Pot Illegal in Cali

*Spitfire* · 06-07-2005, 12:08 AM

It was legal for people who needed it for medcial reasons but I guess not anymore

WASHINGTON - People who smoke marijuana because their doctors recommend it to ease pain can be prosecuted for violating federal drug laws, the Supreme Court ruled Monday, overriding medical marijuana statutes in 10 states.

The court's 6-3 decision was filled with sympathy for two seriously ill California women who brought the case, but the majority agreed that federal agents may arrest even sick people who use the drug as well as the people who grow pot for them.

Justice John Paul Stevens, an 85-year-old cancer survivor, said the court was not passing judgment on the potential medical benefits of marijuana, and he noted "the troubling facts" in the case. However, he said the Constitution allows federal regulation of homegrown marijuana as interstate commerce.

The Bush administration has taken a hard stand against state medical marijuana laws, but it was unclear how it would respond to the new prosecutorial power. Justice Department spokesman John Nowacki would not say whether prosecutors would pursue cases against individual users.

In a dissent, Justice Sandra Day O'Connor said the court's "overreaching stifles an express choice by some states, concerned for the lives and liberties of their people, to regulate medical marijuana differently."

The women who brought the case expressed defiance.

"I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing. I don't really have a choice but to, because if I stop using cannabis, I would die," said Angel Raich of Oakland, Calif., who suffers from ailments including scoliosis, a brain tumor, chronic nausea, fatigue and pain. She says she smokes marijuana every few hours.

Diane Monson, an accountant who lives near Oroville, Calif., has degenerative spine disease and grows her own marijuana plants. "I'm going to have to be prepared to be arrested," she said.

The ruling does not strike down California's law, or similar ones in Alaska, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Vermont and Washington state. Besides those states, Arizona permits marijuana prescriptions but has never instituted a program to support them. In Maryland, people accused of violating state possession laws can present evidence to a judge of a medicinal use of the drug; the judge could then lower the punishment to a $100 fine.

However, Monday's ruling may hurt efforts to pass laws in other states because the federal government's prosecution authority trumps states' wishes.

John Walters, director of national drug control policy, defended the government's ban. "Science and research have not determined that smoking marijuana is safe or effective," he said.

California's law, passed by voters in 1996, allows people to grow, smoke or obtain marijuana for medical needs with a doctor's recommendation. Monson and Raich contend that traditional medicines do not provide the relief that marijuana does.

California has been the battleground state for medical marijuana. In 2001, the Supreme Court ruled in a California case that the federal government could prosecute distributors despite their claim that the activity was protected by medical necessity.

Two years later the justices rejected a Bush administration appeal that sought power to punish doctors for recommending the drug to sick patients. That case, too, was from California.

California Attorney General Bill Lockyer said Monday that "people shouldn't panic ... there aren't going to be many changes."

Local and state officers handle nearly all marijuana prosecutions and must still follow any state laws that protect patients.

"I think it would look bad if the federal government focused its prosecution authority on a sick person," said Daniel Abrahamson, with the Drug Policy Alliance. "Individual patients growing for their own purposes have not been the targets of the federal authorities. We hope that it stays that way."

The government has arrested more than 60 people in medical marijuana raids since September 2001, according to the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws.

Congress could be the next stop for the debate.

While there are other legal options for patients, Stevens wrote, "perhaps even more important than these legal avenues is the democratic process, in which the voices of voters allied with these (California women) may one day be heard in the halls of Congress."

Still, even supporters say it is unlikely Congress would pass a law allowing physicians to prescribe marijuana.

O'Connor was joined in her dissent by two other states' rights advocates: Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist and Justice Clarence Thomas. While conservatives may not necessarily support medical marijuana, they have pushed to broaden states' rights in recent years.

O'Connor, who like Rehnquist has had cancer, said she would have opposed California's medical marijuana law if she were a voter or a legislator. But she said the court was overreaching to endorse "making it a federal crime to grow small amounts of marijuana in one's own home for one's own medicinal use."

Thomas said the ruling was so broad "the federal government may now regulate quilting bees, clothes drives and potluck suppers throughout the 50 states."

The case was hatched when Monson's backyard crop of six marijuana plants was seized by federal agents in 2002. She and Raich sued then-U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft, asking for a court order letting them smoke, grow or obtain marijuana without fear of arrest, home raids or other intrusion by federal authorities.

They claimed protection under the Constitution, which says Congress may pass laws regulating a state's economic activity so long as it involves "interstate commerce" that crosses state borders.

http://www.comcast.net/news/index.js...07/150104.html

Eh I dont personally care but I do have alota friends who smoke pot o_O Then again its not like it being illegal will stop anyone. Poor Santa Cruz half that town is pot smokeing hippies with medcial cards. San Fran too

**GK Punk** · 06-07-2005, 03:06 AM

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Poor Santa Cruz half that town is pot smokeing hippies with medcial cards. San Fran too

Haha how true. God bless downtown Santa Cruz.

*Anarky* · 06-07-2005, 06:38 AM

Poor sods, poor freedom...

*Voltron* · 06-07-2005, 10:51 AM

What gets me is that marijuana is illegal for medicinal use, but twice a week I stop by a pharmacy where a lady hands me a bottle of oxycodone for my aunt who has been crippled by an odd form of arthritis. I go to the window, tell them my name is Rosemary, and BAM! Free heroin...

What is the world coming to?

*Anarky* · 06-07-2005, 11:27 AM

Actually your story is sort of true, Voltron, even in overruled Switzerland. I have been using eyedrops against my hayfever attacks last year. The monodoses lasted until like a month back. So I went to a pharmacy and asked them for the stuff. They said that it needed a prescription and I just said that the doctor gave tehm to me. No problem, I walked out with my eyedrops and 40 bucks less.

That's what I don't get. You can easily get those prescription medications without a problem, bu tpot is illegal.

~~BartAllen~~ · 06-08-2005, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Anarky

Actually your story is sort of true, Voltron, even in overruled Switzerland. I have been using eyedrops against my hayfever attacks last year. The monodoses lasted until like a month back. So I went to a pharmacy and asked them for the stuff. They said that it needed a prescription and I just said that the doctor gave tehm to me. No problem, I walked out with my eyedrops and 40 bucks less.

That's what I don't get. You can easily get those prescription medications without a problem, bu tpot is illegal.

wow. i dont know how it works over seas, but here in america. i once needed to get some asthma medicine for my mom. i lost the presciption paper. and i had to wait 45 minutes to get the doctors ok. and then i had to get a new prescription paper so that i could give that to the phramacist. to get the med.

*Katie* · 06-08-2005, 08:48 AM

see, they make the marijuana itself illegal, but they have a perscription drug made from the same chemical derivitive in marijuana that is legal...think they (the drug companies) want to make some money? I have a friend that died of cancer not long ago. she smoked marijuana b/c it made her feel better and gave her her appetite back while she was on chemo. I was glad she was able to get it to help her

Congress still has to debate the courts ruling. We'll see where it goes...

06-07-2005, 12:08 AM	#1
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	Pot Illegal in Cali It was legal for people who needed it for medcial reasons but I guess not anymore WASHINGTON - People who smoke marijuana because their doctors recommend it to ease pain can be prosecuted for violating federal drug laws, the Supreme Court ruled Monday, overriding medical marijuana statutes in 10 states. The court's 6-3 decision was filled with sympathy for two seriously ill California women who brought the case, but the majority agreed that federal agents may arrest even sick people who use the drug as well as the people who grow pot for them. Justice John Paul Stevens, an 85-year-old cancer survivor, said the court was not passing judgment on the potential medical benefits of marijuana, and he noted "the troubling facts" in the case. However, he said the Constitution allows federal regulation of homegrown marijuana as interstate commerce. The Bush administration has taken a hard stand against state medical marijuana laws, but it was unclear how it would respond to the new prosecutorial power. Justice Department spokesman John Nowacki would not say whether prosecutors would pursue cases against individual users. In a dissent, Justice Sandra Day O'Connor said the court's "overreaching stifles an express choice by some states, concerned for the lives and liberties of their people, to regulate medical marijuana differently." The women who brought the case expressed defiance. "I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing. I don't really have a choice but to, because if I stop using cannabis, I would die," said Angel Raich of Oakland, Calif., who suffers from ailments including scoliosis, a brain tumor, chronic nausea, fatigue and pain. She says she smokes marijuana every few hours. Diane Monson, an accountant who lives near Oroville, Calif., has degenerative spine disease and grows her own marijuana plants. "I'm going to have to be prepared to be arrested," she said. The ruling does not strike down California's law, or similar ones in Alaska, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Vermont and Washington state. Besides those states, Arizona permits marijuana prescriptions but has never instituted a program to support them. In Maryland, people accused of violating state possession laws can present evidence to a judge of a medicinal use of the drug; the judge could then lower the punishment to a $100 fine. However, Monday's ruling may hurt efforts to pass laws in other states because the federal government's prosecution authority trumps states' wishes. John Walters, director of national drug control policy, defended the government's ban. "Science and research have not determined that smoking marijuana is safe or effective," he said. California's law, passed by voters in 1996, allows people to grow, smoke or obtain marijuana for medical needs with a doctor's recommendation. Monson and Raich contend that traditional medicines do not provide the relief that marijuana does. California has been the battleground state for medical marijuana. In 2001, the Supreme Court ruled in a California case that the federal government could prosecute distributors despite their claim that the activity was protected by medical necessity. Two years later the justices rejected a Bush administration appeal that sought power to punish doctors for recommending the drug to sick patients. That case, too, was from California. California Attorney General Bill Lockyer said Monday that "people shouldn't panic ... there aren't going to be many changes." Local and state officers handle nearly all marijuana prosecutions and must still follow any state laws that protect patients. "I think it would look bad if the federal government focused its prosecution authority on a sick person," said Daniel Abrahamson, with the Drug Policy Alliance. "Individual patients growing for their own purposes have not been the targets of the federal authorities. We hope that it stays that way." The government has arrested more than 60 people in medical marijuana raids since September 2001, according to the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws. Congress could be the next stop for the debate. While there are other legal options for patients, Stevens wrote, "perhaps even more important than these legal avenues is the democratic process, in which the voices of voters allied with these (California women) may one day be heard in the halls of Congress." Still, even supporters say it is unlikely Congress would pass a law allowing physicians to prescribe marijuana. O'Connor was joined in her dissent by two other states' rights advocates: Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist and Justice Clarence Thomas. While conservatives may not necessarily support medical marijuana, they have pushed to broaden states' rights in recent years. O'Connor, who like Rehnquist has had cancer, said she would have opposed California's medical marijuana law if she were a voter or a legislator. But she said the court was overreaching to endorse "making it a federal crime to grow small amounts of marijuana in one's own home for one's own medicinal use." Thomas said the ruling was so broad "the federal government may now regulate quilting bees, clothes drives and potluck suppers throughout the 50 states." The case was hatched when Monson's backyard crop of six marijuana plants was seized by federal agents in 2002. She and Raich sued then-U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft, asking for a court order letting them smoke, grow or obtain marijuana without fear of arrest, home raids or other intrusion by federal authorities. They claimed protection under the Constitution, which says Congress may pass laws regulating a state's economic activity so long as it involves "interstate commerce" that crosses state borders. http://www.comcast.net/news/index.js...07/150104.html Eh I dont personally care but I do have alota friends who smoke pot o_O Then again its not like it being illegal will stop anyone. Poor Santa Cruz half that town is pot smokeing hippies with medcial cards. San Fran too __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

06-07-2005, 06:38 AM	#3
Anarky Outlaw Hero Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tannhauser Gate Posts: 4,867	Poor sods, poor freedom... __________________ Because it's... I dunno... brutal.

06-07-2005, 10:51 AM	#4
Voltron Handsomest Boy in School Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Realm of SJW Posts: 4,642	What gets me is that marijuana is illegal for medicinal use, but twice a week I stop by a pharmacy where a lady hands me a bottle of oxycodone for my aunt who has been crippled by an odd form of arthritis. I go to the window, tell them my name is Rosemary, and BAM! Free heroin... What is the world coming to? __________________ I AM FOR ACTUAL! . . . and the White Savior. . . and the Right Hand of God. . .

06-07-2005, 11:27 AM	#5
Anarky Outlaw Hero Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tannhauser Gate Posts: 4,867	Actually your story is sort of true, Voltron, even in overruled Switzerland. I have been using eyedrops against my hayfever attacks last year. The monodoses lasted until like a month back. So I went to a pharmacy and asked them for the stuff. They said that it needed a prescription and I just said that the doctor gave tehm to me. No problem, I walked out with my eyedrops and 40 bucks less. That's what I don't get. You can easily get those prescription medications without a problem, bu tpot is illegal.

06-08-2005, 08:48 AM	#7
Katie Just...way too serious. Join Date: May 2005 Location: purgatory Posts: 3,519	see, they make the marijuana itself illegal, but they have a perscription drug made from the same chemical derivitive in marijuana that is legal...think they (the drug companies) want to make some money? I have a friend that died of cancer not long ago. she smoked marijuana b/c it made her feel better and gave her her appetite back while she was on chemo. I was glad she was able to get it to help her Congress still has to debate the courts ruling. We'll see where it goes...