Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children Leaked - Page 2

The Clerk · 09-14-2005, 07:35 PM

Hey, Ai, could you PM me the link to it?

*Mecha Cow* · 09-15-2005, 10:34 AM

I'm starting to get scared. Really really scared. EVERYONE is talking about this movie and everyone is ranting about how great it was. It's like arriving in a some eerie ghost time where everyone but you is a zombie.

Nope, I didn't like it. I thought it was pretty bad actually. While I'm not very fond of Square or Final Fantasy, I did give this movie an honest chance and actually expected it to be pretty good, but I guess I should have known better.

I won't bother you with a summary of the things that bothered me, but let's just say I gave up on the 'movie' around the time the entire cast of FFVII popped up out of nowhere for no reason at all.

I think 'Final Fantasy VII: Check Out How Cool Your Favorite Characters Look In Shiny CG' would have been a better title. Oh well, at least it looked pretty.

Let the flames begin.

愛 · 09-15-2005, 10:36 AM

Yeah, but you don't like anything, so that doesn't say much.

*Mecha Cow* · 09-15-2005, 10:39 AM

...

Nor does your opinion considering you go crazy over anything that comes out of Japan. Since we're going to generalise.

*Anarky* · 09-15-2005, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecha Cow

I'm starting to get scared. Really really scared. EVERYONE is talking about this movie and everyone is ranting about how great it was. It's like arriving in a some eerie ghost time where everyone but you is a zombie.

Nope, I didn't like it. I thought it was pretty bad actually. While I'm not very fond of Square or Final Fantasy, I did give this movie an honest chance and actually expected it to be pretty good, but I guess I should have known better.

I won't bother you with a summary of the things that bothered me, but let's just say I gave up on the 'movie' around the time the entire cast of FFVII popped up out of nowhere for no reason at all.

I think 'Final Fantasy VII: Check Out How Cool Your Favorite Characters Look In Shiny CG' would have been a better title. Oh well, at least it looked pretty.

Let the flames begin.

Of course, there are a couple of plotholes and some things that don't quite make sense, but all in all it was a good action movie. But which movie doesn't have plotholes?

I don't like FF either, actually I never got the point in the whole RPG-thing, but I enjoyed this movie for the action and the great CGI.

愛 · 09-15-2005, 10:42 AM

Not true. I actually don't like a lot that comes from Japan. Anime sucks these days, I'm not a fan of their food at all, and their music has really started to go downhill.

When was the last time you said you liked something? Every time people start to say something good, it just feels like you need to be the person who says otherwise. You're even saying that you hate the new Zelda that's coming out. What the hell is that? You can't hate Zelda! I just don't understand your way of thinking, Mecha. I really don't. What were you looking for in this movie, anyway? Tell me. You can't just walk into a thread and say you didn't like it and not give a legitimate reason. You lose all your credibility that way.

EDIT: Alright, I'm sorry I went over the top. It's just FFVII is an unbelievable game to me, and it's upsetting. Anyway, please explain why you didn't like it.

**Barkworm** · 09-15-2005, 10:42 AM

Come on Ai, be nice! *slap*
I still haven't watched it and I probably won't do so until I have played through the game again.
BUUUUT I watched the "FFVII Last Order" OVA which rocked my soul. Did anyone else watch that one? It's basically an Anime version of what happened to Cloud, Zack, Tifa and Sephiroth in Nibelheim.

*ZariusTwo* · 09-15-2005, 10:45 AM

As a franchise, Final Fantasy is hopelessly overrated

That being said, the movie was classy, emotional, and used much more flexiable CGI than any film I've seen attempted with the format in a while, shove your Robots and Incredibles, this is what people should be using to define CGI, in format and story. What makes it work is the fact its' set in an F.F universe the fanbase has played, and has a connection towards.

*Mecha Cow* · 09-15-2005, 11:34 AM

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When was the last time you said you liked something? Every time people start to say something good, it just feels like you need to be the person who says otherwise. You're even saying that you hate the new Zelda that's coming out. What the hell is that? You can't hate Zelda! I just don't understand your way of thinking, Mecha. I really don't. What were you looking for in this movie, anyway? Tell me.

Bull. I don't appreciate you making me sound like someone who rains on other's parades for fun, I don't appreciate it at all. My opinions have as much value as yours, whether you agree with them or not. The least you can do is show me the same damn respect I show you. I don't go around calling you an idiot based on what you think and what you believe in.

I consider myself an artist, and I am extremely critical of myself and the things I enjoy. I see video games and movies as forms of art and good art is made with love and care, which makes it something special, and gives it a soul. Something like the new Zelda that tries desparately to appeal to a 'cool' crowd doesn't feel good to me at all, almost disgusts me even. Certainly when it does this at the expense of the things that once made it so special, which I feel is the case with Twilight Princess. I've mentioned this many times before, and was patronised and ridiculed for it. Whatever.

This is also what bothers me about Advent Children (And while we're at it, most recent video games and movies. Unless you want to argue how great all these GTA clones and summer 'blockbusters' are). The writers could have made an effort to make an original and exciting movie. Instead, they turned it into what I feel was a cheap attempt at cashing in on an 8-year old game with pointless cameos and overdone battles. I'm sure it's great to fans of the game, but I hardly feel it can be called an actual movie.

I have standards. I expect people to make an effort, just like I do and would. But most people take the easy way out and don't. This is why 'I don't like anything'. Maybe I could lower my standards and just go with the flow. But unlike most of the entertainment world, I refuse to change who I am just to please others.

I'm not asking you to understand my way of thinking. But it would be nice if you would realise that there are people who think differently than you do, and that deserve the same respect they give you.

愛 · 09-15-2005, 11:39 AM

Okay, I gotcha. I'm sorry I made you angry. I didn't really mean to disrespect you...well, I did at first, but I was wrong to do so. I see where you're coming from, but you really do have some high standards.

Serp · 09-15-2005, 12:44 PM

When is this comeing out to DVD or what ever. I want to see this but I want to see it..............The legal way.

愛 · 09-15-2005, 12:47 PM

I heard it's coming out here on DVD....January 3rd. It's coming out for PSP really soon, though.

*Mecha Cow* · 09-15-2005, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Okay, I gotcha. I'm sorry I made you angry. I didn't really mean to disrespect you...well, I did at first, but I was wrong to do so. I see where you're coming from, but you really do have some high standards.

It's cool. And yes I do.

*Spitfire* · 09-15-2005, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 高橋愛

I heard it's coming out here on DVD....January 3rd. It's coming out for PSP really soon, though.

Well it's obvious why they did that. PSP movies cost more and they can sell i this Christmas for PSP only. I'm not stupid though and I'm waiting for the DVD.

Peanut · 09-15-2005, 08:03 PM

I can understand why you didn't like it, Mecha. I'm not a fan of FF at ALL. I think that's pretty well documented on these forums. The games generally bore me to tears, mostly because I'm a "gameplay first, story later" kind of guy. I thought the movie was awesome though. Sure, the plot might be lacking in certain areas, but the action was great. I didn't watch this movie hoping to have my thoughts provoked, but instead to witness some great action, which is exactly what I got.

That being said, I can totally see where you're coming from.

*Dane E5R* · 09-19-2005, 04:44 AM

Coulda sworn I responded to this...
Anyway, FFVII is my second all time favorite video game, so naturally I had high hopes for this, and I wasn't disappointed. At all. I WILL be owning this unbelievable masterpiece when it hits our shores. This is the movie The Spirits Within should've been. That being said...
Anyone know where I can find some english subtitles for Last Order?

*Brodie* · 09-19-2005, 07:38 AM

The fact that Zarius liked it means that anyone who didnt dig it is wrong.

Joking....

IceFlash78 · 09-19-2005, 05:04 PM

Send me the link, please! I've heard great things about this.

Do anybody perform their limit breaks?

*Dane E5R* · 09-19-2005, 07:29 PM

I noticed Tifa and Cloud did. I think they're the only two, though. They're very casually slipped in, though, in the same fashion of the Street Fighter II animated movie, where they seem more "realistic." So don't be expectin' Cloud to stand there and light up for a minute.

**Barkworm** · 10-18-2005, 04:07 AM

I finally watched it!
And you know what? I have to agree with Mecha in some points. Of course it was totally sweet to see our favourite characters back in action (Cloud, Sephiroth and Vincent were so badass, it wasn't even funny) but I'm really surprised that people like Anarky and Peanut who didn't like/play the game actually enjoyed it. Because as far as story is concerned (if there even was any) this movie was a major bummer. FFVII was famous for one of the best storys in video game history and "Advent Children" was basically two hours of fight scenes, fight scenes and even more fight scenes. Oh and Cait Sith should die a horrible death.
Bottom line: To me this movie is two hours of fanboy service. Hence I loved it. I can easily see how someone who didn't play the game could dislike it though.

09-14-2005, 07:35 PM	#21
The Clerk Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 818	Hey, Ai, could you PM me the link to it? __________________

09-15-2005, 10:34 AM	#22
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	I'm starting to get scared. Really really scared. EVERYONE is talking about this movie and everyone is ranting about how great it was. It's like arriving in a some eerie ghost time where everyone but you is a zombie. Nope, I didn't like it. I thought it was pretty bad actually. While I'm not very fond of Square or Final Fantasy, I did give this movie an honest chance and actually expected it to be pretty good, but I guess I should have known better. I won't bother you with a summary of the things that bothered me, but let's just say I gave up on the 'movie' around the time the entire cast of FFVII popped up out of nowhere for no reason at all. I think 'Final Fantasy VII: Check Out How Cool Your Favorite Characters Look In Shiny CG' would have been a better title. Oh well, at least it looked pretty. Let the flames begin. __________________

09-15-2005, 10:39 AM	#24
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	... Nor does your opinion considering you go crazy over anything that comes out of Japan. Since we're going to generalise. __________________

09-15-2005, 10:42 AM	#27
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,759	Come on Ai, be nice! slap I still haven't watched it and I probably won't do so until I have played through the game again. BUUUUT I watched the "FFVII Last Order" OVA which rocked my soul. Did anyone else watch that one? It's basically an Anime version of what happened to Cloud, Zack, Tifa and Sephiroth in Nibelheim. __________________ Make ****, not kill!

09-15-2005, 10:45 AM	#28
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,501	As a franchise, Final Fantasy is hopelessly overrated That being said, the movie was classy, emotional, and used much more flexiable CGI than any film I've seen attempted with the format in a while, shove your Robots and Incredibles, this is what people should be using to define CGI, in format and story. What makes it work is the fact its' set in an F.F universe the fanbase has played, and has a connection towards. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

09-15-2005, 10:36 AM	#23
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	Yeah, but you don't like anything, so that doesn't say much.

09-15-2005, 11:39 AM	#30
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	Okay, I gotcha. I'm sorry I made you angry. I didn't really mean to disrespect you...well, I did at first, but I was wrong to do so. I see where you're coming from, but you really do have some high standards.

09-15-2005, 12:44 PM	#31
Serp Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 362	When is this comeing out to DVD or what ever. I want to see this but I want to see it..............The legal way.

09-15-2005, 12:47 PM	#32
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	I heard it's coming out here on DVD....January 3rd. It's coming out for PSP really soon, though.

09-15-2005, 08:03 PM	#35
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	I can understand why you didn't like it, Mecha. I'm not a fan of FF at ALL. I think that's pretty well documented on these forums. The games generally bore me to tears, mostly because I'm a "gameplay first, story later" kind of guy. I thought the movie was awesome though. Sure, the plot might be lacking in certain areas, but the action was great. I didn't watch this movie hoping to have my thoughts provoked, but instead to witness some great action, which is exactly what I got. That being said, I can totally see where you're coming from.

09-19-2005, 04:44 AM	#36
Dane E5R Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Topeka, Kansas Posts: 1,602	Coulda sworn I responded to this... Anyway, FFVII is my second all time favorite video game, so naturally I had high hopes for this, and I wasn't disappointed. At all. I WILL be owning this unbelievable masterpiece when it hits our shores. This is the movie The Spirits Within should've been. That being said... Anyone know where I can find some english subtitles for Last Order? __________________ http://www.luckyusshow.com

09-19-2005, 07:38 AM	#37
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	The fact that Zarius liked it means that anyone who didnt dig it is wrong. Joking.... __________________ Stupendous Monster

09-19-2005, 05:04 PM	#38
IceFlash78 Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 302	Send me the link, please! I've heard great things about this. Do anybody perform their limit breaks?

09-19-2005, 07:29 PM	#39
Dane E5R Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Topeka, Kansas Posts: 1,602	I noticed Tifa and Cloud did. I think they're the only two, though. They're very casually slipped in, though, in the same fashion of the Street Fighter II animated movie, where they seem more "realistic." So don't be expectin' Cloud to stand there and light up for a minute. __________________ http://www.luckyusshow.com

10-18-2005, 04:07 AM	#40
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,759	I finally watched it! And you know what? I have to agree with Mecha in some points. Of course it was totally sweet to see our favourite characters back in action (Cloud, Sephiroth and Vincent were so badass, it wasn't even funny) but I'm really surprised that people like Anarky and Peanut who didn't like/play the game actually enjoyed it. Because as far as story is concerned (if there even was any) this movie was a major bummer. FFVII was famous for one of the best storys in video game history and "Advent Children" was basically two hours of fight scenes, fight scenes and even more fight scenes. Oh and Cait Sith should die a horrible death. Bottom line: To me this movie is two hours of fanboy service. Hence I loved it. I can easily see how someone who didn't play the game could dislike it though. __________________ Make ****, not kill!