Ontario bans Pitbulls

Demented Utrom · 03-02-2005, 12:11 PM

Ontario is the first province or state in north america to ban pittbulls.People will have to put the dogs down.If they can't find a home for them out of province.Your thoughts.

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*Mecha Cow* · 03-02-2005, 12:26 PM

That sounds pretty stupid.

Any good reason for this?

Peanut · 03-02-2005, 12:27 PM

Because Pitbulls are stupid animals. This has been going on for a couple months now. I really don't care, I don't own or like dogs, especially Pitbulls. There have been a lot of attacks by those stupid animals over the last year. Including one killing a 3 year old. I'm glad they did this.

Demented Utrom · 03-02-2005, 12:28 PM

Ontario is always do something .People that got them banned were probably attacked them by before.Pitt bulls are pretty nasty dogs.I think their ill tempered dogs.

*Anarky* · 03-02-2005, 12:29 PM

But it's never the dog, it's the owners. If you don't treat a dog properly, then the dog will become a maniac. You can even get a poodle to be a killer.

But, of course, it's never the humans, it's always "the others".

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Ontario is always do something stupid.People that got them banned were probably attacked them by before.

Or they got scared due to excessive media coverage.

Demented Utrom · 03-02-2005, 12:32 PM

People made them nasty.I don't think some people should own animals.If they don't know how to take care of them.

*Anarky* · 03-02-2005, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Shredder utrom

People made them nasty.I don't think some people should own animals.If they don't know how to take care of them.

Exactly, and putting down Pitbulls won't be of much help either. I mean, then those people will get Dobermanns and whatnot, there's plenty of dog races left.

Is there any sources for this ban? I can only find the proposal of this ban and that it was "slammed as genocide"

Demented Utrom · 03-02-2005, 12:58 PM

Sun Media canada.They own some big cable company.

*Anarky* · 03-02-2005, 01:01 PM

Good, I'll edit your first post in order to include a source.

And the Pitbullfans were right, this is genocide.s

ZodiacAngel · 03-02-2005, 01:02 PM

This is sort of on topic. Not too long ago, a woman living in Chapel Arm, Newfoundland(I live in Newfoundland) was attacked by dogs of a mixed German Shephred and Husky breed.

Full story: http://stjohns.cbc.ca/regional/servl...l-arm-20050222

*Anarky* · 03-02-2005, 01:03 PM

Then you got to ban those two races too. And my neighbour was attacked by a border collie when she was five years old. Why not just ban them too? This is insane...

*damnhooligan* · 03-02-2005, 01:11 PM

I believe most of the problem lies with owner neglicence, whether its deliberate or not. Many countries have limitations and regulations when it comes to owning a 'dangerous breed' of dog. Some breeds, like Dogo Argentino were bred primarily for fighting and hunting jaguars and pumas. Even more common breeds like the American Pit Bull Terrier are naturally aggressive towards other animals, and if not handled and trained properly, will become aggressive towards humans.

I think instead of an outright ban, a better course of action would have been to require all present and future owners of Pit Bulls (and other dangerous breeds of dog) to attend and pass a training and obedience course, and to keep their dogs leashed and muzzled in all public places. Uncle Ben said it best: With great power comes great responsibility.

*raphael_is_cool* · 03-02-2005, 01:23 PM

Yeah. That's the best idea

*Voltron* · 03-02-2005, 02:55 PM

I agree with DH. Funny story:

My neighbors across the street bought a bouvier about a decade ago. Sure, it started out cute enough, but eventually it became this friggin behemoth as time went on. Their kid could literally ride it like a horse.

Anyway, they sent the dog to obedience school since it would attack anything that seemed afraid of it. The dog passed the class after about three months and for some reason the school held a graduation ceremony (no lie.) Since I was their kid's friend at the time, they invited me to witness their dog recieve it's diploma (I couldn't believe it.)

So there we were, watching a row of dogs obey commands and what not, and my hyper-active friend would not shut up and sit still. He'd swear, insult people in the crowd, and was just being a pain in the ass in general. Long story short, he got kicked out of the graduation ceremony for not being obedient.

So, yeah, we need courses for people, too.

愛 · 03-02-2005, 03:02 PM

Yeah, that was a pretty funny story that you told me. I think I need an obedience school, what with my unnecessary comments as we travel around.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 03-02-2005, 04:39 PM

I don't like dogs either, but making the owners get their pitbulls killed if they already own one is sick and communist.

*kyabetsu* · 03-02-2005, 05:49 PM

okay... first off... when you read that article...

Anyone who's already got a pit bull just has to have them FIXED... not deported or killed. Puppies born 90 days after the law 'begins' will need new homes or to be put down.

but anything born 90 days after the ban was passed? would have to have been bred about a MONTH AFTER the ban was passed. Normal gestation in pit bulls is 63 days. So you don't wanna kill puppies? don't breed your dog-- infact-- get it fixed!

having said that.....

banning specific breeds is ridiculous. YES pit bulls have been bred to the point where the dogs are AGRESSIVE-- but there's plenty of other breeds like that. Banning pit bulls would have to be part of a large-scale "banning all dangerous animals" initiative.... which since Canada has bears NATURALLY... it's kinda silly.

DH has the right of it, owning large breeds should be a licensing issue. You license the dog, and you're PERSONALLY responsible for the animal's actions. It mauls a baby? You're facing man-slaughter charges. If people TRULY believe that "Cuddles" the 500 pound Rottweiller is not a threat, they'd go ahead and license him.

Licensing should involve compulsory obedience training and PET CARE courses. And the License should be transferrable upon sale of the animal. If you're willing to OWN a dog that weighs as much as you do... you've got to be responsible for it. No matter WHAT the breed.

Peanut · 03-02-2005, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ZodiacAngel

This is sort of on topic. Not too long ago, a woman living in Chapel Arm, Newfoundland(I live in Newfoundland) was attacked by dogs of a mixed German Shephred and Husky breed.

You live in Newfoundland!?! That's awesome! I was born there, and have over half my family still living there. I hardly ever meet other Newfie's online.

ZodiacAngel · 03-02-2005, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

You live in Newfoundland!?! That's awesome! I was born there, and have over half my family still living there. I hardly ever meet other Newfie's online.

Oh cool! I hardly meet other Newfies online as well, so it's so refreshing to meet you!

What part of Newfoundland were you born in?

Peanut · 03-02-2005, 08:22 PM

I was born in Gander, and I lived in Lewisport for awhile, which is where my dad is from. I was actually just back there summer before last, and I think I'm going back this summer. Which part of the rock are you from?

03-02-2005, 12:11 PM	#1
Demented Utrom Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 474	Ontario bans Pitbulls Ontario is the first province or state in north america to ban pittbulls.People will have to put the dogs down.If they can't find a home for them out of province.Your thoughts. SOURCE

03-02-2005, 12:26 PM	#2
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	That sounds pretty stupid. Any good reason for this? __________________

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Anarky Outlaw Hero Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tannhauser Gate Posts: 4,867	Good, I'll edit your first post in order to include a source. And the Pitbullfans were right, this is genocide.s __________________ Because it's... I dunno... brutal.

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ZodiacAngel Foot Soldier Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Sanctuary Posts: 104	This is sort of on topic. Not too long ago, a woman living in Chapel Arm, Newfoundland(I live in Newfoundland) was attacked by dogs of a mixed German Shephred and Husky breed. Full story: http://stjohns.cbc.ca/regional/servl...l-arm-20050222 __________________ Piccolo: We can't give up just because things aren't the way we want them to be ~History is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.~

03-02-2005, 01:03 PM	#11
Anarky Outlaw Hero Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tannhauser Gate Posts: 4,867	Then you got to ban those two races too. And my neighbour was attacked by a border collie when she was five years old. Why not just ban them too? This is insane... __________________ Because it's... I dunno... brutal.

03-02-2005, 12:27 PM	#3
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Because Pitbulls are stupid animals. This has been going on for a couple months now. I really don't care, I don't own or like dogs, especially Pitbulls. There have been a lot of attacks by those stupid animals over the last year. Including one killing a 3 year old. I'm glad they did this.

03-02-2005, 12:28 PM	#4
Demented Utrom Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 474	Ontario is always do something .People that got them banned were probably attacked them by before.Pitt bulls are pretty nasty dogs.I think their ill tempered dogs.

03-02-2005, 12:32 PM	#6
Demented Utrom Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 474	People made them nasty.I don't think some people should own animals.If they don't know how to take care of them.

03-02-2005, 12:58 PM	#8
Demented Utrom Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 474	Sun Media canada.They own some big cable company.

03-02-2005, 01:11 PM	#12
damnhooligan Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Dorksville, USA Posts: 1,745	I believe most of the problem lies with owner neglicence, whether its deliberate or not. Many countries have limitations and regulations when it comes to owning a 'dangerous breed' of dog. Some breeds, like Dogo Argentino were bred primarily for fighting and hunting jaguars and pumas. Even more common breeds like the American Pit Bull Terrier are naturally aggressive towards other animals, and if not handled and trained properly, will become aggressive towards humans. I think instead of an outright ban, a better course of action would have been to require all present and future owners of Pit Bulls (and other dangerous breeds of dog) to attend and pass a training and obedience course, and to keep their dogs leashed and muzzled in all public places. Uncle Ben said it best: With great power comes great responsibility. __________________

03-02-2005, 01:23 PM	#13
raphael_is_cool Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: England Posts: 2,151	Yeah. That's the best idea

03-02-2005, 02:55 PM	#14
Voltron Handsomest Boy in School Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Realm of SJW Posts: 4,642	I agree with DH. Funny story: My neighbors across the street bought a bouvier about a decade ago. Sure, it started out cute enough, but eventually it became this friggin behemoth as time went on. Their kid could literally ride it like a horse. Anyway, they sent the dog to obedience school since it would attack anything that seemed afraid of it. The dog passed the class after about three months and for some reason the school held a graduation ceremony (no lie.) Since I was their kid's friend at the time, they invited me to witness their dog recieve it's diploma (I couldn't believe it.) So there we were, watching a row of dogs obey commands and what not, and my hyper-active friend would not shut up and sit still. He'd swear, insult people in the crowd, and was just being a pain in the ass in general. Long story short, he got kicked out of the graduation ceremony for not being obedient. So, yeah, we need courses for people, too. __________________ I AM FOR ACTUAL! . . . and the White Savior. . . and the Right Hand of God. . .

03-02-2005, 03:02 PM	#15
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	Yeah, that was a pretty funny story that you told me. I think I need an obedience school, what with my unnecessary comments as we travel around.

03-02-2005, 04:39 PM	#16
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	I don't like dogs either, but making the owners get their pitbulls killed if they already own one is sick and communist. __________________

03-02-2005, 05:49 PM	#17
kyabetsu Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: under my hat Posts: 4,393	okay... first off... when you read that article... Anyone who's already got a pit bull just has to have them FIXED... not deported or killed. Puppies born 90 days after the law 'begins' will need new homes or to be put down. but anything born 90 days after the ban was passed? would have to have been bred about a MONTH AFTER the ban was passed. Normal gestation in pit bulls is 63 days. So you don't wanna kill puppies? don't breed your dog-- infact-- get it fixed! having said that..... banning specific breeds is ridiculous. YES pit bulls have been bred to the point where the dogs are AGRESSIVE-- but there's plenty of other breeds like that. Banning pit bulls would have to be part of a large-scale "banning all dangerous animals" initiative.... which since Canada has bears NATURALLY... it's kinda silly. DH has the right of it, owning large breeds should be a licensing issue. You license the dog, and you're PERSONALLY responsible for the animal's actions. It mauls a baby? You're facing man-slaughter charges. If people TRULY believe that "Cuddles" the 500 pound Rottweiller is not a threat, they'd go ahead and license him. Licensing should involve compulsory obedience training and PET CARE courses. And the License should be transferrable upon sale of the animal. If you're willing to OWN a dog that weighs as much as you do... you've got to be responsible for it. No matter WHAT the breed.

03-02-2005, 08:22 PM	#20
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	I was born in Gander, and I lived in Lewisport for awhile, which is where my dad is from. I was actually just back there summer before last, and I think I'm going back this summer. Which part of the rock are you from?