The official E3 thread! - Page 3

*Taloniss* · 05-10-2004, 05:05 PM

I'm interested in the DS. But I'm curious has to how it's not going to compete with the GBA. I don't see how it couldn't, really.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 05-10-2004, 06:10 PM

Everyone is. We'll learn in two days. Personally, I think the thing will have a cartridge slot and kill the GBA in time. They're just seperating them until they see if it's a hit. If so, they kill GBA, if not they kill DS and pretend it never happened, and go on with GBA until it's true suscessor. I hope the DS takes off because it's a new idea and the industry is pretty devoid of new ideas nowadays.

I will not make another post because I've got to save the next one for something special....

Peanut · 05-10-2004, 06:29 PM

DS is supposed to be the "third pilar" I'd really like to see how that works.

*Brodie* · 05-10-2004, 06:36 PM

The yays:

Metroid Prime 2
Resident Evil 4
Spider-Man2(GTA style)

The nays:

The Cube needs more stuff...

Peanut · 05-10-2004, 06:40 PM

That's why I hope the big N pulls something big out of their hat this year. I've been praying to Shiggy every night for the last month. Please give Nintendo fans something to be excited about this year!

Toad64 · 05-10-2004, 06:47 PM

To whoever asked a while back, the E3 show started ten years ago this year. As to what games were shown, I'm not sure off the top of my head but I'll see if I can find out.

Ah, E3's almost here. I'm excited about everything Nintendo, and the new Kingdom Hearts II. Also, with the announcement that there should be a new TMNT game this October, Konami better be surprising us with a peak at the game!

[edit by Mike: try not to double post]

For anyone who's interested, I searched around through some Nintendo Power magazines and n-sider.com, and found some info on the E3's first show. Although everyone's saying E3 is ten this year, it seems the first show was in 1995.

Sony was showing off the new Playstation, with its titles like Ridge Racer, Tekken, and Wipeout. Sega was showing off its new Saturn, which it surprised everyone by announcing it was out as of that day. Meanwhile, Nintendo was showing off the Virual Boy, and wouldn't show the Nintendo Ultra 64 until that November at the Shoshinkai Show.

It's interesting to read the propaganda in the good ol' Nintendo Power magazine, as they were pretty sure they had nothing to worry about from
Sony. "The big story wasn't what anyone expected. Far from conquering the video game world, the next generation games from Sony and Sega didn't even measure up to the quality of Nintendo's Super NES duo of Killer Instinct and Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest. Against the expensive 32-bit newcomers and their limited and mostly unfinished games, the SNES with its strong lineup of games from Nintendo and third party liscenses looked like a giant killer" It then goes on to list 20 or so games, of which I'd claim 5 I'd played and were great.

Ah, Nintendo. I love you so, but man, were you not ready for what was about to happen...

愛 · 05-10-2004, 07:30 PM

Very informative, Toad64. Thank you so much for that.

Peanut · 05-10-2004, 07:32 PM

Yeah good work. I was 2 years off!

Demonfox38 · 05-10-2004, 08:17 PM

[rant] I've been waiting for E3 since the ending of the last one! Good gawd, a person needs to see if they fixed Star Fox Armada or not! Damn crappy screenshots! [/rant]

Mmkay, I'm good. Here's to Star Fox Armada, Metroid Prime 2, another Zelda, and Paper Mario 2.

MW8979 · 05-10-2004, 08:31 PM

Hmm, that's too bad that the E3 never existed back in the good old days of gaming. As far as I'm concerned, SNES is the best system ever made, followed closely by the NES which produced equally entertaining games. This new stuff may have the flashy graphics but not the addictiveness or the sheer gameplay quality of the older systems.

*Ninjinister* · 05-10-2004, 09:52 PM

My outlook on best/worst games of E3 (mind I haven't seen anything concrete yet, these are just speculation).

BEST
Mortal Kombat Deception (PS2, Xbox) As far as I can tell, this will be the BEST game at E3
Spider-Man 2 (Cube, PC, PS2, Xbox) -Free roaming, and plus all of the other SM games owned)
THUG 2 (Cube, PS2, Xbox) -If it's better than THUG 1 (which kicked ass, this one will be right up there-
Dragon Ball Z: Supersonic Warriors (GBA) -FINALLY! A good DBZ GBA fighter!-
Transformers (PS2) -Seen demos, and it rocks. But why would it be @ E3 when it comes out tomorrow?-
Cowboy Bebop (PS2) -YES! I've been waiting for this!
Digimon Rumble Arena 2 (Cube, Xbox)
Digimon World 4 (Cube, PS2, Xbox) -I still love Digimon. These should be interesting-
Mega Man Anniversary Collection (Cube, GBA, PS2) -W00t! Old skool MM!-
Street Fighter Anniversary Collection (PS2) -Would be better with SF1, but meh, whattya gonna do?-
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (PS2) -Ya'd have to be a freak to not be even mildly excited about this one-
Kingdom Hearts II (PS2) -Drool-

WORST
Duel Masters: Sempai Legends (GBA) -Can you say crappy anime/card game/manga?
Pro Fishing Challenge (Xbox) -Does anyone even play these fishing games?-
SpongeBob: The Movie (Cube, GBA, PC, PS2, Xbox) -Probably the worst of the bunch crappy games, crappy license-
Halo 2 (Xbox) -I'm probably the only one who thinks this, but the first game SUCKED BUTT!-

Hyper Metal Sonic · 05-10-2004, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The S

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (PS2) -Ya'd have to be a freak to not be even mildly excited about this one

I played the original Metal Gear Solid, and it was Okay. I'm not quite sure if a 3rd installment is worth foaming at the mouth like you seem to be alluding to though. And you call me the freak?

Besides your game ratings there, I'd have to note that many people would gladly play a Spongebob game over a Digimon game anyday.

By the way...what makes you think that GBA DBZ game is going to be any better than the 40+ ****** DBZ games released throughout the past 20 years?

*Dane E5R* · 05-10-2004, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The S

Halo 2 (Xbox) -I'm probably the only one who thinks this, but the first game SUCKED BUTT!-

If I ruled the world, people like you would be executed.

*Kid Icarus* · 05-10-2004, 10:30 PM

I'm looking forward to the Nintendo DS, the new GBA Zelda, Metroid Prime 2, Geist, Resident Evil 4, Killer 7, Wind Waker 2, and maybe Mario 128.

愛 · 05-10-2004, 10:30 PM

We got ourself a hater!!!

Peanut · 05-10-2004, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The S

My outlook on best/worst games of E3 (mind I haven't seen anything concrete yet, these are just speculation).

BEST
Mortal Kombat Deception (PS2, Xbox) As far as I can tell, this will be the BEST game at E3
Spider-Man 2 (Cube, PC, PS2, Xbox) -Free roaming, and plus all of the other SM games owned)
THUG 2 (Cube, PS2, Xbox) -If it's better than THUG 1 (which kicked ass, this one will be right up there-
Dragon Ball Z: Supersonic Warriors (GBA) -FINALLY! A good DBZ GBA fighter!-
Transformers (PS2) -Seen demos, and it rocks. But why would it be @ E3 when it comes out tomorrow?-
Cowboy Bebop (PS2) -YES! I've been waiting for this!
Digimon Rumble Arena 2 (Cube, Xbox)
Digimon World 4 (Cube, PS2, Xbox) -I still love Digimon. These should be interesting-
Mega Man Anniversary Collection (Cube, GBA, PS2) -W00t! Old skool MM!-
Street Fighter Anniversary Collection (PS2) -Would be better with SF1, but meh, whattya gonna do?-
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (PS2) -Ya'd have to be a freak to not be even mildly excited about this one-
Kingdom Hearts II (PS2) -Drool-

WORST
Duel Masters: Sempai Legends (GBA) -Can you say crappy anime/card game/manga?
Pro Fishing Challenge (Xbox) -Does anyone even play these fishing games?-
SpongeBob: The Movie (Cube, GBA, PC, PS2, Xbox) -Probably the worst of the bunch crappy games, crappy license-
Halo 2 (Xbox) -I'm probably the only one who thinks this, but the first game SUCKED BUTT!-

This is THE worst list I have EVER seen.

愛 · 05-10-2004, 10:43 PM

True that. That is downright horrible...Mortal Kombat?! COME ON!!! Cowboy Bebop will be ruined. Mega Man Collection better have EVERY Mega Man or else it's worthless.

MW8979 · 05-10-2004, 11:20 PM

Speaking of that... are all the NES games going to be redone in 16 bit?

Peanut · 05-10-2004, 11:42 PM

No. They're just re-issues.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 05-11-2004, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyper Metal Sonic

Quote:

Originally Posted by The S

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (PS2) -Ya'd have to be a freak to not be even mildly excited about this one

I played the original Metal Gear Solid, and it was Okay. I'm not quite sure if a 3rd installment is worth foaming at the mouth like you seem to be alluding to though. And you call me the freak?

After seeing the opening video at the Tokyo game show, I don't know how anyone could want to play that game. It looked like the bastard child of Thunderball and Deer Hunter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The S

By the way...what makes you think that GBA DBZ game is going to be any better than the 40+ sh** DBZ games released throughout the past 20 years?

Cheap crap made to sell a TV show = every TV show based game ever made.....well almost anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperShredder84

Hmm, that's too bad that the E3 never existed back in the good old days of gaming. As far as I'm concerned, SNES is the best system ever made, followed closely by the NES which produced equally entertaining games. This new stuff may have the flashy graphics but not the addictiveness or the sheer gameplay quality of the older systems.

At least 99% of it is shovleware nowadays. People just got lazy. In the old days, the graphics sucked so you had to make the gameplay exciting to compensate. The sound quality sucked so you had to make the tunes themselves catchy and memorable so that it would stick in people's heads. The SNES was the perfect balance otf that. Graphics and Sound that was balanced by old school development and quality values, something today that most games lack.

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Originally Posted by Ai Takahashi

True that. That is downright horrible...Mortal Kombat?! COME ON!!! Cowboy Bebop will be ruined. Mega Man Collection better have EVERY Mega Man or else it's worthless.

It has Mega Man's 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8, Power Fighters, Power Battles, The Mega Man anime, two episodes of the US series, and Director Interviews.
Yuji Naka can take that excuse he made about Sonic Mega Collection and shove it up his a**. I quote, "We had to leave out Sonic CD because there just wasn't enough space ledt on the disc". Really Mr. Naka, do you think we're that stupid? If Mega Man can do it, then why the hell can't Sonic? The Answer, Naka just wanted to hold off so they could release the same crap on PS2 and include Sonic CD there (which they are) so everyone would re-buy it on PS2. Well, Naka can shove it. Woo-hoo for Capcom doing it right.
*Hugs Sonic CD and CDX*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ai Takahashi

We got ourself a hater!!!

and we all know what we do with haters don't we....

05-10-2004, 06:10 PM	#42
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	Everyone is. We'll learn in two days. Personally, I think the thing will have a cartridge slot and kill the GBA in time. They're just seperating them until they see if it's a hit. If so, they kill GBA, if not they kill DS and pretend it never happened, and go on with GBA until it's true suscessor. I hope the DS takes off because it's a new idea and the industry is pretty devoid of new ideas nowadays. I will not make another post because I've got to save the next one for something special.... __________________

05-10-2004, 06:36 PM	#44
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	The yays: Metroid Prime 2 Resident Evil 4 Spider-Man2(GTA style) The nays: The Cube needs more stuff... __________________ Stupendous Monster

05-10-2004, 09:52 PM	#51
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	My outlook on best/worst games of E3 (mind I haven't seen anything concrete yet, these are just speculation). BEST Mortal Kombat Deception (PS2, Xbox) As far as I can tell, this will be the BEST game at E3 Spider-Man 2 (Cube, PC, PS2, Xbox) -Free roaming, and plus all of the other SM games owned) THUG 2 (Cube, PS2, Xbox) -If it's better than THUG 1 (which kicked ass, this one will be right up there- Dragon Ball Z: Supersonic Warriors (GBA) -FINALLY! A good DBZ GBA fighter!- Transformers (PS2) -Seen demos, and it rocks. But why would it be @ E3 when it comes out tomorrow?- Cowboy Bebop (PS2) -YES! I've been waiting for this! Digimon Rumble Arena 2 (Cube, Xbox) Digimon World 4 (Cube, PS2, Xbox) -I still love Digimon. These should be interesting- Mega Man Anniversary Collection (Cube, GBA, PS2) -W00t! Old skool MM!- Street Fighter Anniversary Collection (PS2) -Would be better with SF1, but meh, whattya gonna do?- Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (PS2) -Ya'd have to be a freak to not be even mildly excited about this one- Kingdom Hearts II (PS2) -Drool- WORST Duel Masters: Sempai Legends (GBA) -Can you say crappy anime/card game/manga? Pro Fishing Challenge (Xbox) -Does anyone even play these fishing games?- SpongeBob: The Movie (Cube, GBA, PC, PS2, Xbox) -Probably the worst of the bunch crappy games, crappy license- Halo 2 (Xbox) -I'm probably the only one who thinks this, but the first game SUCKED BUTT!- __________________

05-10-2004, 05:05 PM	#41
Taloniss Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,819	I'm interested in the DS. But I'm curious has to how it's not going to compete with the GBA. I don't see how it couldn't, really.

05-10-2004, 06:29 PM	#43
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	DS is supposed to be the "third pilar" I'd really like to see how that works.

05-10-2004, 06:40 PM	#45
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	That's why I hope the big N pulls something big out of their hat this year. I've been praying to Shiggy every night for the last month. Please give Nintendo fans something to be excited about this year!

05-10-2004, 06:47 PM	#46
Toad64 Thug Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 54	To whoever asked a while back, the E3 show started ten years ago this year. As to what games were shown, I'm not sure off the top of my head but I'll see if I can find out. Ah, E3's almost here. I'm excited about everything Nintendo, and the new Kingdom Hearts II. Also, with the announcement that there should be a new TMNT game this October, Konami better be surprising us with a peak at the game! [edit by Mike: try not to double post] For anyone who's interested, I searched around through some Nintendo Power magazines and n-sider.com, and found some info on the E3's first show. Although everyone's saying E3 is ten this year, it seems the first show was in 1995. Sony was showing off the new Playstation, with its titles like Ridge Racer, Tekken, and Wipeout. Sega was showing off its new Saturn, which it surprised everyone by announcing it was out as of that day. Meanwhile, Nintendo was showing off the Virual Boy, and wouldn't show the Nintendo Ultra 64 until that November at the Shoshinkai Show. It's interesting to read the propaganda in the good ol' Nintendo Power magazine, as they were pretty sure they had nothing to worry about from Sony. "The big story wasn't what anyone expected. Far from conquering the video game world, the next generation games from Sony and Sega didn't even measure up to the quality of Nintendo's Super NES duo of Killer Instinct and Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest. Against the expensive 32-bit newcomers and their limited and mostly unfinished games, the SNES with its strong lineup of games from Nintendo and third party liscenses looked like a giant killer" It then goes on to list 20 or so games, of which I'd claim 5 I'd played and were great. Ah, Nintendo. I love you so, but man, were you not ready for what was about to happen...

05-10-2004, 07:30 PM	#47
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	Very informative, Toad64. Thank you so much for that.

05-10-2004, 07:32 PM	#48
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Yeah good work. I was 2 years off!

05-10-2004, 08:17 PM	#49
Demonfox38 Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 531	[rant] I've been waiting for E3 since the ending of the last one! Good gawd, a person needs to see if they fixed Star Fox Armada or not! Damn crappy screenshots! [/rant] Mmkay, I'm good. Here's to Star Fox Armada, Metroid Prime 2, another Zelda, and Paper Mario 2.

05-10-2004, 08:31 PM	#50
MW8979 Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 431	Hmm, that's too bad that the E3 never existed back in the good old days of gaming. As far as I'm concerned, SNES is the best system ever made, followed closely by the NES which produced equally entertaining games. This new stuff may have the flashy graphics but not the addictiveness or the sheer gameplay quality of the older systems.

05-10-2004, 10:30 PM	#54
Kid Icarus Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Angel Land Posts: 4,150	I'm looking forward to the Nintendo DS, the new GBA Zelda, Metroid Prime 2, Geist, Resident Evil 4, Killer 7, Wind Waker 2, and maybe Mario 128.

05-10-2004, 10:43 PM	#57
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	True that. That is downright horrible...Mortal Kombat?! COME ON!!! Cowboy Bebop will be ruined. Mega Man Collection better have EVERY Mega Man or else it's worthless.

05-10-2004, 11:20 PM	#58
MW8979 Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 431	Speaking of that... are all the NES games going to be redone in 16 bit?

05-10-2004, 11:42 PM	#59
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	No. They're just re-issues.