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Old 12-03-2005, 09:23 PM   #61
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That was certainly an entertaining episode, though Gen stole the show when he got his new clothes.

Listening to Leo talk to Usagi brought a different perspective to him now. We all knew what he was feeling, but hearing him actually express it... I don't know, he sounds like Anakin from Episode III. Well, without the darker path part... though I wonder what Leo would do if someone like Bishop offered him the ability to better protect his family.

As far as the Foot building, perhaps Mikey noticed it during the tour and distracted Leo so he wouldn't notice.

And as a man who loves his comics, I feel a great swell of pity for Mikey.
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Old 12-03-2005, 10:31 PM   #62
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And as a man who loves his comics, I feel a great swell of pity for Mikey.
I feel the same- if I lost my entire Transformers collection,TMNT and Justice League.....I'd cry.I'd beyond cry.I'd go afte that dude with an axe
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Old 12-03-2005, 10:46 PM   #63
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I was technically right about the villian. It was sent by Hemi (sp?). Albeit, Mikey made a good point in his opening speech, but at the same time, he didn't. It shows that he's thinking more than he used to, but that now he's also still as immature as he used to be in some ways. That speech was a reflective point.

About the foot headquarters: Didn't Donny say he was going to fry the tech in the building so that the foot could never use it again? If Karai is using it for her own foot HQ, then that means they have definately gone and done some "re-teching." Personally, I don't know why Karai has it in for the turtles, she did after all she that her "father" was lying to her the whole time! Blinded by love, I guess
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Old 12-03-2005, 10:47 PM   #64
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Actually, once my grandmothers ((they both life with me)) decided to clean up and one of them threw away my entire Batgirl collection ((barbara gordon + oracle)) and i beyond freaked out. But it's ok cause like Mikey i just bounce right back
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Old 12-03-2005, 10:54 PM   #65
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I have one thing to say about this episode, first-off... I AM NOT A MONKEY!

I missed half this episode. Because I am stupid. I'm still not a monkey. Thanks, Rhane, for recapping Mikey's two cents on Leo.

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As far as Splinter is concerned... I'm glad to see he sent for Usagi, in the hopes that his friendship with Leo would help add weight to his words. I get the impression that Splinter is giving Leo all the chances he can to fix himself before intervening.
Odd because I took it the opposite way from (it seems) everyone else. The end of this ep left me with the feeling that the whole family has been trying to help Leo past whatever is bugging him, and finally Splinter turned to Usagi (but I dunno, I didn't see the beginning). I felt bad for Usagi when he gave that last forlorn look at Leo, but I think it will turn out that his efforts were not entirely in vain.

I had the same theory about the fart jokes as Fledermaus and Ben. I don't think they're funny at all, but it doesn't matter 'cause they're freaking symbolic! LOL

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I applaud the storyboarder. Excellent, excellent way to tell the story through the camera.
The "camerawork" was SO GOOD. I was flippin' out man! I absolutely LOVE that stuff. For example, just the little shot of the guy brushing his teeth with Mike outside the window. It indicated the early hour of the morning and reinforced the fact that it really is really bad for them to be out in broad daylight vs darkness. The angle of the view, the "lighting", the length of the shot, and the natural timing of the guy's movement's along with Mikey's were perfect. The shot was just thrown in there as if to flaunt, "yeah baby, we're THAT good"... genius!

Sometimes I can't believe this is "Just A Saturday Morning Cartoon". A lot of pride went into this ep. There are more examples I can think of just from the half of the show that I got to see... *kicks rocks*

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I see that if the "Leo goes to Japan" is actually an arc within an arc, it will be like Gargoyles' "Avalon Saga." Hopefully it'll keep us going back to the New York Clan and then back to Leo more often though. I missed Brooklyn, Hudson, Lex, and Broadway...and I know i'd miss the other 3 turtle boys.
I felt the same way about the Avalon saga. It made me feel homesick on behalf of the characters stuck wandering the mists. I like Leo, but I don't want to miss the others. April too. Where's our homegirl?

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the ep should be a fun one..

i read the synopsis...it's ALWAYS leo as usual...
No disrespect but...Duh! Cause he is the most popular, I thought that was pretty obvious by now.
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Too much of a good thing results in a bellyache.
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Old 12-03-2005, 10:58 PM   #66
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I was technically right about the villian. It was sent by Hemi (sp?). Albeit, Mikey made a good point in his opening speech, but at the same time, he didn't. It shows that he's thinking more than he used to, but that now he's also still as immature as he used to be in some ways. That speech was a reflective point.

About the foot headquarters: Didn't Donny say he was going to fry the tech in the building so that the foot could never use it again? If Karai is using it for her own foot HQ, then that means they have definately gone and done some "re-teching." Personally, I don't know why Karai has it in for the turtles, she did after all she that her "father" was lying to her the whole time! Blinded by love, I guess
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Old 12-03-2005, 11:09 PM   #67
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BEST EPISODE EVER!!! And I have to agree with everyone else here, Gen-San stole the show. What had me floored...well okay, ROLLING on the floor laughing (since I was sitting on the floor and listening to it with a pair of headphones on) was the *wink wink, nudge nudge* of Gen-San in Rocksteady's clothes!

All this time I was slacking off from writing on my paper (which I know Usagi will whap me for it later.... ) and I got the insperation to write a fiction tidbit.

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Old 12-03-2005, 11:36 PM   #68
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This episode was so great, the best so far this season in my opinion. There was just so much to love about it! I woulda posted earlier, but I have so much to type that I would've been late for work!

The very beginning was great, Mikey's line about Leo being so responsible so the others could do what they wanted was so true. But you'd think if Mike realized that, he'd suggest doing something to change it, being a caring little brother. Then again, there's only so much you can fit into a 30 minute cartoon. Ah well. That part was very cute ^^

I totally went psycho fangirl as soon as Usagi showed up. I swear I wanted to glomp him every time he was on screen. His expression right after he stepped through the portal was ESPECIALLY cute. I loved it. And Gen calling Casey a monkey... *snickers*

Casey: I'm not a monkey!
Goku: I've been saying that for 500 years...

^-- Anyone else watch Saiyuki? Everyone in that series likes to call Goku 'Saru' or Bakazaru (Stupid Monkey). I wouldn't wanna see him meet Gen. XD

I feel ashamed as a fan that it took me two times watching the eppy to realize Gen was wearing the same outfit as Rocksteady. Woe is me. T_T

While the writers got 'saru' right, Kojima (and I think Hebi too) both refered to Leo as a 'kome'. Kome means rice...like, uncooked still growing rice. They got it right in "The Real World" episodes, pronouncing turtle-- Kame correctly. Hmm o.O

And about the fight with Kojima... Where the HELL did Donnie go? He wasn't hurt, yet he disappeared through most of it. I would've understood if he went to help Raph and Mikey, but he was apparently on another rooftop. Did his bo get knocked over the edge? o.O I was seriously confused there.

I also found it strange that Gen took Mikey's comics...First question. Where the HECK did he hide them?! Second...can he read English? I wouldn't think he'd be able to. I mean, Kojima's scroll was written in Kanji and Hiragana, so I'd assume that's the normal written language in their world. ...I'm just hurting my head now, so I'll stop. Maybe Gen just likes the pictures! ^^ Hopefully Gen and Usagi will make another visit soon. I love the two of them! <3

Next week's eppy just looks silly...I wonder if Splinter is gonna send Leo off to Japan? Man he looked hawt in that Indiana Jones getup. *fangirl whistle*

Okay, I'm done for now, but I'm sure I'll think of more to add later. ^^
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Old 12-03-2005, 11:39 PM   #69
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Ok...more to post....

1. I see that if the "Leo goes to Japan" is actually an arc within an arc, it will be like Gargoyles' "Avalon Saga." Hopefully it'll keep us going back to the New York Clan and then back to Leo more often though. I missed Brooklyn, Hudson, Lex, and Broadway...and I know i'd miss the other 3 turtle boys.

2. Maybe Karai's Foot Building isn't in New York....but rather in say....JAPAN! I'm not saying it's true, but think about it...Leo confronts Karai in the country that's, as he said "the birth of Ninjetsu...of Bushido!" Do we have any proof that the New Foot HQ is New York or Toyko?
Well Aska beat me to it but basically yeah I can't picture Hun going to Japan for ANY reason actually to visit Karai. Except maybe for a little wine, a little dance, a little...

But I remember the pan up on the city. That was New York.

Oh and you mentioned Gargoyles? Can I be your friend?

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(turn on your Japanese encoding if you have it) Anyway, yes, "saru", 猿, means "monkey". At least they research their Japanese, even if they don't research their turtles. Incidentally, "yamasaru", 山猿, literally, "mountain monkey", means "boorish" or "bumpkin".
And you know what Aska? I knew you would. That's why I mentioned it.
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:00 AM   #70
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great episode 8 out of 10

Wow this episode was soooooo much fun! Omg hehe I think this will go down as one of my all time favorites because of one thing in general GEN DRESSED AS ROCKSTEADY!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh that set me over the edge I loved it and that warthog guy hahah so funny to have a rhino and a warthog in the same episode *wink wink*...what was his name again and is he a regular Usagi character as well.....
I think the story was a bit strange I think they kind of threw the bad guy in because kids would probably have thought the tmnt just running around the city after Gen would be boring but I was fine with just that....mind you I didn't mind the warthog guy it just seemed sort of out of place....
This episode seemed allot like the old show it was rather cool I'm also loving how much Casey Jones is being used in this new show.....I'm missing April though...and I'm Surprised splinter didn't come along....
I also hope we see more of Usagi cause he's really sweet and cute I really like him more then I did in the old show....I don't think we've seen the last of Gen or Usagi BTW not by a long shot cause man I have this feeling Mikeys gonna try and figure out how to go there cause if I was him I'd be super ticket that Gen Stole my comic books GGRR!
Poor Splinter he's so worried about Leonardo......he's being a brat now though...I'm glad Usagi just walked away he's the real honorable character in this show along with Splinter.....I think Splinters fed up....he's going to do something soon to Leonardo to show him his actions are not good and there is no reason to be hating himself so much that's over something in the past....to let go and live his life. Something big is going to go down soon in this story I can feel it!
Once again though GEN AS ROCKSTEADY OMG BLEW ME AWAY BEST MOMENT EVER!!!!!!!
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Old 12-04-2005, 10:28 AM   #71
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AWESOME EP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gennosuke is a crack up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wannabe rocksteady Rockosuke! hehe

totally loved it. good ep. i knew it was hebi somehow involved with the assassin

great Leo Usagi stuff...i love usagi, he needs his own show

on another note...there is no way in hell they are 15 anymore...they gotta be up to 18 by now cause they're ten time more mature now. esp with leo going off on his own next ep...they're not kids anymore.
almsot time to drop the teenage from the title....even MIKEY is acting a little more mature!!!
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Old 12-04-2005, 10:33 AM   #72
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I just loved how they made that Pirates of the Carribean reference. Did anyone else catch it? Mikey refers to him and the other turtles as the "Tortuga Brothers".

SWEET! Any other movie ref's in this one?
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Old 12-04-2005, 11:35 AM   #73
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Great episode, And nice seeing a homage to the original series with Gen dressed kind of like Rocksteady.
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Maybe gen saw a comicbook buyers guide and saw how much Mikey's books would go for and sold them.
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Old 12-04-2005, 01:25 PM   #75
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on another note...there is no way in hell they are 15 anymore...they gotta be up to 18 by now cause they're ten time more mature now. esp with leo going off on his own next ep...they're not kids anymore.
almsot time to drop the teenage from the title....even MIKEY is acting a little more mature!!!
The end of the ep left me wondering about that... something about Leo's attitude. I was thinking maybe 17. Think they're aging "real-time" in this series?
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I think so. It's only natural.

But then again, they could be just 16.
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While the writers got 'saru' right, Kojima (and I think Hebi too) both refered to Leo as a 'kome'. Kome means rice...like, uncooked still growing rice. They got it right in "The Real World" episodes, pronouncing turtle-- Kame correctly. Hmm o.O
Yeah, I noticed that... I didn't know it meant "rice", but I knew it sure didn't sound much like 'kame'. Could be the voice actor. It struck me that his accent sort of changed a little in the seperate scenes, so perhaps he just hadn't found the correct pronounciation yet (y'know, tried to imagine how the character would say 'kame', and overdid the accent). Hebi didn't use the word.

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And about the fight with Kojima... Where the HELL did Donnie go? He wasn't hurt, yet he disappeared through most of it. I would've understood if he went to help Raph and Mikey, but he was apparently on another rooftop. Did his bo get knocked over the edge? o.O I was seriously confused there.
Er... could be a storyboard error, or a small establishing shot or two cut for time.

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also found it strange that Gen took Mikey's comics...First question. Where the HECK did he hide them?! Second...can he read English? I wouldn't think he'd be able to.
Hmm... good point! Maybe he does just like the pictures. Or thought he could sell them for a good price as some kind of novelty back home. :p

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Don't you go there... :p

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LOL, with the sun rising. Can't help but think about Gargoyles when I see the sun rising or setting in Manhattan.

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I'm surprised at how much they come up around here. I thought of the Avalon arc, but I hope he's not gone that long. That was a little depressing.

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I figured... :p Consider me manipulated.

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on another note...there is no way in hell they are 15 anymore...they gotta be up to 18 by now cause they're ten time more mature now. esp with leo going off on his own next ep...they're not kids anymore.
almsot time to drop the teenage from the title....even MIKEY is acting a little more mature!!!
My personal theory is that they're seventeen... aging in real time, since it's been two years since the show debuted.

Oh. Iris already said that, sorry.
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I always thought they started at 15 and mystically are now only 16 ((or 17)). And on the gargoyles stuff, when i saw the sunglasses at night, my mind went right to Brooklyn back in temptations + Awakening.
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A few interesting things that came to mind after letting the episode settle in...

At the beginning of the episode, we see Leonardo training BLINDFOLDED. Needless to say, he's insanely good. Yet, when, in the heat of battle, he gets blinded.... he is useless! Now, I think there is somesignificance to this, since Leo was definitely training blindfolded at the beginning. I don't know. Any ideas?

Secondly, what stayed with me longest, what struck me as strongest in this episode was what Mikey said--or rather, the feeling it produced. Michelangelo had a tinge of remorse in his voice, and the feeling I got was: much as it appears, this situation isn't just about Leo accepting what he can't change. It's about the rest of them, too, holding onto their own little distractions. Of course it's one thing to be aware that you can't always expect the responsible one to be there for you--it's another thing ot take initiative. So perhaps the situation might have to force them to take initiative. Sometimes the way people get responsible is to live on their own, without any responsible "elder" peering over their shoulder 24-7. Therefore, perhaps it would be better for everyone if Leo took a little retreat to Japan. There, he can go on his solo spiritual journey, and the others will have to learn to cope without his leadership.

So, for all of us itching for character dev in the others--we may be getting our wish.

Bon voyage, Leonardo!
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I always thought they started at 15 and mystically are now only 16 ((or 17)). And on the gargoyles stuff, when i saw the sunglasses at night, my mind went right to Brooklyn back in temptations + Awakening.
Brooklyn was always the best.
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