PM

Good C's an okay band, but Avril is just fake as fake can get. There's a site, not sure what it is offhand, which lists the top 10 reasons why Avril sucks. While it sounds stupid, the reasons they give are some very good ones.

Proof's in the pudding

[combined post by Mike: Please don't double post.]

U2WaTCHer · 12-29-2003, 12:33 AM

dam thats a bad ass site they sure put her down to size. This guy did mad research

*Stone Ill* · 12-29-2003, 12:37 AM

I used to like Good Charlotte. Then only their first album and no I don't like them anymore. I don't hate them, I just don't like them.

I find people who supposedly really hate them for no reason practically to be complete losers. Demonfox, if your sister calls Avril a poser, then she must be a poser herself.

Most girls are pretty much 'posers' in their early teens. The proof is in every highschool.

Nosferatu · 12-29-2003, 12:43 AM

I like Good Charlotte. I'm not a big fan of them, but I am a casual fan. As for Avril Lavigne, I'm not really a fan. I enjoyed her music when she first debuted, but her music soon became dull.

I don't care much how performers act when they're not performing. If they make music I enjoy and they are a complete prick, I on't mind much. It's the music I care about.

*That Matt Guy* · 12-29-2003, 06:22 AM

I don't know who or what Good Charlotte is. Avril Lavigne is... I don't know because I don't care.

Demonfox38 · 12-29-2003, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Stone Ill

Demonfox, if your sister calls Avril a poser, then she must be a poser herself.

Actually, I have no idea what she is.

When she was a kid, her favorite movie was Nightmare Before Christmas. Now, she runs around in complete black all the time--but at least she takes humor in it.

It's like she's the Diet Coke of Goth--probably because she has ash-blonde hair and her mom won't let her dye it.

But seriously, she has huge lists on why she hates people. It's not a good thing, and they are all good facts. One time she told my father to burst into flames, and he almost died that same day.

Plus, she watches TMNT with me. So, knock it off. I love my sister.

*Stone Ill* · 12-29-2003, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonfox38

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Originally Posted by Stone Ill

Demonfox, if your sister calls Avril a poser, then she must be a poser herself.

Actually, I have no idea what she is.

When she was a kid, her favorite movie was Nightmare Before Christmas. Now, she runs around in complete black all the time--but at least she takes humor in it.

It's like she's the Diet Coke of Goth--probably because she has ash-blonde hair and her mom won't let her dye it.

But seriously, she has huge lists on why she hates people. It's not a good thing, and they are all good facts. One time she told my father to burst into flames, and he almost died that same day.

Plus, she watches TMNT with me. So, knock it off. I love my sister.

No, I wasn't telling you to hate your sister. I was just saying, now with evidence, that she's a hypocrite. But don't think I'm making fun of her. My sister is the exact same way. Except she dyed her hair blonde.

Demonfox38 · 12-29-2003, 01:34 PM

Sorry, I get very defense about my sister.

You know how that is.

*Stone Ill* · 12-29-2003, 01:37 PM

Yeah, but the thing with my sister is, I hate the way she's acting, but I still love her. It's kind of weird.

*Anarky* · 12-29-2003, 01:51 PM

sheesh you should see my brother. listening to "good rock music" such as linkin park or robbiewilliams and pretending to be a^n intellectual, i-am-above-all being. its some kind of "diseadse" that spreads out when you enter a certain school. But hey, h's my brother...

(he like GC and AL btw,)

*Raven* · 12-29-2003, 03:01 PM

man I hate both just because there in the pop light. but if I was forced to listen to one of them I would listen to GC, but i kinda think there posers, just because they dress in all black and act all kind ah never mind its my oponion.

*The Defibrillator* · 12-30-2003, 01:02 AM

I think I've voiced my opinion about GC quite a bit on here, but I'll do it again I guess....

GC's music, IMO is amazing. I love "Hold On" and "My Old Man." On the other hand, the dudes are complete posers and they're just....stupid. I hate the band as people, but their music is good and that's why I listen to em.

As for Avril.....I like 3 or 4 songs on one CD, but other than that, she's alright I guess. I don't know enough about her to judge otherwise.

12-28-2003, 01:03 PM	#1
Misfit Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2003 Location: UK Posts: 508	Good Charlotte and Avril Lavigne Two seperate music acts who seem to be fairly controversial. On one hand they both have their fans but on the other there seem to be people who like to hate them just for hating's sake. What's your point of view on Good Charlotte and Avril Lavigne? Do you think they are talented and original? Are you a fan, causal listener or do you totally despise them? Or do you just not care and have no opinion on either at all? Personally I'm a big fan of them both. I first heard Good Charlotte when "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous" hit big and have been a big fan of Avril since "Complicated". I'm very into both and have CDs, DVDs... I think they have talented and and are original...I can really relate to both lyrics (especially GC) so I like them a lot for that too. How about you? __________________ My LiveJournal My Fanfiction "I'm the pretty one!" - Mikey in "Meet Casey Jones".

12-28-2003, 01:15 PM	#2
Anarky Outlaw Hero Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tannhauser Gate Posts: 4,867	I have nothing against Avril LAvigne (except for her name that is so difficult to type ) but: I do really hate good charlotte. theay're one of these acts who just make music because they can make money with it. they say ni one of their songs "They try to tell me what punk is" who're they talking about? themselves? Hell, those guys aren't punks. they're greedy kids trying to get as much money while doing "Punk rock" They don't act like punks, they don't think like punks, they are no punks. So that had to be said. __________________ Because it's... I dunno... brutal.

12-29-2003, 12:33 AM	#9
U2WaTCHer Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 365	dam thats a bad ass site they sure put her down to size. This guy did mad research __________________ Krang ------ Long Live The Krang Legions!------

12-29-2003, 01:51 PM	#17
Anarky Outlaw Hero Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tannhauser Gate Posts: 4,867	sheesh you should see my brother. listening to "good rock music" such as linkin park or robbiewilliams and pretending to be a^n intellectual, i-am-above-all being. its some kind of "diseadse" that spreads out when you enter a certain school. But hey, h's my brother... (he like GC and AL btw,) __________________ Because it's... I dunno... brutal.

12-29-2003, 03:01 PM	#18
Raven follower of Jesus Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,212	man I hate both just because there in the pop light. but if I was forced to listen to one of them I would listen to GC, but i kinda think there posers, just because they dress in all black and act all kind ah never mind its my oponion. __________________ TMNT Future Despair Deviant Offical Ultimate Ninja Turtles Site!

12-28-2003, 02:00 PM	#3
Demonfox38 Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 531	No beef with either personally, but my sister hates Avril with a passion. Here's the story: My sister is big into singers like P!nk and stuff. Avril seemed cool, and she liked her music for a little while--until she heard that Avril was a cheerleader at one time. Now, she calls her a poser. Then again, I don't know where she gets her info. The only musican I really have problems with is Eminem. Music is to share emotion (and anger is a good emotion ), not to try and get shock value. (I wrote an entire essay on how censorship needs to be lowered everywhere except for music, and he was my main 'scape goat', you could say--got an A on it.) Yay for '70s rockers!

12-28-2003, 05:16 PM	#6
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	I personally don't care about image. I know people who claim to be "real punkers" but only two or so years ago they were "real gangsters". I couldn't care less how bands look or act. If they're music is good I'll listen. Simple as that.

12-28-2003, 07:17 PM	#7
Taloniss Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,819	Don't like eithers music.

12-28-2003, 07:34 PM	#8
GodzFire Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Sewers Posts: 292	Good C's an okay band, but Avril is just fake as fake can get. There's a site, not sure what it is offhand, which lists the top 10 reasons why Avril sucks. While it sounds stupid, the reasons they give are some very good ones. Proof's in the pudding [combined post by Mike: Please don't double post.]

12-29-2003, 12:37 AM	#10
Stone Ill Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Burlington, Ontario Posts: 2,397	I used to like Good Charlotte. Then only their first album and no I don't like them anymore. I don't hate them, I just don't like them. I find people who supposedly really hate them for no reason practically to be complete losers. Demonfox, if your sister calls Avril a poser, then she must be a poser herself. Most girls are pretty much 'posers' in their early teens. The proof is in every highschool.

12-29-2003, 12:43 AM	#11
Nosferatu Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 283	I like Good Charlotte. I'm not a big fan of them, but I am a casual fan. As for Avril Lavigne, I'm not really a fan. I enjoyed her music when she first debuted, but her music soon became dull. I don't care much how performers act when they're not performing. If they make music I enjoy and they are a complete prick, I on't mind much. It's the music I care about.

12-29-2003, 06:22 AM	#12
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	I don't know who or what Good Charlotte is. Avril Lavigne is... I don't know because I don't care.

12-29-2003, 01:34 PM	#15
Demonfox38 Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 531	Sorry, I get very defense about my sister. You know how that is.

12-29-2003, 01:37 PM	#16
Stone Ill Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Burlington, Ontario Posts: 2,397	Yeah, but the thing with my sister is, I hate the way she's acting, but I still love her. It's kind of weird.

12-30-2003, 01:02 AM	#19
The Defibrillator Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dee Eff Dubble You Posts: 1,631	I think I've voiced my opinion about GC quite a bit on here, but I'll do it again I guess.... GC's music, IMO is amazing. I love "Hold On" and "My Old Man." On the other hand, the dudes are complete posers and they're just....stupid. I hate the band as people, but their music is good and that's why I listen to em. As for Avril.....I like 3 or 4 songs on one CD, but other than that, she's alright I guess. I don't know enough about her to judge otherwise. __________________ My newest signature.