Loonatics - an action Looney Tunes cartoon

[ZariusTwo]

I was going to keep out of this thread, but seeing as how IceFlash took the time to post a constructive, fully understandable post (something dontebell can't even muster at the moment), I'll add WHY people are bashing this with good reason:

Kids W.B are hit and miss.

Teen Titans: A great show, but it DOES have it's bad days, Season Three was wasted on a pointless Brother Blood story arc and "Bethroned" (based on a classic comic strip storyline that saw the departure of Starfire and broke Dick Grayson emotionally) was wasted as a comedy episode.

Jackie Chan Adventures: Great show, but is inconsistent every so often in terms of SEASONS (Seasons Three and Five are horrendous)

The Batman: Porbably the best example of how BAD a revised version of an character can be, it blows chunks. Utterly.

Even X-Men: Evolution has been known to slip up.

So yeah, pardon us if we know what kind of track record Kids W.B has with thier shows.

[MC]

Zarius, he was talking about TV series and movies based on video games. They often recieve bad reviews but he still likes them (except for "House of the Dead!).

By the way Zarius, stop acting like a loser and shut up!

[IceFlash78]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I was going to keep out of this thread, but seeing as how IceFlash took the time to post a constructive, fully understandable post (something dontebell can't even muster at the moment), I'll add WHY people are bashing this with good reason:

So yeah, pardon us if we know what kind of track record Kids W.B has with thier shows.

I'm glad you respect my opinoin.... and now I understand where YOU're coming from... I haven't been in the "cartoon loop" recently, and I didn't know about most of the new and recent cartoons (Only recently did I find out about X-Men: Evolutions, for example.), so I didn't konw that Kids WB had a shaky track record... that's a valid reason to be concerned about a new show... Still, only time will tell if it sucks or not.

[Dontebell]

Originally Posted by MC

Zarius, he was talking about TV series and movies based on video games. They often recieve bad reviews but he still likes them (except for "House of the Dead!).

right,I like movie and series that based on video game(except House of the Dead)

[Peanut]

Good for you, but that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Any more arguements and I'm locking this thread.

[DrSpengler]

I suppose we should wait until it's out before we pass judgement.

Despite how WB is advertising it as an action cartoon, I'm sure it'll be a comedy just like all the other Looney Tunes cartoons over the years. Just maybe with a bit more action than Duck Dodgers.

To be honest, the premise of Tiny Toons doesn't sound that great ("What if the Looney Toons had TEENAGE counterparts that got into all sorts of TEENAGE adventures! It'll be just like Yo, Yogi!") and that show turned out all right. Granted, it fluxuated from awesome to crap on a pretty consistant basis. That includes animation and story. But Tiny Toons really set the standard for the Looney Toons cartoons (Well, maybe Taz-Mania set the standard, I think that show came first). Animainiacs, Taz-Mania and Duck Dodgers being the best of the bunch (not sure if Freakazoid qualifies as a Looney Toons show, but it was awesome too).

I can't imagine they'd dtray too far away from aproven formula.

I'll the give the show a fair trial-run. If it turns out to be as lame as Sylvester & Tweety Mysteries or the recent Looney Toons movies, then I'll give up on it.

Now for some questions. Are the updated Bugs and Lola going to be brother and sister? How can two mortal enemies, Wile E. Coyote and the Roadrunner, be on the same team? Will Speedy Gonzalez ever show up since he shares the exact same super power as the Roadrunner?

To be honest, If I were doing the show, I'd have made Wile E. Coyote and Taz badguys (I'm aware these are updated descendants of the originals, but I'm gonna call them by their more recognizeable names).

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by MC

Zarius, he was talking about TV series and movies based on video games. They often recieve bad reviews but he still likes them (except for "House of the Dead!).

...BUT that had nothing to do with the discussion

Really? What defines a "loser" in your eyes? To me, a loser is someone who can't come up with anything constructive and just likes to lay into someone without offering anything to the discussion....WOW, guess what? You're doing that right now

Before you decided to spray your mouth at the wrong time, I had dropped the discussion anyway and was actually talking with Ice on a few points he had brought up.

So congratulations, you've humiliated yourself.

Ignoring the real losers, let's get back on topic, Dr. Splenger, you're right about Tint Toons and Animanaicas, but also notice that those shows had some, if not all, of the same writers for the shows, now with every Loon Tunes spin-off, that is'nt as frequent anymore, and now that Dini has left, it's not going to progress any further than where we are now.

Duck Dodgers is already set in space, the fact THIS can't be anything else but set in the future AND in space already shows a lack of originality.

[DrSpengler]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Ignoring the real losers, let's get back on topic, Dr. Splenger, you're right about Tint Toons and Animanaicas, but also notice that those shows had some, if not all, of the same writers for the shows, now with every Loon Tunes spin-off, that is'nt as frequent anymore, and now that Dini has left, it's not going to progress any further than where we are now.

Duck Dodgers is already set in space, the fact THIS can't be anything else but set in the future AND in space already shows a lack of originality.

True. I'm not saying it's real original, making the Looney Toons super heroes. That's just another cartoon cliche used to revive a fading property. Remember Yogi Bear and the Galaxy Goof-Ups? Or Robonic Stooges? *shudder* Actually, it's probably best if you DON'T remember those shows.

Duck Dodgers, itself, is an update of a classic Looney Toons short (one of my favorites, but that's beside the point). So that, in a way, can be construed as "unoriginal".

With Looney Toons, it's not so much the plot (what little plot Looney Toons has) or the setting (the Looney Toons shorts always changed the setting for every short, as to implement new ideas and gags that revolve around said setting), it's the writing, the timing and the direction.

Duck Dodgers could have wound-up like Atomic Betty (perish the thought) but the effort was put into the show to make it entertaining on multiple levels, just like a Looney Toons cartoon should be.

Can't say I know who's writing this show. Duck Dodgers has been pretty good without Dini, and if they import some of that talent then I can't see it failing.

But don't quote me on anything. There's always a chance it'll suck. I was so hyped for Spike TV's Ren & Stimpy revival and good God that was awful.

[Dontebell]

on good day live Lola is name Lexi

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by dontebell

on good day live Lola is name Lexi

If you're not going to contribute constructivly to your own thread, stay the hell out of it

Originally Posted by DrSpengler

Duck Dodgers, itself, is an update of a classic Looney Toons short (one of my favorites, but that's beside the point). So that, in a way, can be construed as "unoriginal".

Indeed it is, but it's been handled well in the execution, and techincally, it is original in it's own way (Green Lantern crossover, different variations of comedy)

Duck Dodgers could have wound-up like Atomic Betty (perish the thought) but the effort was put into the show to make it entertaining on multiple levels, just like a Looney Toons cartoon should be.

Agreed.

Can't say I know who's writing this show. Duck Dodgers has been pretty good without Dini, and if they import some of that talent then I can't see it failing.

Dini was just an example I was using, as he was one of the finest writers on previous Warner comedies.

But don't quote me on anything. There's always a chance it'll suck. I was so hyped for Spike TV's Ren & Stimpy revival and good God that was awful.

That's exactly my point

1. Revivals like this have the tendency to suck

2. Kids W.B are hit and miss.

[Dontebell]

I'm just telling you what I herd about them,and it related to this thread.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by dontebell

I'm just telling you what I herd about them,and it related to this thread.

Oh right, I apologise

Lexa Bunny and Buzz Bunny? Pardon while I throw up...

[Dontebell]

here some more:
Daffy is name Duck
Wile e. is name Slick
Road Runner is name Roadster

[Barkworm]

To be honest, I kinda like the idea. The concept and the new names are very hard to swallow though.

[Dontebell]

Here more news about Loonatics and there super power.
http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=1788

[ZariusTwo]

Hmmm...I guess W.B are changing the names so as not to attach thier characters to a car wreck that will unfold before them


The promo suggests a dark and action-packed series that resembles The Batman more than it does Duck Dodgers. Design work is by Christian and Yvon Tremblay, who did visual effects duties on Swat Kats.

Well, that sinks it, "The Batman" blows, but hey, the guy who did the effects on SWAT KATS is working on it, that should give me a better reason to watch it for that alone.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Son of a b*tch. I am bailing out. That's the final straw. I'll just wait and watch TMNT on DVD, because there is no way in hell I'm ever getting up on a Saturday morning again. End of Story, final answer, case closed, fin, period.

[azure turtle]

Zarius, take it easy, please. Dontebell's just sharing more info. with us.

I don't like the redesigns, but the storyline is starting to sound interesting. A darker version of the Looney Tunes with some humor mixed in... It worked for the new TMNT 'toon, so maybe it'll work for the WB characters. Like IceFlash suggested, I think I'll wait for the first couple of episodes and give the Loonatics a chance. Who knows? It might end up being worthwhile.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by azure turtle

Zarius, take it easy, please. Dontebell's just sharing more info. with us.

I don't like the redesigns, but the storyline is starting to sound interesting. A darker version of the Looney Tunes with some humor mixed in... It worked for the new TMNT 'toon,

They were dark to begin with anyway, so they really don't count. At all.

It's being developed in the same vein as "The Batman", that show blows when Greg Wiseman is'nt taking pity on it, I'll address what I said before: Kids W.B are hit and/or miss.

This new show is just to detract people from the upcoming licensing and dubbing of Naruto, something that woild kill ALL of thier shows, what better way to steal all the hype than by raping our favourate chracterts?

[azure turtle]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

They were dark to begin with anyway, so they really don't count. At all.

Yeah, I understand when you take the comics into consideration. I was thinking in terms of the old 'toon.

It's being developed in the same vein as "The Batman", that show blows when Greg Wiseman is'nt taking pity on it, I'll address what I said before: Kids W.B are hit and/or miss.

This new show is just to detract people from the upcoming licensing and dubbing of Naruto, something that woild kill ALL of thier shows, what better way to steal all the hype than by raping our favourate chracterts?

I'm worried about the show being developed like "The Batman," which I'll agree isn't a very good show. I've watched only a couple of episodes, and didn't like it at all. However, I'm still willing to give Loonatics a chance, just to see what WB comes up with. Hit or miss is probably right, but for their sake, I hope it's a hit.

I had no idea that Naruto was being brought to US television. Interesting. I could see WB trying to steal the hype away. The company has been getting all kinds of coverage from mainstream media, so if this 'toon doesn't deliver, it'll be disastrous.